Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to fromtheashtrees [2015-09-09 18:11:19 +0000 UTC]

Something like "Game of happiness," although that's not why I picked it.

I picked it because "Yukai" is the name of Yugi's son.

Also it's ironic.  I like ironic names (I named my very talkative cat "Shizu.")

Soon as of this comment, hopefully.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to lakers7 [2015-07-30 05:12:24 +0000 UTC]

Ahhhhhhhhhh no, I literally have parts of this half-inked and just-- just life.  :/

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to Donteatacowman [2014-08-06 18:07:26 +0000 UTC]

Aww, thanks!  (Eventually this fancomic will pick back up...)

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to Escria [2014-03-22 01:19:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh, goodness, it's very rare to get asked this, actually!

I have two ongoing webcomics (that are both currently on hiatus, but there's plenty there of both of them and the hiatus is ending soon)

They're both sort of sci-fantasy, although one is sillier than the other: The Law of Purple, which has been going for, huh, nearly nine years now, and Alien Revenant, which is the slightly more serious one (and also a lot easier to jump into at this point just because it's shorter!)

I also have a Tumblr (here ) where I sometimes talk about other projects, and of course my non-fancomic DeviantArt account (linked in most of the pages but also here. )

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Escria In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2014-03-22 19:15:12 +0000 UTC]

I think to read original stuff of an artist is important, too!
I will be definitely continue reading Alien Revenant! Thank you!

Ah I also follow your tumblr right now ^^

Sooo keep up your good work, I'm also looking forward when you
continue your fancomic^^

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to Escria [2014-03-25 06:49:35 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!  It's wonderful to hear about what people read of mine!

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Escria In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2014-03-25 17:57:26 +0000 UTC]

Sure thing!
Have fun with creating more stuff ^v^

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to AssassinHiru [2013-10-21 21:17:46 +0000 UTC]

Nope.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to Elementianhero22 [2013-04-27 22:46:51 +0000 UTC]

We've almost got the internet problem fixed. Then, we'll start updating again.

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Elementianhero22 In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2013-05-02 12:44:00 +0000 UTC]

Yay!

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rmcdonal In reply to rmcdonal [2013-04-18 22:39:21 +0000 UTC]

Sorry about that typo, I meant could you help me?

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to LilyPadPanda [2013-03-15 23:18:12 +0000 UTC]

Hon, trust me, I do not mind any comments no matter how old the deviations are, especially such nice ones. :3

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to YoukoMJ [2012-12-25 20:34:29 +0000 UTC]

XD We're in the midst of moving from one house to another. Our hopes are to be in by the first week of the year; I'll start working on new pages by that point.

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YoukoMJ In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-12-25 20:37:51 +0000 UTC]

Awesome~ Good luck with the move! And happy holidays~

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to rmcdonal [2012-10-08 21:15:15 +0000 UTC]

Only because he's so intensely messed up.

Also, we tend to go by the anime characterizations which are a little softer than Takahashi's (because everyone in the manga is about a quarter more insane than they are in the anime-- that's not a comment on Takahashi, this is pretty typical of anime versus manga relationships.)

That said, the reason you don't see the rivalry gone into much is for several reasons; Kaiba's currently wrestling his business into submission, which has plenty of opportunities for him to have rivals besides Yugi, Game of Dreams isn't generally as much about dueling, and it tends to concentrate more on the significant changes in the characters' lives than on their daily lives (and the rivalry is not a changing factor).

But Kaiba's competitive nature WILL show up by the end of the current storyline... maybe not how you would expect, but it'll show up.

All of THAT said, Word of God only takes you so far. An author's relationship with a character can change, and the way they see that character can change even if they created him themselves. So even though I'd boil down what Takahashi says there as "Kaiba's competitive" and wholeheartedly respond with "No duh, Sensei," if I disagree with Takahashi's view of his own character, then I just plumb disagree with him.

I'm aware that's kind of a controversial statement to make within a fandom like this one, but in a literature class it would be a fact of life. I'm not going to treat Yugioh as anything less than literature just because Yugi is a pop-culture icon that made it onto TV Guide one time.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to kelekiahshadya [2012-10-07 21:21:41 +0000 UTC]

The label "Other People's Nexgen Stuff" on my favorites has to do with characters being children of the original DM cast, not to do with GX, which the Japanese refer to as "Genex" as opposed to "Nexgen." (And anyway, if one were to go actually chronologically, you wouldn't be seeing, say, Yugi's kids as teenagers until 5Ds. The "generation" in "Generation Next" mostly just means "A new crop of kids that are enough younger that the DM cast that they'd never hang out in school.")

Technically, GX and 5Ds never happened as real events in the nexgen stuff you'll find HERE, so that should show how broadly the term can be used.

So Kel still qualifies as a "Nexgen" character, at least for the purposes of that favorites folder.

Also, you're welcome!

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kelekiahshadya In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-10-08 14:59:21 +0000 UTC]

I understand what you mean, and that's cool. Technically, though, Kel is actually older than Yugi and company, so she's still not really a nexgen. But if you'd like to keep her in that folder, that's fine too.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to kelekiahshadya [2012-10-08 20:54:55 +0000 UTC]

But, see, she qualifies because she's Atem's daughter, and he's a member of the original cast.

Really broad definition.

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kelekiahshadya In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-10-08 21:07:34 +0000 UTC]

Well, I suppose as long as you remember that she interacts with Yugi and company, then I have no problems

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to rmcdonal [2012-09-24 19:59:00 +0000 UTC]

... Okay, this, this posting three replies that meant mostly the same thing, this is what I actually was talking about as part of "coming on too strong." You have to allow for the possibility that I got off the computer and went and worked on comics or something, because DeviantArt is the kind of site where you can do that in the middle of a conversation.

Wait, you're talking about Heart of the Underdog ? An underdog is someone who keeps on fighting, no matter what the odds are, regardless of their disadvantages. That's what Joey does.

(Now granted, the word "bonkotsu" translates literally into "ordinary person," but how it's being used in this context is as someone who reaches past his limitations, that is to say, an "underdog.")

People love the underdog. Villains respect the underdog. I can see exactly how Atem would be reminded of Joey. I can also see how he'd be embarrassed about being put on the spot for putting Joey in his deck, a place that represents his heart... and also how Yugi would blush, because Yugi blushes at everything and Joey was kind of fixating on the more potentially negative aspect of the card, that being that the name includes a word that's been used to insult him.

Atem and Yugi didn't mean it that way, but they've just realized that Joey might not agree, and they're embarrassed about it. I tend to think Joey would forgive them once he'd realized that fact, which he would, because he knows Atem and Yugi like his brothers. Invid and I accidentally insult each other and embarrass each other all the time, and even though there might be old wounds and scars back there that these incidents remind us of, we laugh it off and a single apology is all it takes, because we're not just siblings, we're old best friends.

Another interesting aspect to the Grand Prix is that Kaiba invites Joey to participate in it. While you may be feeling Joey gets a little less respect here, think about the fact that during Battle City, Joey, despite having come in second at Duelist Kingdom, was ranked so low that he would have had to buy his own Duel Disk, something he couldn't afford-- and that Kaiba knew perfectly well Joey couldn't afford. Kaiba is even a bit surprised that Joey managed to get one anyway, which means he did it on purpose.

Kaiba inviting Joey to join the Grand Prix means that he finally has acknowledged Joey as a duelist.

All of that said, if someone did something similar to you in order to hurt your feelings, I'm sorry. I've been held up in front of people for the purpose of humiliation plenty of times, and I can agree that it can be pretty painful.

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rmcdonal In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-09-24 20:53:35 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for posting three comments, it wasn't showing up on here, so I was worried the comments weren't getting through. I was afraid this would happen, I just didn't know what would happen. Sorry again.

Anyway, I hear what your saying about the Japanese version, but you have to understand, Kaiba was indeed tearing him down and humiliating him. Note, how through the announcements the announcer was building up all the other ones with clever titles, but then lands on him with things like "underdog," and "ordinary duelist," that is tearing him down in a subtle way. It's seen again throughout the tournament when the announcers were still boosting everyone else, except him. Kaiba did not except him to get very far, and was letting everyone know it (he mumbled his surprise that Joey got as far as he did in the Japanese version). You have to remember, using phrases like "ordinary duelist," or "underdog" to describe someone when the camera or lights are right on them, after giving big titles and nicknames to everyone else is indeed insulting.

And I don't think Joey would be one to forgive and forget so easily. He would not forgive Kaiba or Pegasus in the manga. Also in the manga, he imagines wrapping his hand around Tristain's neck, and gesturing at Kaiba (and maybe even charging at him) in anger in his dream. Keep this in mind with the knowledge that in the manga, that he showed that if he was dueling Kaiba when he was standing above that cliff that he would not have shown the mercy Yugi did, and would not have felt any remorse. You underestimate Joey's darkside.

Another thing is that Joey has difficulty understanding when someone is teasing him, and when someone is being cruel. The fact that the deck represented Atem's heart only reenforces my interpretation, and would only cement Joey's feelings of being betrayed. Also, just because he didn't get angry then, doesn't mean it won't affect things down the road. As I noted, his temper was getting worse by that time, as he actually shoved Tea into a wall (accidentally, but it shows what he can do if he really got mad and physical with her if all she could do is bite someone on the arm). Joey in "Capsule Monsters" when being taken over expressed hostility to Tristain over the "cheap shots."

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to rmcdonal [2012-09-24 21:24:05 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but Yugi/Atem is Joey's best friend. That's still different from Kaiba picking on him (and yes, you're right that Kaiba picked on him the entire time, in front of people, but this is Kaiba. He does that. Joey knows that.) Joey also knows that Yugi has forgiven Joey for bullying him, day after day in class, and that's more meaningful than the hurt might be. Remember, Yugi and Joey became such close friends AFTER Joey had antagonized Yugi, and Joey knows that. There's already been much darker things forgiven between them.

I disagree that the deck being Atem's heart only reinforces your interpretation. He's not saying "you're a bonkotsu in my heart," it's the fact that he's putting Joey in there at all. While I can see quite an interesting fanfic coming out of this, I personally just don't agree with your interpretation of the scene.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to rmcdonal [2012-09-23 22:44:21 +0000 UTC]

Eeeeehhhhh I've read enough of R to know that I'm not all that interested in reading the rest of R. I like the anime filler arcs because they give backstory that I can find interesting or believable (Noa), or because they do character development that the series was originally lacking (Doma). Tenma and Tenma didn't... do much for me. Part of my problem with R in general is, well, Pegasus is 24! How old was he supposed to be when he adopted these kids!? (And yes, no matter WHAT any site tells you, he's 24. He's in the same age group as Mai and Ishizu. He doesn't look the way that Takahashi draws men in their 40's, either- he looks young. I could kind of believe him being in his 30's, but that's still pretty young to be adopting kids the Tenma bros' age.)

Plus I like my Pegasi alive, which is basically a huge reason why I prefer the anime in general.

As for Joey and Kaiba, I more or less went into my opinions on that in their character studies (at the YnY blog, linked above). Basically, they're friends. Not the best of friends, and Joey is more Kaiba's friend than the other way around, and their friendship is built on antagonism, but they don't hate each other. I think Kaiba annoys Joey because he's socially awkward in a way that's frankly rather infuriating.

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rmcdonal In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-09-24 00:19:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the reply, but I wasn't discussing friendship. I was just asking if you agree that beating Kaiba is not that important to Joey, and that he does not obsess over him or the thought of beating him and doesn't constantly think about him. And personally, I regard only R as canon because I think Takahashi had a bit of involvement in that, and it follows the original story line (and I also think it gives Joey more dignity than the anime arcs. Especially in regards to Atem, because that incident in the Grand Prix arc I think was out of character for Atem, as he's the one who believes in Joey more than anyone else in the manga. Plus with my interpretation, I think Joey was hurt pretty bad by that incident. Speaking as someone who had something like that happen to me, I can tell you it is quite painful and humiliating. People pick on Joey too much in the anime.)

Sorry for bugging you all the time, I just respect your opinion. I'll stop coming here for a while.

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Yukai-no-Yugi In reply to rmcdonal [2012-09-24 01:35:36 +0000 UTC]

No, I don't think Joey is obsessed with Kaiba.

Canon is a complicated thing, and I tend to feel that it's also a fairly personal thing. The only real reason a person needs to include something in their canon is whether or not they liked that part.

That said, which incident in the Grand Prix do you mean? (See, he gets picked on so much I can't even be sure what event you're talking about.) We include it in YnY's canon because I like Zigfried (he amuses me), but I have to admit that that entire arc was just sort of this "Okay we're taking a breather now" thing full of, well, quite a lot of silliness. It certainly wasn't as well written as the Doma arc (which itself had a somewhat rocky start.)

Invid disagrees with you on where Joey gets more dignity, although I'm staying out of this one. Invid feels that Takahashi seemed to like inventing new ways for Joey to look dumb.

I'll point out that Joey's character dynamic is that of the "idiot hero" (more a character type than a literal descriptor, since I don't think Joey's an idiot) which puts him in the company of such people as Son Goku, Ash Ketchum, Monkey D. Luffy, and Yusuke Urameshi, all of whom get picked on by their friends usually quite a lot more than they deserve. In the end, everybody picks on Joey too much. Except, oddly, for Pegasus. (I think Pegasus likes and respects Joey for his plucky determination.)

You don't need to apologize, btw, that first time I said you were coming on strong I was mostly kind of overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts before I'd had a chance to consider and respond. I don't mind being asked about my opinion on this sort of thing; I just like to think on my answers.

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rmcdonal In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-09-24 05:43:04 +0000 UTC]

The incident I was referring to was Atem sticking in his deck and playing in that card that reminded everyone of Joey on globally broadcasted TV, and causing everyone to laugh at him. The fact that Atem had to hide in the puzzle and that Yugi couldn't give a straight answer implies to me that that is how they really thought of him (and it was even worse in the Japanese version, as they were basically calling him "a bonkotsu.") And this runs contrary to everything prior to that, except for that bit after Joey's duel with Kaiba where Atem mocked him, which I dislike and don't consider canon for the same reason.

Both incidents seemed so out of character because in most of the manga, Yugi and Atem's belief in, defense of, and support for Joey was almost endless. Interpreting Joey the way I do, he was not one to cry about it, but he probably considered this a stab in the back and was hurt and humiliated, and inwardly furious about it. Especially since Atem was his idol and took it to heart that Atem usually thought highly of him as a duelist. This is really one of the main reasons why my favorite pairing with him is with Ishizu (and in my opinion the most healthy for him). And not because I think or support the idea of Joey being this poor, moping, "woe is me," "I need rescuing" character as is he is constantly portrayed in fanfics (regardless of the pairing), or that he would not be the dominant one in a relationship.

Rather it's because I view him as the exact opposite of that, because I don't think he could ever be anything less than somewhat dominant in a relationship. Like I was saying, he was probably seething inwardly, meaning it's going to have effects on his temper and rage, which by that arc seemed to be getting worse. I have a theory that there is this mental and emotional wall between him and his friends. He doesn't think they believe in him or that they think he can accomplish anything, and he thinks they aren't sympathetic to his problems (though he most certainly doesn't want pity or anyone to do things for him). So I think there's a degree of resentment towards them. And in my view, that's what makes his bond between Yugi, Atem, and Serenity so strong in the manga, because they kind of get around that wall, and he thinks they believe in him, and rarely, if ever, mock him (if they did have any such thoughts, which I at least somewhat doubt, they would not so explicitly show it, and would never do it on purpose), which I see Ishizu of having a stronger chance of doing than anyone else.

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rmcdonal In reply to rmcdonal [2012-09-24 06:01:24 +0000 UTC]

Actually he does at least somewhat want their pity, but more more wants the feeling that they feel for him as much as Rebecca or Yugi, and not just when he's doing something for his sister, and that it would always remain so. Again this doesn't mean he would be anything less than the somewhat (if not mostly) dominant one in a relationship or friendship. I just mean he wants a sympathetic hand on the shoulder and a respectful encouraging word rather than a sympathetic shoulder to cry on. He also wants friends who speak to him in a calm, passive and pleasant manner when he's angry to calm him down, rather than provoke him as everyone does.

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rmcdonal In reply to Yukai-no-Yugi [2012-09-24 04:24:35 +0000 UTC]

The incident I was referring to, was how Atem used that card that reminded everyone of Joey while it was broadcasted on TV, humiliating world wide with even his friends laughing at him (It was twice as harsh in the Japanese version). I felt it was out of character for both Atem and Yugi because through most of the manga, Atem and Yugi's belief in, support for, and defense of Joey was almost endless. The fact that Atem had to hide in the puzzle and Yugi couldn't give a full answer might indicate that's what they really think of Joey (again, a "Bonkotsu" in the Japanese version), which runs in contrary to almost everything prior to that.

Interpreting Joey they way I do he was probably both hurt, and inwardly furious. This is really one of the main reasons why my favorite pairing with him is with Ishizu (and in my opinion the most healthy for him). And not because I think or support the idea of Joey being this poor, moping, "woe is me," "I need rescuing" character as is he is constantly portrayed in fanfics (regardless of the pairing), or that he would not be the dominant one in a relationship.

Rather it's because I view him as the exact opposite of that. Like I was saying, he was probably seething inwardly, meaning it's going to have effects on his temper, which by that arc seemed to be getting worse. I have a theory that there is this mental and emotional wall between him and his friends. He doesn't think they believe in him or that they think he can accomplish anything, and he thinks they aren't sympathetic to his problems. So I think there's a degree of resentment towards them. And in my view, that's what makes his bond between Yugi, Atem, and Serenity so strong, because they kind of get around that wall, which I see Ishizu of having a stronger chance of doing than anyone else.

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