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Hey, thanks a lot for the video "How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change - Allan Savory"! 
I wasn't aware of most these things he told me about. I only knew about the wildlife cycle, didn't realize the same occurs to lifestock if you do it right.
I do remember some farmers here in Switzerland which lead their cattle to different meadows during the year, though! Maybe they know it's healthier for the land than to stay in one place, and to have livestock feed the earth with their soil.
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You're welcome! It was very eye-opening to me when I first saw it, as I was still in the mind of "veganism saves the earth", but I didn't yet know that there was land not suited for crops, but well suited for animals!
I'd bet they do! Even it it's not a full understanding I imagine it'd be easy to notice the benefits of moving the herds and not allowing them to overgraze any one particular area.
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Also, everyone is complaining about how much methan the cattle fart, as if 8 billion humans don't fart at all. x) Besides, we do LOT more damage with our pollution in general. Leave the cattle alone. You never hear news about wildlife getting poisoned to death because of too much cattle farting.
Maybe we could still be friends with veganism though, like they could use live-stock but only to make earth fruitful for their fruit and vegetables?
I mean I'm an omnivore (after 10 years of vegetarism), but I also don't feel right eating as many animals and animal products as most people do today.
I hold back on fish too. For example, I've learned that it takes a tuna 8 years to become sexually mature, and they need to swim to certain waters to mate. But on their way, they get caught with literally(!) tons of other bycatch so often, their population (and that of most other fish) has gone back like 70-90% in only few decades, and keeps shrinking. Scientists advice fishers to keep a certain limit so the species can sustain, but the fishers catch at least twice as much. It's super greedy and wrong. That's why I always pay attention to labels which say where food comes from, too.
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The way we farm most cattle is the problem. We clear the rainforest to graze cattle or to grow corn and soybeans for them. The practice of sticking them in crowded feedlots doesn't help either. We should not be farming cattle like that! But with planned grazing we could both save the grasslands and provide food for people! Some backlash I hear on grazed beef is that it'll take much more land than feedlots to meet the demand for it. Well...tough shit as far as I'm concerned. Raise what the land can maintain and what will keep the earth healthy and put up with not having beef as often.
There's definitely still a place for vegans and vegetarians! The grasslands is just an example of land not suited for crops, but suited for grazing. We'll always need food crops as livestock can help there too. I'd love to see more of a movement away from monoculture farming. One of the few good things with COVID-19 is more people are getting back into growing their own crops! I can't have livestock in a 3rd story apartment, but I can grow tomatoes, green beans, and strawberries on my balcony! (something I haven't done yet but plan to do this year if I'm not too late).
I was a vegetarian most of my childhood and a vegan throughout my teenage years. Back to being an omnivore now for the past 11 years. It's a struggle to reduce the number of animal products for sure. My husband insists on his meals being heavy with meat, cheesy, and/or sour cream. We can go through 6-7 eggs a day too. One day I want to have quail, brahma chicken, and rabbits to meet most of these demands but that's many years off.
Oh wow, I didn't know that! I almost never eat fish just due to their price here. The collapse of ocean ecosystems is insane. That entire industry is going to fail within my lifetime for sure.
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I enjoy talking with you! I rarely find people that put much thought into... well, life. Not just their own, but also that around them.
Oh yeah, I've recently gotten a boost into the eco knowledge of the ocean (still at surface knowledge, NO PUN INTENTED, FUCK). I got inspired by a woman named Ocean Ramsey, who wrote the first book about shark social behavior and communication. She free dives with sharks (even white sharks and tiger sharks), and invites people to dive with her under strict guidance of safety divers.
www.instagram.com/oceanramsey/
Up until then, my respect for sharks was mostly just fear-inspired. I didn't actually realize until I learned from her that, all documentaries I ever watched only show sharks attacking and eating, not doing anything else, nor is more explained than just their physical power and stuff.
For example the media says "Sharks go crazy and become aggressive as soon as they smell blood!" while Ocean Ramsey found out "Each shark is specialized in certain prey, and only react to blood of that specific prey!" In her book, she explained that she swam with a great white shark while she was on her period, and the shark didn't react to it. There was also another moment when she was current diving with a friend, and her friend accidentally wounded herself hitting something sharp, while a few reef sharks were right above them. She was bleeding, and the reef sharks did nothing. So the result is: No shark actually considers a human as prey, and will only actually eat you if it's absolutely starving. Because even humans will eat unusual things when they're starving, if not themselves.
I learned so many new things from sharks through that woman, that my fear-inspired respect became something more awe-inspired.
I also stumpled upon extremely wholesome videos of other divers removing hooks from wild sharks and petting them. Sharks that come to them willingly, to get pet and/or get their hooks removed!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4m7Fw…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AI6T…
Ocean Ramsey also noticed how sharks swim PAST surfers without doing anything to them MUCH more often than attack them. Because even a hunting shark is still always careful and checks and double-checks if something is actually prey or not. Most commonly, I hear that if a shark attacks a sufer, it's because they mistake surfers for turtles because the silhouette looks similar.
Ocean Ramsey also explains in her book that sharks are basically like white bloodcels of the ocean that keep the fish population healthy and in good numbers by removing the weak and sick. And by us humans overfishing, and sharks being a common bycatch (hurt and dying fish attract sharks naturally), sharks are disappearing on a quick level. They also get killed and their fins removed for stupid reasons like useless medicine and beauty products, or have their meat eaten as statussymbol especially in Asia.
Over 10 million sharks are killed a year.
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Thank you!
That's awesome! 
Even knowing sharks won't attack, I don't think I could get in the water while on my period! She sounds amazing! Iirc there aren't enough marine biologists and especially not enough of them studying sharks. Seeing how often they get caught as bycatch or because they went after a fishermans hook is why I'll never do ocean fishing. There's far too much waste and it doesn't seem like you can reliably cast to catch your target fish and nothing else.
There's a whole subreddit dedicated to fish intelligence; www.reddit.com/r/FishCognition… . I just love that we're finally starting to realize that fish aren't just fleshy robots relying solely on instinct. We've found in sharks specifically that young sharks experience social learning and there's variable personality traits among different individuals too! Some are more solitary and others have a large friend group. Even just watching my guppies I see so much social behavior among them and differences among them! The young fry which are just millimeters long seem to have rich social lives amongst each other.
We're seriously decimating our oceans. 
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Oh my God, this video makes me cry! ;-; I've seen countless animal factory videos before, then stopped looking for more because it only made me depressed. This is the first one I see about fish, though. I mean, I already say no to any animal factory in general, but wasn't aware of fish factory details until now. I'm happy enough with "just" trout and salmon from good sources for fish food, maybe once a week or month, because I don't want to eat many kinds of fish nor eat them often. Honestly, it makes me upset when people eat much and many kinds of animals, like it's a competition of pride or status or something. Because it's people like that why these mass-factories even exist! Even if you're an omnivore, it's not healthy to eat so much meat and fish! Nobody really benefits from this! >_<
We got labels for fish here which either say "organic, from breeding pond (BIO)" or "from responsible fishing (ASC, MSC)" (both which WWF appoves of, too) but I don't know more than that. I don't know how they're killed, either. I hear that "organic" also means you can't pump them up with meds, including antibiotics. So I don't know if this includes vaccines too? Because in the video, they described the vaccines as protection from the filthy circumstances, but they do it in a wrong and super stressful way for the animals!
Speaking of pumping animals up with antibiotics... in all of these bad-condition "meat-production" places, they always use anti-biotika for "increased efficiency". Which is a REALLY NICE WAY of saying "The efficiency to NOT DIE EARLY in these absolutely horrible conditions, usually death by infection!" Not only is this cruel to animals, the result of using too much antibiotic on these animals is that the bad bacteria starts to evolve and become something that even resists antibiotic.
You see, antibiotic kills both the good and bad bacteria in your guts (hence "anti-biotic"= "fights/kills life" by literal translation, because bacteria are essential for life, your whole body is full of bacteria). That's why you should only use antibiotic in an emergency, and only as long as needed. If you use it too long, you actually make the bad bacteria stronger. Now imagine you breed literally "evolved SUPER bad bacteria" in these animal factories, and eat it, and get infected, and you can't use antibiotic against them anymore.
We also got salmonella because of chicken factories! Salmonella is originally a gut flora of reptiles. Greedy chicken factory boss buys the cheapest chicken food from Africa where wild reptiles shit and piss all over the unsafe fields, imports their gut bacteria, feeds the chicken with it, boom, infected. We eat it, boom, we're infected.
Karma is a good bitch. I just wish we could get punished MUCH HARDER because people STILL don't care about the consequences of our actions!
"Over the years, you kinda get desensitized." This stupid shit sentence in the video hit me like the angriest wave! How can you just throw away our humanity like that??
Remember the gamekeeper I talked about? The one who's very respectful towards animals? He told me he used to work in a pig factory, killing many pigs one after the other by the minute (I forgot how he killed them, I think electric shock or something). And he quit, because he could NOT "get desensitized" over this mass-production and mass-killing of these poor pigs, which were caged their whole life and never saw the sun. I think hunter/gamekeeper is the complete opposite of this. The animal has a free life, and they don't get nearly as mass-killed per second as factory farm animals. It makes sense to me that he became a gamekeeper BECAUSE of his love for animals, as ironic as that sounds.
Oh! Speaking of "never saw the sun"! Another example of horrible "gray area" animal factory is what they sell as "free run chicken". These chicken are in a closed building their entire life. Yes, they can run, they're not in cages, but they're never outside either. And this hide shocking consequences:
There was this teacher which wanted to teach children about where eggs come from, and contacted a farmer who does "free run chicken" about a visit and he said yes. Class arrives, farmer leads them to the building and casually says "I'm gonna open the door now. It's possible that a few chicken drop dead in shock of the sunlight, that's normal." And, exactly that happened. Chicken fled, and some dropped dead. I believe the teacher got a better understanding on what "free run chicken" meant by then; it's still a mental nightmare for the animal. They know nothing but darkness and artificial light, to the point that the shock of seeing the real world out there actually kills them. That's just fucked up.
Always buy organic, or at least "free ranch" chicken if you like eating chicken! The difference between the two is the food they use for chicken and the med/antibiotics rules which I mentioned above. But at least the chicken get to see the sun and sky at all before they die! D: And touch real earth beneath their feet.
Haha sorry, I just really hate animal factories and anything similar to them. I had to rant.
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I remember I used to think farmed fish would be better but I didn't realize just how awfully stocked and treated the farms were. You can't even release farmed fish into the wild as they're so mentally stunted they can't evade predators. Once COVID is over I won't be getting anymore canned fish (there is some ethical canned salmon here but it's pricey). Beyond that it's mostly carp, sunfish, and the occasional saugeye/walleye if they'll take a fake lure (I refuse to use live fish bait), and that's only for the summer/fall when it's nice enough to fish.
Another reason they give antibiotics is because it ups the appetite of the animal and makes them gain weight faster. We're definitely breeding super bacteria with their use in factory farming. Thankfully organic standards here prohibit their use!
I didn't know they got salmonella from an outside source! I thought it was a naturally occurring bacteria that became a problem due to their crammed conditions.
It's sad how few people care about where their meat comes from. I honestly kind of hate the pushiness of vegetarians/vegans for this. Rather than promote ethical buying, they go straight for eliminating meat. Imo, it's better if we "vote with our wallets" by buying ethically raised meat. It still leads to a reduction in meat eating just for the cost ($0.60 per lb for factory farmed chicken vs. ~$3 per lb for organic chicken). Then those organic farms get the income they need to keep operating and factory farms can one day die out.
It's a shame those workers get desensitized to such cruelty.
I buy Vital Farms eggs which are pricey as all hell but I love them because they actually let you see how the chickens are raised. vitalfarms.com/farm/buckskin-a… While not perfect, at least they're outside in a sheltered area and not too crowded together. The first time I bought this brands eggs I was shocked to see a deep orange yolk from the birds being able to forage outside! "Normal" eggs here have very pale yellow yolks from crappy feed. I cannot wait to have a modestly sized chicken flock to get even better quality eggs!
Oh me too! I buy organic animal products as often as I possibly can since they're required to be pasture raised. Not only is it more ethical you get better nutrition in the products too!
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Oh yeah, deep orange yolk is the good shit!
I think I also remember organic meat having a slightly different color (especially red meat) and a better taste than meat from bad places. Really, the financial price is fair for the reward you get. The animal gets treated much better, is killed faster, there is less CO2 because it's not mass production, and the products are delicious. Also the price should motivate you to not buy/eat it every day, which is better for your health too.
Haha, I remember during my time as vegetarian, I gave my meat-loving oldest brother a coupon for his birthday for "1kg total of organic meat" (I'd buy it for him). Which confused him since I was a vegetarian who loved animals, so why would I support meat? I explained to him that I support ORGANIC meat BECAUSE I love animals too. It was also my attempt of introducing him to it. I don't know if it worked, we kinda lost contact over the years. But I know my mother considers buying organic things more in general, like 5-30% of her fridge is organic now. x)
My mom is also one of the people which rarely questions and researches things, ever. She's almost 60 years old now, and only now realizes how much is being produced in China now that the virus is out and forbids the export of most products which worldwide companies import for their main source of income. Like "Wow, China is actually really powerful??" and I'm like "Yes, that's what 'one of the world's most powerful countries' means. China, USA, UK, and Russia are currently pretty much on the top." "But I didn't know they were THAT powerful over the WHOLE WORLD!?" ._.
My dad is the same as far as informing himself goes (the only information he gets is from watching news on TV, he never reads books nor watches detailed documentaries). Yesterday, I told him that 10 million sharks are killed by fishers a year and he immediately said "This number can't be real, if it was real, there would be no sharks anymore." and I said "Well, there are 400 breeds of sharks." "....oh. But it still can't be real, because then the seas would be empty fast." "Yeah. That's, that's the point. Their population is shrinking dramatically since they started overfishing during the last decades. For example, tuna has gone back by 90%." And he kinda changed the topic from there. I also kinda gave up talking about it more. I don't know, I'm not very good at reaching people.
What creeps me out is realizing that, even if you killed 10 million humans a year, it would still take 800 YEARS until we went extinct, because we are 8 fucking BILLION! We are so fucking numerous, we forget what BILLION even means anymore. However, there are NOT 8 billion sharks in the sea in total, that's why killing them by the million is so much worse.
But, shit, all we worry about now a virus that killed about 128'000 people so far. As if we're not doing something that's literally a million to billion times worse than a virus could ever do to ANY other life form around us (remember the daily life inside animal factories, for example).
The great majority of humans are so fucking selfish, I'm ashamed to be part of that species.
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The problem is not enough people want to pay that price for their meat. Just the other day there was a comment chain on Reddit about vegetarians and a highly upvoted comment of "I just $700 on a new smoker you're not changing my mind about meat", thankfully there was a reply telling him he didn't have to, but he could buy ethically raised meat. Hopefully that got him thinking at least. Some greedy fuck will always chose to offer cheaper meat to someone at the cost of the quality of lives of their animals though. That's pretty much how we got factory farming in the first place. I will admit I don't buy organic produce but I just can't afford it alongside organic animal products. I'd rather chose the ones that benefit the animals. Even my ferrets kibble has organic meat!
I knew China was pretty powerful but I wasn't aware of how dangerous and cruel they were until recently! The straining relationship between them and the U.S. has me a bit worried too.
Fuck, every time I hear numbers like that it just makes me think "Wow there are far more of x animal than I thought!" I read an article recently that claims we could restore the oceans by 2050; www.bbc.com/news/science-envir… I have very little hope we'll actually do what's needed to make it happen though.
We're at 8 billion now???? God damn...I missed that. I do understand the fear over COVID-19 just from an economic and healthcare standpoint but there are definitely far worse things out there.
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Oh, btw, I have to add this real quick; Today, I told a close friend about the "If we killed 10 million humans a year, it would take 800 years until we died out because we're 8 billion- and if we don't have babies in that time."
And she was like "No, not 800 years then. You forget that humans don't get 800 years old."
And then we both laughed and I went "AWWW SHIIIIT, NOOO, I was so busy calculating this number correctly for my theory, I completely forgot the fact that humans don't live that long!" xD;
And my friend replied: "But it's still good, because it makes you realize how large the number 8 billion really is! (800 x 10 million) "
So yeah, my theory there has flaws. xD;
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Happy birthday!!! I hope you're able to enjoy it. ^^
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