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AdamKop In reply to ??? [2024-02-08 09:41:39 +0000 UTC]
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SuelJonsVasCitadel [2018-10-13 12:16:25 +0000 UTC]
Great looking ship. While the dorsal protrusion would make an easy target, it is lower than most Star Wars ships. A good layout of weaponry that shows an ability for both forward-fire and broadsides, with even a small amount of weapons watching its aft. While you have used very little, I think that the red paint only adds to the look of the ships and further outlines the wedge shape of this vessel. The side engines are a little exposed, but still better covered than most ships.
Overall, I like it! Good work.
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AdamKop In reply to SuelJonsVasCitadel [2018-10-13 19:49:43 +0000 UTC]
Thanks a lot! There's one really exposed tower but I hope that the bride just isn't located there
There are also two cannons on the bottom front that take care of anything big in front of the Destroyer. You can see a little bit of them in this shot.
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boomerbaptist [2018-03-28 18:09:54 +0000 UTC]
To me it looks like a Rothna or possibly Rendili design, possibly their proposal which lost to the Imperial class of Kuat.
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Pokemonever [2017-12-03 14:58:11 +0000 UTC]
Good work there, especially the superstructure.
One of my biggest peeves with the Star Destroyer line and many other larger SW ships is that they have their command bridges on massive towers or spires, often they are half the width of the ship as well and are a nightmare for coverage since they create blocks for many of the guns to shootΒ into a certain direction.
And while this one is also pretty big it is more subtle and doesn't have "Hit here" written on it with an arrow pointing at a bullseye over the windows. I also imagine that the bridge is likely deeper into the structure rather than being right behind some window. This also likely means that the area of the bridge is more easily defended from out-of-control A-Wings.
As for the top-down silhouette of the ship, that bit jutting out to the rear would probably be slated in the opposite direction to the rest, which would be a huge improvement regarding coverage as it would at least provide some guns to fire into the rear as well as some Point-Defense in that direction if it has it.
I still have my reservations over a slated triangle design like this as it is a horrible shape for a warship in terms of its functionality and provides no advantages due to having far less internal space to be used for needed systems. But even so, this is a great redesign and massive improvement over the original ISD1 and ISD2
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Hardcorev20 In reply to Pokemonever [2018-03-04 19:49:35 +0000 UTC]
Actually the wedge is an excellent shape for a warship, if you give major turreted gun batteries enough spacing or make them superfiring, you got a design that can bow tank and return fire with all of it's heavy weapons.Β
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Pokemonever In reply to Hardcorev20 [2018-03-05 02:32:29 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that is Tarkin Doctrine, the doctrine of idiots.
All of your guns can fire forward. So what? Imperial Star Destroyer have the big problem that they can barely fire backward, the ISD2 doesn't have any Point-Defense Systems and it got more blindspots than just the rear, namely a large section that has the guns on the top intercepted by the ship's own massive, unnecessarily so, bridge.
On top of that the wedge shape, as I pointed out, means that there is far less over all volume in the inside than in a more oval shaped ship or one that has a more square shape to it. For comparison, the Jupiter-class Battlestars, like the Galactica, are only to my knowledge 1414 meters in length yet have a far greater internal volume not even counting the flightpods, as their width is consistent throughout the vessel.
In the ISD line on the other hand you have gas tanks for the plasma-based "Turbolaser", maintenance facilities for fighters and ground vehicles, storage areas for those two things, the troop compartments for up to 9000 man strong garrisons, a pre-fabricated Garrison Base and a training facility, all crammed into the same space and that isn't even accounting for the shield generators, reactors, engine units and facilities for the normal crew.
And don't even get me started on the fact that those shitty ships take over 10k people with them every time they explode because some idiot thought they had to make every battleship also a troop carrier.
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Hardcorev20 In reply to Pokemonever [2018-03-05 13:39:26 +0000 UTC]
True, but here's the thing about the Tarkin Doctrine, think of it like the Big Stick idea. Where it's just loads-and-loads of ship-killing guns. The ISD does have limited point-defense but most of it comes from the ship's TIE fighters. But your right, the ISD-I and ISD-II aren't the best designs, it's all but stated on Wookiepedia the Star Wars wiki that is 176,000 design flaws waiting to be exploited in an ImpStar Deuce.Β Β
Also the ISD is a multi-purpose ship, it's designed to do multiple roles, in this case combination Capital Ship/Carrier -with it's 72 TIE fighters-/troop transport. Which makes sense for the Empire, having one ship that can do the role of three or four other ships reduces cost.Β
However, there is a variant of the ISD called the Tector class which is more designed for combat. It's hull is more heavily armored and it doesn't have a hanger.Β
Overall the Imperial Star Destroyers are okay ships, but if you strip their fighter wings then they are in a lot of trouble.Β Β
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Pokemonever In reply to Hardcorev20 [2018-03-05 15:03:02 +0000 UTC]
The Tector-class is an improvement of concept, yeah. That is mostly because it is mainly a battleship. But the problem still is that the empire was wasting its resources in making a jack-of-all-trades-garbage-in-all type of ship.
The Venator-class had a similar problem but it was less the design and more the tactics employed with them. As carriers and transports, they were good, they were robust and could take a beating yes. But they were thrown into combat despite being dedicated aircraft carriers so it is less the fault of the designers than the fault of the commanders.
The ISD line though has the problem that their purpose is frontline battleship first and foremost but they cram so many extra purposes into it just so they can spare some more money to throw into the shredder known as the Death Stars that they relied almost exclusively on those over-multi-purposed pizza slices.
I can tell you a few things I would've done if I was to decide what designs and ship-types the empire were to use, but that may as well have been the death of the Rebellion to be honest.
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Maskeeper [2017-11-07 05:06:16 +0000 UTC]
Gotta say, if I was given a command of a star destroyer, I'd chose this one.Β
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boettcherART [2017-08-29 12:58:55 +0000 UTC]
love it, wonderful elegant design!!
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Lord-Waka [2017-02-16 19:37:53 +0000 UTC]
Very cool design. Remind me of the Bellator and Assertor super star destroyers from the SW Legend universe, but with smoother shapes.Β
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maxwell789 [2017-01-17 08:41:54 +0000 UTC]
I love this design while the original star destroyer's designΒ was not bad Β ; this one has more definition than a plainΒ white triangle star ship.Β
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AdamKop In reply to maxwell789 [2017-01-18 19:18:52 +0000 UTC]
Thanks a lot!
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SeraphimD-Kiryu [2016-12-10 10:22:59 +0000 UTC]
It's very Bellator like in design. Very similar shape very nice.
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SeraphimD-Kiryu In reply to AdamKop [2016-12-15 13:32:07 +0000 UTC]
The Bellator is my favourite of all the super star destroyers she is very unique. Β Though those rear main guns look like they will shoot the ones in front of them on this design.
But other than that it's an amazing ship, I am curious what you use to create your art.
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crystaldragon141 In reply to SeraphimD-Kiryu [2017-01-15 07:13:47 +0000 UTC]
I think the gun placement would only be an issue if it was shooting straight forward. If I were attacking this ship I'd come from the top bottom or side since there is a lot more profile to hit. In the regard those cannons wouldn't have any issue interfering with each other.
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SeraphimD-Kiryu In reply to crystaldragon141 [2017-01-15 18:49:17 +0000 UTC]
Forward and full on broadside is where those rear guns have problems. Since they are side by side if an enemy is directly broadside those guns can't all be brought to bare. Even it's underside will have some cannons somewhere. The only true way to approach a Star Destroyer of any type is from the rear where minimum weapons could actually fire upon your ship. It's a blind spot especially on such a large and slow vessel.
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anguisehdgoose [2016-11-23 15:58:01 +0000 UTC]
this looks fucking amazing
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RepoChin [2016-11-23 08:40:43 +0000 UTC]
Great piece of work, as a Star Wars fan I'm more an impressed by your skills
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