WreckitAriel In reply to ??? [2019-05-09 12:37:34 +0000 UTC]

Well...yeah. I mean, it sounds cute back then, and they do have quite a lot in common (outcasts, 'cursed' hands). But I'm not really into shipping now: I'm more focusing on friendships and brotherhoods rather than romance.

(BTW where did you see that I am IceWrecker? Just curious)

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-09 13:03:31 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, I can see some similarities, but that’s also understandable. Romance is good and all, but platonic and family relationships are underrated. I believe you told me that IceWrecker was a self-insert thing you added in Second Chance.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-05-09 13:15:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and to me people often write romance as a 'thing-above-all', if you know what I mean. I find more comfort in other relationships. And also love for me isn't only restricted to romance: you can find love through friends and family and other companies as well.


PS Yeah...completely forgot about that. IceWrecker is my name in a couple of websites out of DA (Discord, FF.net, ToyHouse)...
Yeah...

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-09 14:50:32 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, romance is often treated as better than friendship, which is why I feel like I can’t be close friends with someone who is in a romantic relationship with someone else. I feel that I would be forgotten about by the person who is in a relationship, unless if that person was a family member. Two things I notice about platonic and family relationships is that it’s widely accepted to have them with more than one person at a time, and age differences are less of an issue.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-05-09 16:09:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that's how I see it as well. Romance only focuses on two people at a time, so I think I'll have much more stuff to write if I focused on platonic relationships instead.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-09 19:04:48 +0000 UTC]

[I think my persona would have better luck at finding friends than a boyfriend, depending on the roleplay.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-05-10 01:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah...

Speaking of RPs, you have a Discord?

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-10 03:51:22 +0000 UTC]

[I think I tried to join a WiR RP Discord, but I don’t know if I have my own account there. I’m still pretty new to Discord.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-05-10 04:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Hey, I'm also new to Discord, I literally just set up an account 2 days ago. But you can try.

Also, can I also join in after my exams? I'd really love to be in it.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-10 05:06:40 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, I guess I could look into Discord more when I get the chance. Here's the link. wreckitrp.weebly.com/ I joined, but haven't done much else.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-05-10 06:17:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I heard of this one! Yeah, I'm over the age limit. Will definitely check it out when I have time.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-05-10 06:50:32 +0000 UTC]

[Okay.]

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cartoonygothica In reply to ??? [2019-03-19 09:10:51 +0000 UTC]

[For some reason, I tried to imagine Maybe imitating the scenes from the song, "For the First Time in Forever", from Frozen. I feel like he probably wants a romantic partner, but his busy life makes it difficult.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-19 09:45:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh...okay.

That image of him singing is not gonna leave my head anytime soon. XDXD

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-20 04:59:02 +0000 UTC]

[Do you imagine him to be a good singer, or?]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-20 04:59:59 +0000 UTC]

That I'm not really certain LOL. XD

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-20 05:24:26 +0000 UTC]

[Okay. I've been having ideas involving him and Irene in my head, most of which were inspired by movies or other media I've seen. In one idea, I tried to imagine them cleaning a messy house together, Maybe coming close to getting sick at least once. I feel like he's more likely than Irene to legitimately get nauseous at something really gross.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-20 14:22:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Maybe seems like to be a typical neat freak of sorts, while Irene's just...meh.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-21 05:05:09 +0000 UTC]

[Irene does get meticulous when it comes to doing dishes, cleaning the stove top and microwave, and removing dust and hair from her clothes. Not to mention, she tries to vacuum any hair she sees on the floor and gets pissed when people don't wash their hands properly after using the bathroom or when she gets stains on her clothes. Other than that, though, she doesn't normally do much cleaning, usually leaving it up to her family to take care of it. When Maybe isn't on the verge of vomiting from disgust, he could possibly teach her a few things about cleaning.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-21 05:56:30 +0000 UTC]

Definitely. I don't think Irene is super messy, but in Maybe's POW she's already pretty dirty. I mean, I think he's the guy that polishes his home twice a day. XD

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-21 06:03:51 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, Irene isn't necessarily a neat freak. Some of her habits probably do spread germs, and she doesn't think about cleanliness 24/7. I think Maybe would be like the neat freak guy in this video, and Spamley would be like the messy guy on his messiest days.] www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5qoaZ…

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-21 06:10:19 +0000 UTC]

From what I see, Irene is just the typical example of the normal person, while Maybe and Spamley would each be extreme examples on opposite sides of the spectrum.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-21 06:20:14 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, I even imagined that if the three represented different parts of a cleanliness scale, Spamley would be on the much dirtier and messier end, Maybe on the super squeaky clean end, and Irene somewhere in the middle, somewhat more toward the cleaner side. I would say all three of them could stand to learn something about cleanliness, especially the guys. Also, when Maybe is on the verge of vomiting, Irene could probably learn to both get over her fear of vomit and be more understanding of his discomfort. She might not necessarily freak out, but Irene is so fearful of vomit and the act of vomiting that she has an urge to panic.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-21 06:43:12 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I did not know Irene has a fear of vomiting. Yeah, she would definitely have to try and find a way to get over it in that situation.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-21 06:57:49 +0000 UTC]

[Yep. A second scenario I imagined was Irene encountering Maybe while she and her family are in the process of moving. Inspired by the beginning of Spirited Away, I had in mind for Irene to be unhappy during the moving process with her family, partly because of the stress of moving and partly because of her family's tendency to argue or just banter. At some point, Irene would be wandering alone somewhere while she was exploring with her family. Irene and Maybe are clearly surprised to see each other, and the latter tells the former that she isn't supposed to be here, for some reason. I guess you could say this would be a Spirited Away AU, but I'm struggling to imagine how it would make sense, beyond their chance encounter.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-21 11:11:05 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe, you can make that Irene's game is not fully developed in the Internet yet, and because of that she wasn't supposed to appear. Or maybe, she was not from an online game, but from one that is only on laptop, and so she wasn't supposed to be there.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-22 03:42:15 +0000 UTC]

[I did have in mind for Irene's game to be on her creator's laptop, originally, but decided to make it an online game, instead. The not-fully developed game idea could make sense either way, though. In reality, I haven't even made the game that Irene is from, and when she does appear in a WiR roleplay in the updated verse I created for her, I feel that at most, I would have only a picture of her updated design. She'd be like a character with a backstory, but no environment or controls, if that makes any sense.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-22 04:37:37 +0000 UTC]

That sounds pretty interesting. I've got a few friends who got OCs that were expelled or lost from their game, and were therefore able to develop differently from when they're in the game. I imagine that there may be a place in the Internet for all the undeveloped games, where they're in a closed, isolated community until the game is fully developed and they're able to interact with the Internet beyond.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-22 05:37:49 +0000 UTC]

[And those OCs are for WiR, right? I didn't think of an idea like that, but it could exist. I thought perhaps Irene would become self-aware that she is a creation of her creator and be able to travel in the internet, just from the updated design I hope to have of her in the future, but if I were to go with that logic, then all the versions of her in my drawings would be able to come to life too, which could make things more complicated. I don't know, I think to separate her from previous artwork of her, I could make my updated design of Irene into a gif. Like, if an artwork of a character posted online has any amount of animation on it, that could qualify them to be able to become sentient?]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-22 07:23:53 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they're all from WIR. I think it would be much different to put characters in such a setting in another fandom.

That's a good idea! This could explain why she is tagging with her creator when she's on the Internet.

That's...something I haven't really put much thought into it. I mean, they could, but I think for most of the time they're just here for display. Or maybe her creator just also has a DA account, and posts part of her progress of her game for others to see. That works, right?

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-22 08:37:42 +0000 UTC]

[I thought so. Some characters who weren't created specifically for WiR might have AUs in a WiR verse, though. I know Irene is a multi-verse character, with WiR being one of the fandoms I have verses for. Thanks, I'm glad you think it's a nice idea. I think it might be more logical if artworks that don't have animation in them were mostly for display in their creators' galleries. Just as I do in real life, Irene's creator does, indeed, have an account on this website. The creator may post some artwork related to the game concept at some point, yeah. A third scenario I imagined for Irene and Maybe was another way in which they might meet. Inspired by this scene from Despicable Me 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdLEHZ… , I imagined Irene waiting for an online friend she agreed to meet up with at a major shopping website. She's standing at a fountain, and she notices Maybe walking by. Her eyes widen, and he smiles warmly in her direction. As she turns around, Irene nearly falls into the fountain, but Maybe saves her? Instead of being flirty, though, I can bet Maybe would advise her to be careful. I imagine Maybe being like, "You are Irene?", and Irene would find out that he's the online friend she agreed to meet with.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-22 10:51:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm not a person to create AUs LOL, but I did thought of putting RJ to other universes as well, since I believe, with his mischievous and curious personality he will get out of his verse somehow. XD

Okay, the last thing I definitely didn't had in mind, but it would make an interesting scenario.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-23 02:37:52 +0000 UTC]

[Thanks. The fourth scenario that came to my head was some sort of AU, where Irene and Maybe aren't internet characters and the latter has a more human-like name. I was inspired by a movie called When Marnie Was There. Irene is on vacation with her family and encounters Maybe while struggling with something. The latter, while still having an assistant job and having a polished fashion sense, is rich. Irene, for some reason, has been having dreams about him and is surprised to finally meet him in person. They have a sort of secret friendship, and even though Irene is a bit envious of Maybe's more luxurious lifestyle, Maybe confesses that he felt he had to hide a part of himself, namely his quirkier side. I guess being with Irene is one of the few times he feels comfortable expressing it? Something about a friendship (or even a romance) between a commoner and a rich person interests me.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-23 03:55:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow! That's a lot of scenarios you thought up. Though I kinda like the original Internet ones, though.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-23 04:15:18 +0000 UTC]

[I know, it's a lot to take in, isn't it? Thanks, though. When it comes to roleplaying with canon characters, I try not to mess with established canon too much, unless if I explicitly want an AU. I'm not sure about you, but out of the four scenarios I pitched to you, I feel like the meet-up at the shopping website is the most canon-compliant.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-23 04:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, the meet up can happen on an Internet online, and that works, right??

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-23 04:38:29 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah. The idea is that if and when Irene does have a meet-up with an online friend, it would be at a website, other than the one she comes from. A rule she has when it comes to meeting or making friends is that she shouldn't let them know where she lives, until she has gotten to know and trust them. Even though Maybe doesn't seem like the kind of person who would intentionally harm anyone, Irene doesn't want to take chances.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-23 08:20:12 +0000 UTC]

Definitely, and when combined with the idea where Irene is not supposed to be on the official Internet, this could be a pretty good backstory to why Irene is a bit wary of everything online.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-23 09:00:38 +0000 UTC]

[That could make sense, though I believe she can still be a legitimate character even without a completed game. The rule she has about not letting potential new friends know her exact address yet actually comes from her established backstory, not what actually happened to her on the internet.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-24 01:04:35 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that could also work. I'm curious of what other effect her backstory has to her friendships, though.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-24 02:27:31 +0000 UTC]

[I would say it makes her more... hesitant to get close with people outside the internet. As far as she could remember, Irene has been socially awkward with very limited interests. She struggles to make friends, let alone keeping them. One noticeable portion of Irene's backstory is that she used to be best friends with a girl named Cathy for several years. In the beginning, it seemed they had a lot in common, but Cathy developed other interests and tried to give Irene a makeover at least twice in an attempt to make her "more like other girls". Irene was definitely not a girly girl, but she wasn't an athletic tomboy, either. If anything, she was more of an awkward nerd who was still developing her own style. The friendship changed from being fun to just... feeling more like a chore. Cathy used to yell at (or just shame) her for small things and was frustrated that she was often quiet and "boring". Eventually, when they were both in eighth grade, Cathy decided to end the friendship. It was probably for the best, but even though it happened many years ago in her backstory, this toxic friendship still affects Irene. It's partially because of Cathy's attempts to change Irene into a "normal" girl that Irene is paranoid that everyone sees her as a guy.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-24 13:25:48 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow! Looks like you got a lot hammered down for Irene!!!

That could be a pretty good backstory for Irene, though I don't think of their relationship as toxic, but simply that two people fail to find the same interests together. But that could very well explain why Irene is struggling to make new friends.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-25 02:28:02 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, I guess so, at least for her past. It's natural for friends to develop different interests. The problem was that Cathy didn't seem willing to accept that Irene was slower to develop new interests and that she cared more about schoolwork than social life. There were even times when Irene didn't feel like having friends over, but Cathy took it rather personally. When they used to play computer or video games, Cathy would call Irene an idiot and give her a hard time when she lost. There were even times when Irene was so overwhelmed by Cathy's berating that she broke down in tears. For as long as she could remember, Irene's been rather sensitive.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-25 07:10:04 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay, Cathy turned out to be more problematic than I thought. I think it was good for Irene to break it off, but she should try and move on to make new friends, that's all I'm saying.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-25 07:21:49 +0000 UTC]

[That is true. Irene did try hanging out with other people, but she never managed to really bond with anyone outside school during middle and high school. She practically gave up on making friends in person from that point on, but she somehow managed to make some casual friends in college. After graduating college, Irene had kept in touch with only two of them. She lost touch with most of her college friends because she didn't have much to say to them, other than a hello. Most interactions she had with others was on social media or by texting.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-26 16:24:39 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so Irene went to school? That's...interesting, I mean, there aren't many WIR characters that said they went to school and such...
Anyhoo, that's a sad backstory, but also a reasonable one.

(Sorry for the delay: school got busy.)

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-27 00:41:23 +0000 UTC]

[Yeah, she went to school in her backstory. I don't know how canon WiR characters received their education if they had any. Game characters who didn't attend schools in their backstories could've been home-schooled or just... learned stuff as they lived? As for netizens, they may have been born with some basic knowledge and learned as they lived. I feel that depending on the character, game characters are more likely to have received a formal education (at least in their backstories) than netizens. Yeah, Irene's story isn't exactly a happy one, and she still gets into a funk from time to time. She has even wondered whether anyone would miss her if she was gone.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-27 01:57:02 +0000 UTC]

Well, I assume that knowledge was programmed into their backstories or databases, since they do not age from the day they were coded. But...they could learn things as they got older, that's what I think.

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cartoonygothica In reply to WreckitAriel [2019-03-27 02:24:36 +0000 UTC]

[That is a legitimate possibility. I was going with the logic that the backstories of many game characters span from the day they were born in their universe to the day they were actually created to exist with their game in the real world, so I figured that during that period, some form of education may have been involved.]

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WreckitAriel In reply to cartoonygothica [2019-03-28 15:11:25 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. But I can't help but feel sorry for Irene and her backstory now, though...

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