echo63 In reply to LeahyC [2010-05-22 11:09:21 +0000 UTC]

No worries,
Thanks for the comment on the rally pics, its one of the things i Love shooting, walking miles out into the forest, looking for the perfect spot, relaxing, and just firing a few frames as the car slides around the corner.

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LeahyC In reply to echo63 [2010-05-23 09:43:52 +0000 UTC]

Sound like a great day!

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echo63 In reply to AaronBondarenko [2009-11-28 04:19:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

for the V8 supercar stuff (last weekend) i was using a Pair of Canon 1dm2n Bodies, Canon 400mm f2.8LIS lens, Canon 70-200 f2.8LIS Lens, and Canon 1.4 and 2x converters.

the Safari Rally was shot with the same bodies, and Canon 70-200 f2.8LIS, and 16-35 f2.8L Lenses, and Canon 1.4x Converter.


the Older stuff is shot with Varying lenses, mostly a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 with a Sigma 2x Converter.

it doesnt really matter what lens you use, i have seen some awesome shots with really basic gear, although Image Stabilising helps a lot.

Better gear works better though, you dont have to work around its problems
(my first lens was a canon 75-300 that focused really slowly, had to prefocus, and snap the shot as the car came into focus)

Practice really helps too.
I have probably spent 2 weekends a month at the track, for the past three years, so i know where the good spots are, where the best light is at different times of day etc too.

hope this helps

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echo63 In reply to Hateclaw [2009-05-21 13:25:43 +0000 UTC]

thanks

you got some cool stuff in your gallery too (i really like the AK)
wish we could own stuff like that here (even an airsoft one would be fun)

can still collect knives though (50sumthing spyderco's and counting)

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Hateclaw In reply to echo63 [2009-05-21 14:53:47 +0000 UTC]

my ak is a real one, but disarmed, and the ammunition is also disarmed, fired and just headed with a new projectile...
the gun laws in germany are verry hard
i like knives, too

thanks for your comments

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echo63 In reply to noodle3-d [2009-04-27 12:15:21 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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echo63 In reply to Enhancer [2009-03-08 23:16:23 +0000 UTC]

thank you
practice is the only thing separating my work from anyone elses.

i have been shooting motorsport for three years now, getting to as many events as i can, shooting till there is nothing left, or i have no card space left. I am now an image bender/photographic assistant, and go to the track to relax, i treat it like a game of golf, trying to get that one perfect shot, a hole in one.
sometimes i get one, or even three or four (they are the pics that appear here) but i do throw a lot of images away, from the 600 i shot saturday, only 200 meet my standards for sale, but im only really happy with 10 or so.
whenever you look at a photographers work, remember you are only seeing the very best they have (although my gallery goes back a few years and you can see the evolution)

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echo63 In reply to andyrogerson [2008-11-16 02:16:35 +0000 UTC]

i generally use Shutter Priority (TV on canon Sv on nikon)
i generally change shutter speed depending on the lens im using, where im using it, and how steady i am holding the camera, i generally use speeds from 1/30 to 1/400 most of the time i am around the 1/125 - 1/250 range though.

ISO - use whatever iso you need to, yesterday was a arvo/night meet, so i used 100 during the day, 400 as it was getting dark, and 1600/3200 when it was dark

I use a monopod when im shooting, generally just to take the weight of the lens/camera i am using, even a 70-200 gets heavy after an hour or so
I sometimes use a polarising filter, although they eat 1-2 stops of light so they are only really any good in full sun

hope this helps

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andyrogerson In reply to echo63 [2008-11-16 22:31:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much! I was between Program, Shutter priority, and Manual modes. I've found there are no real ISO noise problems on the 450D so I'll probably go for ISO 100 (or if things go cloudy then auto 100-400).

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echo63 In reply to andyrogerson [2008-11-17 01:20:23 +0000 UTC]

no worries, glad i could help

just a few basic rules of thumb

tyre blur looks nice on cars, at minimum, try and keep your shutter speed around the same as the cars speed (1/320 for 300kph etc) also, with longer lenses (200mm + try and keep your shutter speed around the same as your focal length to avoid camera shake (300mm = 1/300 etc)

i know these two seem to be at odds with each other, but the aim is to try and keep your shutter speed low enough to get the wheels/background slightly blurred (or a lot blurred) whilst being able to follow the vehicle and keep the camera steady enough to get sharp images.
i generally start shooting around 1/250 for 10mins of practice/qualifying to get me warmed up, then i start dropping the shutter speed, every 3-5 shots i will have a look, and see how im going, if more than half are to soft to be useable, i wind the shutter speed up a bit, if they are still good, i drop it a little till i find that sweet spot, where i can get good results

one last thing, straight on or 3/4 shots need a higher shutter speed than side on pans, pans work best if you snap the shutter as the car is travelling past you at 90 degrees, much outside that and the front or back start to get blurred


there is some good tutorials on the canon digital forum
Motorsport talk subforum [link]
Motorsports hints tips and tutorials [link]
Motorsports photo sharing section [link]
this forum is a great resource for canon owners, you can pick the most stupid, obscure question, post it on the forum, and they will try and help you.
also try [link] its an aussie motorsport photgraphy forum. we have a few members from around the world, but most of us are in australia. Its a friendly bunch of people who love motorsport and taking photos of it

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andyrogerson In reply to echo63 [2008-11-17 17:17:07 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I heard that to avoid camera shake you have to keep the shutter speed around the same as the focal length (www.photoanswers.co.uk - I have a subscription). I might use a UV filter instead of a polarising filter. Partly because the 450D's colour saturation isn't too astonishing, and partly because of the price.

Thanks again for the tips and links

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echo63 In reply to andyrogerson [2008-11-18 02:40:20 +0000 UTC]

the UV filter doesnt do anything, its just a sacraficial bit of glass, that takes all the dust, impacts, cleaning etc instead of ur lenses front element
its your choice to use one or not, i dont except on my 70-200f2.8
the polarising filter, when used properly decreases the reflections of the car, helps reduce the glare of the windscreen, and also seems to increase the saturation a little bit, it will make the sky bluer than it would otherwise be.

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andyrogerson In reply to echo63 [2008-11-18 15:22:54 +0000 UTC]

I think I would use a UV filter purely for the protection side of it and... can you put filters ontop of filters? If so I would put a UV ontop of a polarizer.

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echo63 In reply to andyrogerson [2008-11-19 02:52:54 +0000 UTC]

the glass and coatings used in lenses are pretty tough so you dont really need a filter, however, it is purely your choice
all the Lenses at work (company lenses) have filters on them to protect them,

the polariser cuts reflection, the same way polarised sunglasses do

you want a Circular polariser though, a linear polariser will affect AF and metering

most people stick the UV filter on the lens, and leave it there, then put the polariser on top when it is needed.
stacking filters can sometimes cause vignetting, especially on ultra wide angle lenses (my sigma 10-20 does if i stack filters)
its not really a problem though, i think it looks nice

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andyrogerson In reply to echo63 [2008-11-19 16:49:10 +0000 UTC]

I do my best do prevent vignetting! Although, I'd rather scratch a filter than the front of the lens! I've also seen how a polarizer can ruin an image by turning the sky into a blue to black gradient ([link] ).

I'll probably end up using just a UV filter if anything. Although the EDC is at least 6 months away!

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echo63 In reply to andyrogerson [2008-11-20 01:13:57 +0000 UTC]

EDC - Euro drift championship ?

if you are shooting motorsport you probably wont have any sky in the image, so the polariser will cut reflections of the cars body and windscreen, giving the image a little more pop

Use the Uv filter, as drifting puts a lot of rubber into the air, i normally find the filter on my 70-200 is covered in rubber dust (the whole reason i have a filter on it)


have fun photographing

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andyrogerson In reply to echo63 [2008-11-20 19:26:38 +0000 UTC]

thanks! wave:

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echo63 In reply to svarci [2008-07-14 10:40:20 +0000 UTC]

no worries, you do great work, and i only favorite stuff that i think is better than mine

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echo63 In reply to jackmcginn [2008-04-02 09:43:43 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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echo63 In reply to boybeck [2008-03-03 01:32:31 +0000 UTC]

no worries, i love your rally stuff

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boybeck In reply to echo63 [2008-03-03 23:49:19 +0000 UTC]

thanks man

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echo63 In reply to echo-63 [2008-03-03 01:31:17 +0000 UTC]

argh - a clone
how did you come up with your username ?

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echo-63 In reply to echo63 [2008-11-24 06:34:19 +0000 UTC]

Aww man, you've got WAY more pageveiws than me! how do you do that?

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echo63 In reply to echo-63 [2008-11-24 07:15:48 +0000 UTC]

been a member nearly a year longer
other than that i have no idea

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echo-63 In reply to echo63 [2008-11-24 07:26:17 +0000 UTC]

well, congratulations anyway.

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echo-63 In reply to echo63 [2008-03-09 10:45:17 +0000 UTC]

just thought it sounded good. though i used to be called echo_62 on an acount somewhere, i froze, so i became echo-63.

by the way, nice signature

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echo63 In reply to MJKooLio [2008-01-18 15:03:16 +0000 UTC]

doing ok so far
just got a new job fixing cameras, rather than using them.

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MJKooLio In reply to echo63 [2008-02-07 14:23:54 +0000 UTC]

where at? enjoying it yash?

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echo63 In reply to MJKooLio [2008-02-08 01:45:26 +0000 UTC]

yea its a great job
its in morley, but im not going to post the companys name up here.

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MJKooLio In reply to echo63 [2008-02-08 05:52:10 +0000 UTC]

no no no thats kool
hope yur well

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echo63 In reply to MJKooLio [2008-02-08 09:09:38 +0000 UTC]

yea still living
Julz thinks she saw you on the news the other night, when heath ledgers parents were coming back from the US

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MJKooLio In reply to echo63 [2008-02-09 02:17:35 +0000 UTC]

yup that was mee, on all 3 major networks.

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