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LilLadyX
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[2010-05-09 20:50:02 +0000 UTC]
"Cross is comfortable with these."
(United States)
# Statistics
Favourites: 65; Deviations: 0; Watchers: 53
Watching: 44; Pageviews: 30966; Comments Made: 3624; Friends: 44
# Comments
Comments: 620
You people realize she's gone right
shut up no one cares anymore.
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Your comment changes EVERYTHING...as does my comment...and any subsequent response, either for against my comment, changes everything as well.
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seriously, your art is pretty good by itself
stop stealing art and tracing
just do your own art
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Stop stealing art! You can at least do bases, but for the love of Pikachus! Don't just go around stealing other people's drawing that they must have worked hard on and just tracing them in your own style! And BTW, you just got pwned by tumblr!
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LoOk MoThErFuCkEr StEaLiN aRt JuSt AiNt CoOl So YoU nEeD tO mOtHeRfUcKiN sToP iT 
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Dude I'm just letting you know that if you made a new account tumblr will probably find you again and all this will be repeated. So just as a pre-caution, you may or may not want to own up and stop stealing.
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Look at the bright side: You got LOTS of pageviews.
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even though you've obviously fled dA, it's not cool to trace and not giving credit isn't cool, man.
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Having a reference for a drawing is alright but tracing things out is just wrong Lady :/
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Saw you on Tumblr. Stealing and tracing art is shitty, you should be ashamed of yourself!
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Maybe I don't get it, but from this tumblr post I saw, it looks like your art took work too. Yeah, you used poses from other people and didn't always do the best when you changed something, but I don't see how that's bad.
I wanted to see your other stuff, but I understand why it's hidden now. Maybe I'm missing something, I'm not a great artist myself. But you seemed fine to me.
Just credit if you use inspiration, it makes people less likely to be assholes to you.
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she was tracing it from the other stuff, not just using the poses
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It's because she traced other people's art and you have to ask permission, gain permission, and then credit because the artist worked hard on it and she's getting credit for basically re-coulouring and adding hair/horns and playing all the hard work off as her own. And the fact that she's done it repeatedly when original artists and others have tried to get her to stop.
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No, she was literally tracing over them, the lines were in the exact places and everything.
In one piece, she didn't even trace it, she just badly erased the horns (you could see where the hair that should have had lines in it was all smudged away), added some colour and flipped it.
Then stated it was an original piece.
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You know, drawing your OWN art is a lot more fun and LEGAL than stealing someone else's. >:C Stop being an art thief, it's really rude.
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Holy shit, over 16,500 views in one day? Looks like that turned out pretty well for you lol
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Still going on even now are you kidding me jesus christ
Deviantart pretty much takes the award for "Most Likely to Beat 2nd Grade-caliber Drama into the Ground" congratulations
I think you guys really need to better your priorities if you react this way to one person among many tracing art
It's terrible to do and try and claim as your own but it's also nothing that necessitates anyone who wasn't even affected to leave derogatory comments. A lot of you are WAY overreacting and need to pull it back a couple hundred thousand notches.
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My guess is that most people are here because of a misplaced glorification of what they believe to be a "flame war" or something of the like. It's the internet, therefore you have plenty of disgruntled, frustrated, pseudo-intellectuals that want to voice their brimming contempt to seek that validation that they crave. They'll take just about any excuse to do so, and proceed to exceeding measures. I commend your bravery for voicing your opinion towards rationality. Although I agree with your stance whole-heartedly, keep in mind that everyone here's simply pursuing their own arbitrary, perverted sense of justice.
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I don't think I'm particularly better than anyone for getting particularly angry at what some people were saying, honestly! But, I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way, though. People whose art was actually stolen from this user thought it was over the top, now what does that say, haha. But, thanks for your reply actually, I had started to feel a little bad even bothering here in the first place and it made me feel a little better.
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i'm particularly a particular particular wow i shouldn't respond to things in the morning when i can't see. Whatever haha
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I'm sorry, I was pretty much done last night but listen:
You're not helping. Some people have probably only recently saw the posts on tumblr about the incident and are here to vent their frustrations on the matter. When you leave your own messages about how they're bad people for their own comments, it's not doing a damn thing except escalating an already bad situation. Just let people vent and they will move on to the next drama.
People get REALLY passionate over art theft, myself included, and a lot of us are also really sick of people coddling art thieves because "oh those poor people getting harassed because -they young and probably didn't realize they were doing anything bad-" which btw is kind of bullshit this girl knew exactly what she was doing when she decided to not admit her wrongness, hid all her deviations in storage, then jumped accounts.
TLDR: Just don't. You're not a better person for posting this. Leave people be and they will move on. Maybe not today or in a few days, but by the end of the week I bet she will be forgotten.
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Not really? For one thing if people actually feel like they're somehow in the right for leaving really terrible comments just because someone did something wrong, then seeing my comment would sooner deter them. At least, I would assume; this isn't exactly the best community for any sort of forum so I may be overestimating people's abilities to acting in A Rational Way
And personally, being "really passionate" about something doesn't make anyone's actions (those that are pretty much debasing the whole situation as an opportunity to HARASS SOMEONE) right or appropriate, and boo on you and anyone else if you don't agree, I'm going to voice my opinion just as much as everyone is treating this like a huge circlejerk sideshow.
Not once did I say that the girl ~didn't know what they were doing,~ in fact, if you didn't superimpose motives for my comments conveniently for your own, you'd see that I conceded to the fact that they (the thief) were wrong but still thought the comments being left here are inappropriate. My comment had nothing to do with whether or not the thief was wrong, but to do with whether or not everyone else is wrong for reacting the way they are. I couldn't care worth piss if I were "better," don't insult me.
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To constitute harassment, one person has to bother another person several times.
One person leaving her a note 100 times is harassment.
One hundred people leaving her one note each is not.
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harassment (either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. -legal dictionary
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The act was neither systematic nor was it done by a party or group as that implies we have any relation or communication with one another. We all are individuals who individually heard about what happened and individually left a single or maybe multiple but not continued messages.
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You mean to tell me that everyone here (or even most people here) including you, discovered this person and what she was doing completely of your own deduction, and not by some one posting it on tumblr or some other form of social media? That is what is commonly referred to as "rallying" and is a form of organizing a collective of people; you know, a "group" or "party." And the messages are continuing and have been for quite past the time that could be considered excessive. I'm not saying comments such as "stop stealing art!" is inherently hurtful, but comments that run along the lines of "HAHAHAHA FAGGOT" can indeed be viewed as harassment, and it's been done plenty of times and is continuing to happen (even though I feel even once is once too many :/) Please tell me that I do not have to explicitly spell out for you the concept that simply because someone has committed a transgression does not warrant people the ethical right to be as cruel as they wish to be.
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blahblahblah I've addressed all this already.
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I reeaaaaaallyyyy do not care to entertain an intricate definition of harassment when the malicious intent needn't be given any sort of definition. You guys seem more apt at trying to sideline the actual point (that, y'know, the comments are inappropriate, which they are?) by trying to spoonfeed me really asinine definitions and really random arguments of syntax. Sorry but no I'm not interested Please Cease and Desist
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Did it occur to you that no one would give a crap if she wasn't stealing other people's hard work to begin with? Is calling someone out for something bad they actually did worse than taking what someone put a lot of time, effort and heart into and trying to make it theirs? Seems to me you're kind of quick to defend the thief and condemn the outraged public.
Just because multiple people want to express their opinions, it doesn't make it harassment. It's not like we met on a separate forum and said "Here's what we're gonna do." It's more like each of us found out way on here and were angry about what we saw and expressed that anger.
Maybe she'll think twice about stealing next time. I don't see what the problem with that is.
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Absolutely no lesson that can be learned from people harassing her cannot be learned by simply keeping it low-key and being patient with someone whose situation you do not ultimately know for certain. Obviously she did something wrong, never once did I say otherwise, so I really don't understand why you're trying to belittle me and act as if I somehow can't comprehend that she was doing something wrong lmfao. That's not the issue. MY issue is why people think it's appropriate to react this way about it, I can't make a relevant fucking comment about the actual thief anymore because I don't know where she is, I don't have any updates on her, what's there to say about HER now? Nothing, there is absolutely nothing to say about her that hasn't been fucking beaten into the ground already.
If all of these people choose to act as a single entity to degrade her, then yes, it is harassment and I am absolutely not entertaining any argument otherwise, so you really need to stop attempting to worm that in there when that doesn't even come close to the actual issue.
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You say I don't know her situation like omg what if she was FORCED to copy artwork. Like hell I don't know her situation. Of course I know her situation. Her situation is that she is an attention seeking thief who saw fit to copy others' hardwork in order to soak up the attention and credit that should be given rightfully to the people who earned it.
For someone who claims to comprehend that this person did something wrong, you sure are defensive of her and what she did. You say "you don't know her situation" like the situation is anything more than what it is. I don't owe her patience. I don't owe her "low-key." Why? Why do I owe her that? You earn those things. Those are things you use when trying to root out a misunderstanding. There is no misunderstanding here.
She's a thief. What does she deserve at that point? Nothing. Particularly not on an art site.
I don't approve of any kind of message calling her names or saying she should kill herself, don't get me wrong. But as far as people coming on here saying "you stole artwork and it pisses me off"? They're just expressing themselves.
So frickin' what? Why can't they do that? If she doesn't like it, she can delete her account. She's already removed her deviations.
The truth is, she's probably loving the drama and attention. So I don't really know why you feel the need to be the white knight, champion of thieving thieves.
And these people aren't acting as a single entity. They're acting as individuals. Each message is made by an individual. So...? I mean you seem like you're just trying to defend the underdog without actually considering that maybe she not only deserves it but is making no effort to defend herself or stop it when she has the power to do so very easily.
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and before you start saying i'm fabricating things my point is strictly "on the offchance you find someone in this situation that are deeply troubled by things and turn to the internet as a form of outlet you will not get anywhere by being abusive"
coming from someone who has actually come from this exact sort of background I think I know what i'm talking about at least a little
not in the realm of ever having stolen art but still otherwise doing some Pretty Dumb Things that I Regret, beyond any point of any sort of logic, na mean??
Just reiterating also that an argument on whether or not this is harassment doesn't solve anything either
OK now I'm really pretty much done with this because of how ridiculously roundabout it's becoming
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It's okay, someday you'll figure shit out.
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Man shut up oh my god you could not sound more trite and unable to actually execute a good argument piss off
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You don't read my arguments anyway, you said you weren't going to. You also said you were going to stop responding several posts ago.
You're just a teenager barking at whatever thing you think will make you seem the most righteous and edgiest. You aren't interesting in an intelligent discussion, you're just interested in getting your argument across and when someone might actually have a good counter, you say "Oh your argument sucks so I'm not even going to read it."
Come back when you're an adult and can argue like one plz.
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No I'm a reasonable person who knows when my points are being sidestepped and fucking pussyfooted by someone who doesn't care enough to actually combat them rather than trying to drag me into an asinine argument of syntax but yeah okay it's because i'm ~a teenager~ lmao
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I've given you reasonable arguments to everything you've said but as long as you understand it's because you're a teenager...
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yes, i understand now, thanks to you, deviantart user reidavidson
i would have never known that all the things i could say or do will be invalid until my 20th birthday roughly one whole year from now
ur a hero (◕‿◕✿)
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It was no trouble really. ;D
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No, no no. My idea that we don't know her situation goes much deeper than whether or not she made a conscious decision to do something. For all any of us know she may have some deep mental issues that we wouldn't know about, and truthfully that's a very real possibility that absolutely doesn't need to be aggravated. I'm not going to even read beyond that because I can tell that you're hardly even reading what I'm saying, and given that sort of disrespect I'm going to just chose to disregard whatever other trite nonsense you've tried to superimpose into my argument to try and supplement your own. It's highly unimpressive and extremely repetitive sorry.
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