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Ok hating on people who believe in a religion is as bad as hating on athiests, you don't know if god exisits or not ok?Religion also may have caused a lot of suffering but do you have selective memory my friend? Religion also made the greatest writers, the greatest artists, the greatest mathemticians, the greatest doctors, the greatest asrtologist, the greates philosephers, the greatest empires come into exsistance, inspiring the world today, without religion we wouldn't have all the great things we have in the world today! And this my friend is coming from a non-relgious Agnostic born into an atheist family.
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Except that I don't hate people who believe in religion, I hate religion, it is a subtle but important difference.
Also religion did not "make" the greatest writers, artists, or mathematicians. In fact fact religion went a very long way to suppressing mathematicians for an extremely long time. It certainly might have been the only thing that was allowed to inspire a great many of the most talented people in previous times, because if you did a great work back then and it didn't praise God, or Shiva, or etc... Then it was rejected as morally deviant.
Calling yourself an agnostic is great and all, but you really need to work on your critical thinking skills my friend.
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Except the idea that the value of pain is negative.
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I'd disagree with that. In nearly all cases pain IS a bad thing, it means something is happening that shouldn't be.
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"... since I was present at the auction of a deacon's effects, for his life had not been ineffectual:--'The evil that men do lives after them.' "
"The Jesuits were quite balked by those Indians who, being burned atthe stake, suggested new modes of torture to their tormentors. Beingsuperior to physical suffering, it sometimes chanced that they weresuperior to any consolation which the missionaries could offer; and thelaw to do as you would be done by fell with less persuasiveness on theears of those who, for their part, did not care how they were done by,who loved their enemies after a new fashion, and came very near freelyforgiving them all they did.Be sure that you give the poor the aid they most need..."
"Be true to your work, your word, and your friend. "
"It is never too late to give up your prejudices."
Henry David Thoreau
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Yeah I like to make sure that the things I post hold up to reality, and at first I was a little skeptical of this one. Unfortunately the more you think about it, the more this seems to be absolutely on the money.
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I will. And it scares you doesn't it? Funny how something you deny can upset you so.
God bless.
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What upsets me is that you choose to waste your life believing (and spreading) ignorant and outdated Bronze Age myths that have no place in the modern world. It's time to let go of that security blanket and face reality like an adult.
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I'm highly intelligent and you can trust I don't fit in your stale assumptions of what I am, nor of what I face head on everyday fucking day of my life. There is room for both science and faith in the reality of my existence.
What is truly primitive and bronzeaged is your narrowed view on people with faith. But I fully understand it. I do. You need to make your deliberately chosen enemy dumber than he really is, solely to justify your own points of view.
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Science and faith are fundamentaly opposed. Science is knowledge based on evidence. Faith is belief without or in spite of evidence.
How is my "narrowed view on people of faith" primitive and "bronze-aged"? If I were to express my disbelief in supernatural deities in a Bronze Age society, I'd be liable for execution.
I do not view you as dumb or unintelligent, just immature and willfully ignorant.
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You appear to completely misunderstand the purpose of religion and faith as a phenomena.
As for science and religion being opposed in PURPOSE I see no problems. Religion is basically about why, while science is about how. Or even; good/evil and true/false. These are not my own words, but the words of a respected danish physicist now deceased. In any case I believe he is correct.
There are basically two types of idiots in these kinds of discussions:
1) PURELY scientifically minded people judging religion on a scientific premise.
2) PURELY religious minded people believing religion to have scientific purpose or value.
Naturally both completely fail since they misunderstand each point of view in relation to the other.
And please refrain from being arrogant, or calling me immature and an selfimposed ignorant.
The ignorance is solely on your side. I do not need to be saved from some delusion projected on me by the likes of yourself. I'm fine really
As for evidence, well everything really is. Open your eyes.
Oh and one last advice. Be careful not to end up just as fanatical as those you so obviously hate and fear.
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