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rarkorn
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[2007-08-01 16:47:02 +0000 UTC]
"a real life art person"
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As I have said, it wasn't April Fool's day when I posted that message. I live in the UK so at the time it was 1:00am 2nd April.
P.S. I replied here because PK blocked me. Most likely because she thinks I'm a troll, or an ego maniac.
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And as I said, nobody cares what time you posted the message. PK doesn't live in your timezone. I'm not surprised that she blocked you, anyway, considering the fuss you made over an obvious joke.
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But I live in my time zone so naturally I wouldn't apply the idea of it being April Fool's day the same way she didn't apply it to me.
I wasn't really making a fuss, I just think its rude not to try and reply to people, especially since people were assuming I had a problem with her art, when it was such a drastic alteration in her group that bothered me.
Actually, I've never been good with jokes, because people used it as a get out of trouble trick so they could get away with tormenting me so, not good at dealing with jokes personally, so naturally jokes somewhat escape me.
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The picture you commented on was still uploaded on April 1st in your timezone, you know, so it's hardly anybody else's fault that you were simply late to the party. You wouldn't complain about a Christmas themed picture if you happened to see it for the first time in July, would you?
But honestly, though, what amazes me is that you wouldn't just automatically assume that a radical change like this announced in such close proximity to the one day where people are expecting pranks and jokes was actually a serious update do the story. Did you just forget what time of year it was?
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True, but a Christmas themed picture would be somewhat more obvious. More's the proof that PK did a great joke by the fact that I fell for it completely. I've also encountered rather radical changes, like my own brother who was homophobic, until I came out the closet. So seeing other people do such things, isn't a shocking concept to me.
I had 237 messages to go through, I don't usually look at the upload date.
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I still don't see how you wouldn't be skeptical or suspicious of anything in your inbox on or immediately after April 1st.
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I've never been good at understanding jokes. Life experience with people joking isn't always funny. There have even been news reports of deaths occurring because of a joke, so me not being good at getting them shouldn't be too surprising.
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When I asked my question it was the 2nd to me. I asked and PK lied as an answer.
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But it was April 1st just a couple hours before that.
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I asked and I got a joke answer. She could have sent me a PM, but in hindsight so could I. So your point really is moot.
Might I ask, what if I had Aspergers Syndrome? That condition makes it fairly hard for someone to understand emotions so what I say upsetting someone wouldn't really have dawned on me. Everyone actually reaction, could have been rather damaging for me if that's the case wouldn't you say?
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If you're talking about the shit you got for your comment on criticism, I'd say you really had it coming. There's a difference between helpful criticism and just plain rudeness over a prank that you didn't like. I don't see why you'd be surprised that you got a joke answer in this situation, either. PK probably assumed that your comment was also meant to be a joke, considering what day it was and the piece you commented on.
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Again its a rather moot point. You've also not answered my question.
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There's nothing moot about the fact that you took the most obvious joke in the world way too seriously.
Anyway, I didn't address your question because I don't really approve of using a medical condition as an excuse when you don't actually have the condition in question. That's not something to joke about even on April Fool's Day.
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Actually I'd say the "Chicken crossed the road" joke is more obvious as a hint to life after death than PK's joke since organization that are financially structured do radical changes. just look at EA, they went quite radically from a group that cared about people to a group that cared about money.
You evidence that I don't is? You're making quite a quick jump to conclusion based off of a conversation we've had where you've rather instantly labelled me as a idiot when you can't even name something rather basic about me, like my favourite colour.
To clarify though, I don't have Aspergers Syndrome. I asked because your instant objection towards me is a concerning throught since, you've made such a negative conclusion about someone you don't actually know that much about. In essence I asked because its comes across you'd object against someone's expression of their opinion, regardless of the consequences.
Also, I agree it isn't something to make a joke about, I wasn't attempting to (yet another random stab in the dark assumption you've made, about a complete stranger). I've actually heard enough jokes on April Fool's day to put me off the holiday. 37 jokes about rape, 16 about child molestation, and 4 about how funny it is to hear a woman scream when she's being beaten. I not being in the mood for another childish joke, is rather understandable wouldn't you say? Unless you accepting that hearing people make such jokes, then being told you're overreacting by many other individuals because its a joke is a perfectly fine and normal thing to go through.
Also, i think its my turn to make an assumption about you. I believe you assume I'm after sympathy, but I'm not. All I'm asking is for the rather basic human understanding that people are being incapable of expressing, because I didn't get a joke.
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You can't possibly tell me that such a radical change in the group as well as the attitude and mannerisms of the people responsible announced on April Fool's Day wasn't an obvious joke.
Anyway, I base my evidence off of the fact that you haven't exhibited a lot of typical behavior of a person with the condition in question and you brought it into the conversation by saying "what if" and acting as if it were a hypothetical situation. It's rather obvious when people are making things up in order to change the subject somehow.
Also, I wouldn't say that you're getting a lack of "basic human understanding" simply because you didn't get a joke. I'm fairly certain that everybody who showed distaste toward you and your opinions was acting that way because they didn't approve of how you handled the situation, acting rudely and trying to make up excuses or justify your actions by bringing up hypothetical medical conditions or threats of self harm, all of which are unacceptable to joke about or use as a means of deterring ill will.
But seriously, though, I would imagine that if anybody labels you as an idiot, it's because you took a gigantic joke seriously and got upset about it so close to April Fool's Day. There are no excuses for that kind of slip up.
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Having a teaching make a joke about your cousin after she's been murdered might be a good reason. To clarify that isn't hypothetical, its a factual event that occurred.
The cousin in question was raped, sliced up and her head hasn't been found.
When a teacher makes a joke about that and everyone tells you to get over yourself for getting emotional, you tend not to be able to take a joke. This sort of event occurred to me on a daily basis with little to know days of peace, not even at home as my brother found it funny to tease me (even after his friends told him he was taking it too far). I was also a rather emotional child.
All I actually did though was reply with my opinion, not really defending myself. And since I have performed self harm upon myself in the past it isn't a hypothetical, or a joke. Also even if I were the type to attempt to solidify my correctness, in a matter it actually depends on how far I go. There is the possibility that I have a large enough ego to attempt suicide just to put you in your place.
You seem to have forgotten that there are real people on these accounts, that are going through real life issues and we aren't all eager to plaster them all over the internet. I don't get jokes, and if you can't grasp that it makes you more a fool than I.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're trying to use unfortunate events and threaten suicide just to get back at me for disagreeing with you. This is why people are hating on you. You're trivializing horrible tragedies (and possibly even just making it all up and lying about it for all I know) for your own benefit. None of this would be happening right now if you would simply admit to making a really stupid mistake instead of just trying to dance around the point in the hopes that the person you're talking to will simply forget what the conversation is about.
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You know you're being quite arrogant considering that I've already sent PK an apology in private, since you and several others have actually seemingly ganged up on me in an attempt to what can only be described as bullying. That's in fact why the apology was private, since I'm concerned that too many of you will hop onto the "He's lying" bandwagon and attempt to throw it into a rather large drama storm once again. Especially since I do have traits and factors in my life that make me socially awkward to the point I do some rather stupid things at times. Most people have the decency to actually grasp that they and I aren't on social term to the point they can understand why I'm like that, most likely doing so in private and not allowing themselves to be what can only be described as attempted murderers. SOme will say that's a rather dramatic response but when you've heard life stories of 12 year old doing themselves in because of attacks like your's there's nothing else I can call you.
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You do realize that you're the one who came to my page and chose to have this conversation, right?
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Yes, but my aim was to attempt to correct an assumption you've made about me which is something that makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as that's where all my negative experiences usually start. Oddly enough in those cases it had more to do with me being seen as smart not dumb.
I apologize if I come across as a bit emotional, my defence mechanism is actually to tell people more about me not less. Its why I'm not very sociable on here or anywhere for that matter. I'm attempting to deal with it, unsuccessfully as you may have noticed.
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If your aim was to make yourself seem smarter, you kind of ruined that chance when you made that first mistake and misunderstood the joke because you missed the holiday. You could easily have made yourself seem wiser, however, had you simply admitted to your mistake and apologized for your initial rude comment. Right now, you're just sort of making yourself seem obnoxious.
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I never denied that my point could be stupid, but it was an opinion and therefore to someone its bound to be stupid.
I fell like our conversations it like this: [link]
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There's a difference between acknowledging that people might have different opinions about your own opinion and actually owning up to a mistake. Quit trying to change the subject.
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As I've said, I've already sent my apology to PK but your too egotistical to accept that. If you disagree with my opinion that's fine, it doesn't mean you have to be so aggressively against me.
Also the image was merely something I compare our conversation to. I'm the Iceberg and your Titanic. You've seen a layer of me and made an assumption. You seem to be of the persuasion that can't have any friends that have a difference of opinion, since you've already decided to treat me like a second class citizen.
Also I should point out, I've actually very bad at making my point come across, so if my opinions seem harsh, then its usually because no-one ever discusses such things with me, meaning I've never had the social growth to learn how to present my point without, screwing it up at some point.
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Still no admittance of the actual mistake because you're too busy making up excuses. I'm not making any assumptions here. I'm just calling you out on your bullshit.
Also, if I'm the Titanic and you're the iceburg, then does that mean that you're supposed to be an asshole, as per the joke of that particular image set, or are you referring to the fact that people generally like the Titanic a whole lot more than they like the iceburg? Or perhaps you're trying to spell out some sort of metaphor where the Titanic has a ton of sophisticated history and depth, while the iceburg is just some average, cold chunk of ice just like millions of others like it in the ocean. I suppose all of those things would make sense, really. The only thing that doesn't work about the comparison is that you haven't really damaged me in any way. You're more of an annoying hail than a potentially dangerous iceburg.
Anyway, if you want "social growth", here's a suggestion: quit acting so stubborn. Sending an apology to somebody else doesn't mean anything if you choose to continue the argument here.
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I'm not actually trying to argue. You made a general assumption about me based off of one comment, attempting to correct assumptions is rather normal. Also my depression isn't "bullshit" and I'd appreciate you not treating it as such. If I've somehow offended you I apologize but my original comments were directed at PK and in truth had nothing to do with you.
Just to note I don't think I'll be able to give you an adequate reply for some time as I watched this video: [link]
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I'm pretty sure that the definition of an argument is a disagreement and exchange of views with the intent of persuasion in your own favor. You're trying to argue. You're also trying to distract from the point of the conversation by bringing up a bunch of entirely irrelevant points, which I have labeled as bullshit because of just how irrelevant it is. You're depressed and supposedly had a bad past? Congratulations, I'm exactly the same. I'm taking medication for it, even. But that literally does not matter at all. What matters is that you chose to come to my profile and you're replying to all of my comments entirely of your own free will, and as long as you continue to do so, I'm going to continue to call you out on your flaws.
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How can you call a complete stranger out on anything? The flaw in my opinions, should they have some factual evidence that can disprove them sure, but general opinions like which colour is the best isn't something you can call someone out on, since its what's called a difference of opinion. I believed that PK wasn't joking, what is so hard to grasp about that? Its a flaw I have, and one I'm well aware of that hasn't gotten me into trouble many times. I also am aware of my flaw when it comes to making a point about things, and that I can sometimes go off on a tangent and completely change the subject unintentionally. And yes, i'm gullible, I'm gullible enough to believe someones my friend and then let them walk all over me, and make me feel worthless in every aspect and then still call them a friend. Your own egotism is a flaw you should be aware of though, all you've done really is attempt to belittle a complete stranger because you didn't like what he said. I am of the persuasion that I feel if I didn't comment back when I felt I should that its being rude, even if the individual is being rude to me. The amount of trolls that think they've gotten to me is actually rather sad, since they don't but I keep replying because I feel I'm being rude.
Also I'm sorry for your loss.
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What I'm calling you out on is your poor attitude and your inability to admit to mistakes without making up a ton of excuses as well as your rather abrasive way of handling the entire situation. I'm sorry if I come across as egotistical or if it seems as though I'm trying to belittle you, but that is a rather common side effect of being called out, especially when you've posted so many comments that are just plain insulting to others, like trying to use things such as depression and suicide as a weapon. If you feel like I'm being a little too unfriendly toward you, it's because I don't like what I've seen of you so far. If you have a problem with that, you can easily just walk away and stop participating in the conversation. I can't exactly continue to "belittle" you if you don't give me anything to reply to.
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You do realize though that really all you've done is argue with me about an opinion, when in fact opinions are subjective to each individual, meaning you've in essence wasted your time. If you didn't agree the mature thing would have been "While I respect your right to an opinion, I disagree entirely." which no-one has done. So in essence everyone proved to be somewhat childish.
Heck my response to PK's message, was out of anger because I felt she was dismissing what I've said like I'm an insignificant bug, which isn't something anyone leaves standing.
Really though, everyone has actually misread my original message when it was just an expression of an opinion, something that requires arrogance to take offence to. I've even had to correct you, since you though that I just plain intended to leave the group regardless.It's rather dangerous to let people get those misconceptions about you, not that PK cares since she took a screencap of my comments and put them on her Tumblr, and even after I asked her to take them down because I'd receive death threats she still hasn't. A human life is worthless to her it seems.
Also, just to really try and get you to grasp why I suck when it comes to social interactions, my first friend was only my friend because of my mother. Social growth is required to be done by ones self, and because I've rarely had that experience I'm not doing too well at it.
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Nobody gives a shit about your opinion. We're not discussing what your opinion is. The whole reason anybody's even talking to you about your opinion is because of the atrocious way you expressed it. I don't blame PK for completely dismissing it, whether it was because she thought it was a joke or because she simply did not feel that such rudeness deserved a dignified response. The "death threats" you've supposedly received only came about because you insist on making everything worse with your incredibly disrespectful excuses when you should have just stopped commenting after you realized you made the mistake in the first place. PK had every right to post those comments on her tumblr and you should have thought about the consequences before you made such rude comments on a popular thread where people would have seen it and attacked you for it anyway.
Long story short: stop making excuses and genuinely own up to your mistakes. Nobody's going to have any sympathy for you if you keep blaming everybody else.
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If you don't care about my opinion why bother acknowledging them at all? If you didn't like it you shouldn't have replied to my comment. As I've actually said, I'm not very skilled socially so when I present my opinion I can screw it up. You know how I read PK's comment incorrectly, well people did that to my original one, how much of an idiot does that make them?
Some of the death threats were homophobic, and I;ve tried the police before...they didn't take it seriously and it left a sour taste in my mouth.
How is explaining my mental health, and negative previous experiences disrespectful?
As I've said, I struggle to not reply because it makes me feel like I'm being rude...though maybe rude isn't the right word to describe it. It makes me feel wrong. I'm someone that listens to people a lot and converses with people at great length naturally so, like I've said I find it difficult to shut up.
So inciting people against someone else is okay with you? I view that as morally wrong and I'm sure there's a legal wrong somewhere in there.
I was ready for people to disagree, not for being harassed about an opinion. You do realize opinions are subjective so no matter how much you think I'm wrong, there is in fact no wrong when it comes to an opinion. You can express an opinion badly or incorrectly but that doesn't make it wrong. Also interpreting it as rude can also be subjective.
As I've said I've already sent an email to PK, I don't really owe anything to you like you seem to believe and asking for such is egotistical. You might want to talk to someone about that, as you are at least coming across as such, and it can leave a rather negative opinion of you. Silly to lose potential friends over a misunderstanding really, since even the best of friends have fights.
I wasn't looking for sympathy, just understanding. An understanding that I have the right to my opinion, which you haven't displayed.
I must say you're a very brave person, braver than I really. I couldn't go after someone to point out their flaws like you've done to me, because of the consequences of those actions. Really its the sheer magnitude really. See if I did attempt suicide in the near future(as your comments would act as a catalyst), successful or not you wouldn't only do damage to me. There's my mother, father, 2 brothers, 16 aunts & uncles, 36 cousins, and 2 grandparents that would be emotionally affected. That's just my family and I know there are people in the world with bigger families so I couldn't do it.
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Okay, I'm going to be honest here. I read that first sentence and then decided that your wall of text was not worth reading at all, so I'm going to ignore it and repeat what I said earlier: nobody cares about your opinion. We do not care about what you think of things. All anybody cares about is the fact that you're acting like a total douchebag. End of story.
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Thank you for your time.
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i remember that phrase but hell if i know why i said it
where did that come from even
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I've got no idea, but I quoted it and made variations of it in many tags since.
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how long ago even was that
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Indubitably + dibadib = indibadibly.
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A word with a definition that can be used to fit any situation, similar to the likes of "supercalifragihoweveryouspellit". It's certainly fun to use and less complicated in spelling and pronunciation. Derivatives include: dib, dibs, dibbit, dib'd, dibby, dibdib, dibb, dibba, dibady.
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