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Anis2704 [2021-01-12 21:13:51 +0000 UTC]
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lonerpx [2019-07-07 16:50:24 +0000 UTC]
If Scott wasn't a prick for sabotaging his team would've won something for a change.
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LordIxis [2014-12-21 17:06:51 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, the Toxic Rats were a complete mess. Yeah, and Starlow in Toadal Drama Island Returns is like Scott in TDRI in the fact that both throw challenges to vote out their own members. In Starlow's case: Toadette. Might I mention I DESPISE Scott?
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1997kid In reply to LordIxis [2014-12-21 18:43:20 +0000 UTC]
I despise Scott too, and he only made it as far because of the switch with Jo. There was no sense of unity with the Rats, and it was really, really boring o watch them disintegrate in every single episode (though it was well deserved).
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SideshowJazz17 [2014-11-17 20:17:03 +0000 UTC]
What I always liked was the dynamics of each team, particularly in TDI and TDWT. The Screaming Gophers had this whole Us vs Them thing going on among the girls, which was good for drama, but on the whole, the Killer Bass felt more like a team. The only issue in the Bass was Courtney always arguing with Duncan, and that was just set up for them becoming a couple, which I thought was a really enjoyable dynamic in the season. Like Bridgette said to Heather in Episode 5 on the idea of sabotaging a team member: "The Killer Bass have more class than that. We're a team."
What I liked about Team Victory in TDWT is that they all seemed friendly and supportive of each other. In spite of all of them leaving very early,they were a great team. The main problem with Team Amazon is just that everyone on that team fights, although that time in the Japan challenge when everyone stormed off was funny because they argued about who went each way when they stormed off. And then Cody and Sierra won their challenge! Finally, Team Chris is Really Really Really Really Hot...I found the team as being one that was cordial on the outside, but having quite a lot of issues bubbling underneath, eg: Noah distrusts Alejandro, Alejandro despises Owen, Izzy doesn't really work with her team. There's all this tension and I think the main issue is that Alejandro, while a good leader, hurts the team dynamic as a group that works together.
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AfricanAsura [2014-10-30 19:47:22 +0000 UTC]
you think you can make this meme into a blank?
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1997kid In reply to AfricanAsura [2014-10-30 21:03:16 +0000 UTC]
I'll do it very soon.
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Sonic2125 [2014-10-29 23:53:04 +0000 UTC]
Team Chris is x4 very hot is one of my favourite teams because they had lot of myΒ top Fav. TD characters (Etc. Tyler, Noah, Owen and izzy)
I also love Team Maskwak because of the diverse characters and their interactions
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GundamSamuraiAkira [2014-10-29 22:58:32 +0000 UTC]
I can seriously get behind naming the Killer Bass as the best team. For all the reasons you listed. Let's face it, the teams were at their finest form in Island.
Can't say much on the TDPI teams, so I'll take your word on those.
I don't know how to feel about either the Hamsters or Vultures. TDAS also made the mistake of making some really idiotic team switches that muddled things greatly, and again killed the whole heroes vs. villains theme which almost instantly became a footnote. They really abused the switches this time around. The only nice thing I can say about them (And the only nice thing I can say about the season) is that they finally broke the Strong Team vs. Weak Team formula that I can't stand. Both sides had their shares of wins and losses, you didn't have one team that won every match and the other so weak to the point where the entire idea of teams became irrelevant.
Team Amazon was formidable. If it hadn't been for the later tensions or Sierra's annoyance, they'd arguably be the best team. Arguably.
Maggots were alright, but this season also abused the team switches. Rats were a disaster, and the ones I did enjoy got booted fast.
Team Chris was alright, but probably did not have the strongest makeup.
Team Victory was a massive disappointment. Great players and likable characters, plagued by a ludicrous losing streak that is lacking in sense or even a point.
What else is there to say about the Killer Grips? Gotta give TDA Courtney credit for at least restoring some life to the team before they disbanded, but how come that wasn't the case so much sooner? This team is a big part of the reason why the season blew because there wasn't really much of a competition going on at all with one team losing every match no matter what they did. This is a competition series the cast is in, teams like this rob it of any real drive or tension.
There's my two cents, I apologize if it's all over the place.
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1997kid In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2014-10-30 00:40:32 +0000 UTC]
Yes, the teams in TDI were one of the best, absolutely. Great balance and chemistry.
The team switches in TDROTI and TDAS just became too damn much, and it was really unnecessary. There is a difference between shaking things up, and trying desperately to throw a twist for no reason other than just to do it. That is the one good thing you can say about TDAS, since that formula just irks everybody. It is so sad that they did not keep it for TDPI. The teams in TDROTI should have been merged in Episode 8. Late merges are one of my biggest pet peeves about the show.
If they got rid of some of those tensions (there was some early on), they could have easily been the strongest team.
The entire point of Team Victory was for a stupid gag that literally no one found remotely funny. Massive disappointment indeed.
The Killer Gripsis just a fail. Literally all the lazy, dumb, or clumsy people are put together, and we just watch them ruin themselves. I will give Courtney that, because it is rightfully true, and it is the one time that their team had any sense of direction. They were definitely one of the biggest flaws in the first half of TDA, and like you said, it took away the suspense of it all.
It is fine.
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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-30 00:56:12 +0000 UTC]
Couldn't have summed it up better myself.
I know, it's getting to be such a tired trend, I hate the team switches. I know they're meant to spice things up, but they become predictable when you make them routine, and a lot of choices either are not taken advantage of or worse, make no sense at all and ultimately contribute nothing to the plot. And now that you can just expect them to happen eventually, now often more than once, they're not really a twist anymore. It's just a tired gag now.
The one and only good thing. There needs to be actual competition for a series like this to work. Works better when you can't be certain who's gonna win and who's gonna lose.
Late merges?
Absolutely. I loved the team and most of its members, and it could've been the greatest team if not for some of the tensions they had. Amazon was greatly enjoyable before things got as heated as they did.
Team Victory is the biggest problem with TDWT's first half. I can't imagine why anyone would find it funny, and I wish the writers would take greater pains to avoid something that is so cliched. For nearly half of a season, the gag is that they're named "Victory", so surely they're always gonna lose.........I get the punchline, but that doesn't mean it's funny.
Exactly. If the Killer Grips were not such a pathetically weak team, TDA might not have been quite as boring as it was. I mean the season has a lot of problems like the beginning of all of the character derailments and some rather unimaginative challenges, but to have one team lose nearly every challenge while one marched on totally uncontested was lazy, anticlimactic and lame. Everything something titled "Action" should not be. You'd think that given that season's reception, easily the least-talked about season today, that the writers and directors would realize that playing up one team as hopelessly weak in the face of another is just something you don't do. That's a lesson to take from the Killer Grips. Courtney did manage to restore some competitive life to that remaining fraction of the season but by then, the season had already taken too many hits to really recover from it.
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1997kid In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2014-10-30 15:56:41 +0000 UTC]
The team switches got ridiculous in ROTI, and it is nothing but a gag that we expect in every season, and a few times a season now. But I ma sure they won't get that message about these annoying and useless team swaps.
Late merges are when the merge start way past the halfway point of the season. So in ROTI and PI, the halfway point is Episode 7, and the merges for both of these seasons are in Episode 9 (5 merge episodes). TDWT had their merge at Episode 19 (8 merge episodes), when their midway point was in Episode 14.
Team Victory is the first half's biggest issue, and it only got more and more ridiculous.
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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-30 22:33:31 +0000 UTC]
I wish they would stop, I hope the complaint has reached their table. These things are just lazy and pointless, and too many of them are just plain stupid. They've added almost nothing to this series. The routine has run its course.
You think those late merges had an inherently negative impact on the pacing of those seasons?
The first half would've been fine if somebody, anybody from Victory made the merge. I don't see why at least one couldn't have. A joke that is dragged out that long just isn't worth it, it's painfully predictable. Commissioning a whole team just for the sake of a joke? That's not how jokes work.
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1997kid In reply to TheBlackHoodedGamer [2014-10-30 00:44:40 +0000 UTC]
I never even noticed that. What a coincidence. To be fair, all of the Grips but Courtney were Gophers, so they were not technically related to one another.
Thank you so much. I could not think of anyone better than the Bass or worse than the Grips either, though when it came to challenge wins, this meme would be listed differently. The Villains made a lot of dumb decisions. Eliminating the easily manipulated Lightning, and put all of the blame on Jo, so you could get rid of her? Not the smartest.
Team Kinosewak really are a joke. Almost all of them were too caught up in their own gimmick to focus on gameplay and the challenge. It is utterly pathetic when it comes down to it. Amy, Samey, Rodney,a nd especially Topher are the biggest examples of this. How in the hell do you have someone who did notcompete in half of their challenges? The Maskwaks are better in every single way, and it was smart to get rid of the deadweights Beardo and Leonard.
Thank you.
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1997kid In reply to TheBlackHoodedGamer [2014-10-30 15:59:41 +0000 UTC]
Scarlett was decent on Kinosewak, and better than most, but she still did not do much herself. It is sad that most did not care, but if you don't care about the competition, you don't deserve to be there long.
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LuigiTheMan5000 In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-30 01:14:14 +0000 UTC]
"The Villains made a lot of dumb decisions" *only lists two*
Getting rid of Lightning so early was dumb yes but getting rid of Jo wasn't that dumb. She's a strategic threat and a physical one. Plus you don't really need a good reason to eliminate a person you personally want gone. That's not how the game works. Heather, while mad about Lightning getting voted off thanks to Jo, she just used it as an excuse to get the others to vote her off too. Plus I'm not sure if you were watching, but she took out one of their own players(Scott).Β
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1997kid In reply to LuigiTheMan5000 [2014-10-30 03:14:52 +0000 UTC]
Well they still made more dumb decisions that the Heroes did, and did not work as well together. Yes, you do need a reason, and preferably a logical and good one to get rid of someone. Whether it is the fact that they are a floater, or that the person is a threat or whatever. Jo was pretty flanderized in the episode to justify her elimination.
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YoshiAndCody [2014-10-29 21:17:32 +0000 UTC]
talent BUT CODY? are you fucking stupid? Episode 3. Cody helped his team win. DumbfuckΒ
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1997kid In reply to YoshiAndCody [2014-10-29 21:53:17 +0000 UTC]
Boo fucking hoo Cody stan. It still does not take away from the many times that he has been nothing close to useful. Get bent, and gtfo my content with your disrespectful ass. Bitch.
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TheDipDap1234 In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-30 12:54:30 +0000 UTC]
Oh god this kid annoys me deeply. For some reason, i'm glad i'm not the only one. He makes me hate Cody even more!
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1997kid In reply to TheDipDap1234 [2014-10-30 15:50:30 +0000 UTC]
He did accomplish that; make me annoyed by Cody even more. Had the nerve to come and start shit on my post with personal insults. A simple block did the job.
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TheDipDap1234 In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-30 16:32:32 +0000 UTC]
Man, and I thought the Mike fans were annoying.
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Du-Loch [2014-10-29 18:58:00 +0000 UTC]
I think Team Victory was my favorite team. I genuinely enjoy every single character, except for Harold. Shame they were the punching bags of the season...
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1997kid In reply to Du-Loch [2014-10-29 19:17:55 +0000 UTC]
I liked them too, and most of the characters are my favourites (except Ezekiel), but yeah, the whole joke of Team Victory was utterly tiring and predictable.
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Konogo [2014-10-29 18:23:00 +0000 UTC]
TDI: Bass vs Gophers. I'll agree Bass was the better team when it came to organization and teamwork mainly because the Gophers had major conflicts that usually all stemmed from Heather
TDA: Gaffers vs Grips. Gaffers were the better team if going by your judgement.Β
TDWT: Amazons vs Chris vs Victory. I personally felt Team Chris was the better team when it came to team work(at least until Duncan came onboard), Victory is right 2nd and Amazons are last due to major issues with Gwen, Courtney and Heather. Plus it didn't help Sierra was stalking Cody.
TDRI: Maggots vs Rats. I'd agree that the Maggots were the more efficient team when it came to cooperation and teamwork. Rats had many problems with the ones you listed out.
TDAS: Hamsters vs Vultures. While it pains to me say it, the Hamsters were probably the better team when it came to really being a team even though the Vultures have much stronger players, since it's a villains team full of villains, the teamwork and cooperation would obviously be lacking.
TDPI: Maskwak vs Kineosewak. Maskwak definitely takes it when it comes to being the better team with teamwork and all despite Sugar's unwillingness to work with Ella. Kineosewak had too many problems for me to even list.
So overall, I agree with most of what you said and at the same time, disagree with some of it as well.
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1997kid In reply to air30002 [2014-10-29 17:50:02 +0000 UTC]
I would actually love to see a teams meme from you.
The Rats were definitely forgettable, and it is so convenient that Scott got switched when he did -_-. Team Victory did win twice, but Chris made those reward challenges. The Grips were lucky they had all of those returns.
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1997kid In reply to AnOptimisticSnarker [2014-10-29 17:11:53 +0000 UTC]
I know. It is really sad to see a show get worse in every single aspect. I honestly think the teams are put in the backburner when it comes to focus on the show. It also does not help when every successor sans TDAS always has a loser team.
The Villains won a challenge more than the Heroes did, but the Heroes are more organized, welcoming, and cooperative than the villains. It is always nice to see an opposite opinion.
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AnOptimisticSnarker In reply to 1997kid [2014-10-29 17:19:02 +0000 UTC]
It really is sad, and the teams should be a major thing seeing how they are teams. I mean, come on! The contestants interact mostly with their teammates. And yeah, the loser team thing is just not appealing. I mean, the Bass were underdogs, but they were never seen as weak, just underdogs.
That is true, and the Villains had no sort of organization. I mean, they were really dysfunctional when it comes down to it. The Heroes had better teamwork and generally got along better. The Bass are still my favorite team though.
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