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Someone isen't that skilled in history ... math or in political science
What we sum up under 'communist goverments' had fit under 'capitalism' and 'fascism' as well as a lot of our actual countrys. I didn't support calling the Russians or Chinese systems communistic, cause they aren't. They abused this label to do ther crimes as well as the US does.
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Communism isnt inherently murderous or immoral unlike nazism, the bourgeois, fascists and (mostly american) liberals want you to equate them in your mind because theyre scared about losing their power and wealth
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I suppose all those and way more under capitalism is OK to you tho, as long as you get to live in your western capitalist bubble with nobody challenging your views
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>At least living in my 'Bubble' I'm allowed to keep the fruits of my hardwork and express myself freely.
Lmao or so they got you thinking at least. Ignorance is truly a bliss i admit that
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You know what's gross?
When American intersectional feminist SJWs have those edgy Soviet Union hammer and sickle symbols in their Twitter handles. While THEY call everyone a Nazi all the time, while glorifying the horrendous murder and rape of millions of people in communist regimes.
Commies = Worse than fucking Nazis.
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Well, Stalin forbid abortion and eliminated the Trotskyists, so I would say maybe.
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And he paid for that by being killed and the US Army guys he got to save Germany and Japan being eliminated and discredited by Korea and Vietnam.
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Yeah let’s totally give communism another chance, I’m pretty sure it won’t kill another 100 million people
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yeah, i hear stalin personally strangled 500 billion people to death himself
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Let's make it 200 millions !
Cuba, China and North Korea did nothing wrong lel
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“Yeah but that wasn’t R E A L communism, it’s just that it was never put into place.”
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It was put into place before, and those countries burned down.
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Other version:
Islam has only killed 290 million people
It's a religion of peace!
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That's not real communism the idea of communism is good but it corrupts people so badly and so fast
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of course we've to give it another chance! i mean, look at n korea and cuba, they're totally 1st world superpowers, right? communism rocks capitalism should go to hell
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How about we don’t because too many people has already died from that idiotic ideology known as communism. It has already hurt me family once.
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please, capitalism kills more people in 5 years than communism has ever
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Do you have a source for that?
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All the (preventable) deaths from hunger, lack of shelter etc around the world, all the wars for oil, most wars actually, european colonization/imperialism etc.....
eand.co/if-communism-killed-mi…
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You know hunger also happens in communist countries (in fact, it is the main problem in communist countries). Also, can I remind you of the Soviet Union? If you are talking about European countries and what not, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't care about what happens outside the United States. Also, most European countries are socialist, not capitalist. Communism never worked because whenever a country implemented communism, it's economy always crashed. I'm gonna admit, capitalism does have MAJOR flaws (and I'm a capitalist by the way), but unfortunately, it's the only system that truly allows it's country to prosper without all the civilians suffering. All political systems will result in someone suffering, there is no perfect system. We just gotta choose the one that has the least amount of suffering. The reason why capitalism works, but communism doesn't is because communism tries to get rid of ambition, which is part of human nature, as humans are extremely ambitious creatures. Capitalism, as cruel as it may sound, exploits this ambition because the ambitious are willing to work their tail off to get what they want.
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>You know hunger also happens in communist countries (in fact, it is the main problem in communist countries).
yes I am aware. Wouldnt really call those countries communist by any standards tho... but yes i have read a lot about USSR and others. What Soviets did was state capitalism, not real socialism (as cliche as it sounds)
>Also, most European countries are socialist, not capitalist.
Not at all, theyre Social Democracies which is just capitalism with higher taxes and some safety nets like free healthcare etc. (still miles better than what USA is doing)
>Communism never worked because whenever a country implemented communism, it's economy always crashed.
Communism never worked because it was never achieved, and any states that were trying to achieve it through socialism, were/are being fucked over by America. Wars, military interventions, funding fascist death squads, staging coups, installing puppet dictators that do whatever you say and whatever is best for western capitalism and the US Empire. Every time a country tries to deviate from capitalism, it gets invaded by America
>I'm gonna admit, capitalism does have MAJOR flaws (and I'm a capitalist by the way)
I doubt that youre a capitalist (as in someone who owns factories or other means of productions and doesnt sell his labor for living), youre just a worker defending capitalism. Maybe you like millions of others have been sold the idea that you can one day become rich. It is possible, but the chances are extremely low and even if you make it, millions of others wont and will be left in poverty.
>communism tries to get rid of ambition, which is part of human nature, as humans are extremely ambitious creatures.
Communism isnt trying to get rid of it. People have ambition in capitalist societies only because they have been brainwashed and conditioned to do so. Our whole lives we have been bombarded with ads and media that tells us that we need to buy this that and third, and you need money for it. If we reworked the whole system, we could just as well "brainwash" people to work hard, and be inspired by the mere fact that what theyre doing/inventing will help their fellow human beings.
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You don't seem understand that humans are not the most "selfless" creatures either. And if we are gonna go that route with "blame the USA for the failure of communism" then we should go back to a couple historical events. Let's talk about the Berlin Wall, which had very little USA influence over the event. Here's a link:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin…
Also, let's talk about when Cuba became communist. How America launched the Bay of Pigs Invasion. The invasion was a complete failure. The USA even attempted to assassinate Fidel Castro, which ended in a failure (though I wish they killed the bastard, excuse my foul language, Castro is a sensitive topic to me). Here's another link to support my statement:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of…
Also, the Soviet Union was in fact communist. The Cold War was practically democracy vs communism. Cuba had tried to adopt the same economic system as the Soviet Union, which was communism. If the Soviet Union wasn't communism, then the Cold War would most likely never had happened. Here's some proof of my statement:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet…
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_W…
Also, no, I'm not a worker because I'm not even old enough to have a job. Ambition is not something that can be drilled into someone. Ambition is a strong desire to do or to achieve something. For someone to become ambitious, they must desire something. The reason why communism takes away ambition is because the economy communism uses is a command economy. A command economy is an economy in which production, investment, prices, and incomes are determined centrally by the government. This means the government also controls what jobs the civilians have, therefore, taking away ambition. Also, some of the even more ambitious people (such as myself) are willing to compete and 1-up other people to achieve our desired goal. In order for communism to work, ambition must be removed because people who have an ambition aren't gonna help others, especially if it gets in their way of their goal.
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Cuba is doing great considering its situation, imperial America does everything to destabilize it with sanctions and other methods of economic warfare. Cuba has the most doctors per 1000 citizens in the world and thats amazing, all thanks to free education. Cuban doctors play an enormous part in helping 3rd world countries.
>Also, the Soviet Union was in fact communist.
It literally isnt, you should really do some research on what communism means. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun…
"Communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1] [2] is a philosophical , social , political , and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society , which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes , money ,[3] [4] and the state .[5] [6] "
doesnt really sound like USSR to me
>Ambition is a strong desire to do or to achieve something. For someone to become ambitious, they must desire something. The reason why communism takes away ambition is because the economy communism uses is a command economy. A command economy is...
Again, you really only seem to understand communism on some 4chan meme- type level...
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I'm Cuban-American you know. My great-grandparents were killed by Castro because they had differing opinions. The reason for the excess in doctors is because, like I said, Cuba uses a command economy, meaning the government decides what jobs civilians gets. Also, nothing is free in life because someone has to pay for the supposedly "free" education. Taxes must be through the roof there. Also, the definition of communism is practically an idea for some utopian society, which will never happen because of human nature. Also, I've never been on 4chan in my life. Do I plan to go on 4chan? Nope.
Also, if Cuba was so "great", then can you explain the Pedro Pan flights?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat…
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What? People absolutely get to pick their careers/jobs/education in Cuba, its not a god damn Gulag you know? do some research
The other side of my family is from Ukraine, doesnt mean I believe all the American propaganda and slander about the Soviet Union.
Operation Peter Pan was a CIA operation (surprise surprise), its laughable that anyone could think that the priests could move that amount of children.
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oh, dear, you blocked me because you're weak. that su avatar only makes it better; it marks you out as an uneducated kid.
i think you'll find that what failed was communist ideology, in the form of marxism-leninism.
what resulted from the revolutions wasn't socialism, let alone communism. socialism is common ownership and democratic management of the means of production in a social group. the ussr certainly wasn't very democratic; that was an example of state bureaucracy taking over after "war communism". yet communism as a system is by definition stateless.
the entire black book of communism is thus being used to argue from a perspective which says that the system doesn't work, though its implementation hasn't.
furthermore, figures such as those who perished to stalin's gulags before the war have been shown to be grossly inflated by experts who have extensively studied the soviet union .
you also forgot about anarchocommunism, which i support more because ideologically-speaking, marxism-leninism has almost always failed for the same reasons, including state bureaucracy itself. the difference is that anarchists want the state to fuck off asap, rather than those who adhere to marxist political ideology, whose goal is to use the state as a tool to get through relatively authoritarian socialism to communism.
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but, but , but my sociology professor has promised me that it will work this time!!.
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[citation needed]
now i'm gonna wait for butthurt.
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