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Superman, Superboy, and the current Supergirl (much as I don't care for the character). I really like drawing Superboy, who is just such a teen-heartthrob character that he contrasts nicely with the more classical Superman. I think of him visually as a cross between Josh Hartnett and Freddy Prinze Jr. For Kara, I just tried to capture those girls back in High School who were into sports and really athletic, but not very bright at all. Heh.Superman, though... he kicked my butt. My hat's off to anybody who can draw a good Supes - he's one of the hardest characters to really capture that I've ever encountered.
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I am still grieving for Conner... And yes I now what you mean when you say its hard to capture the Superman "look". I still think you did a great job.
I disagree with your opinion of Supergirl... Reading some of the recent issues it seems like the writers are really showing what she's made of... Being the "new" Supergirl even though she is the real one... its enough to mess anybody up, and she's hadling it prettywell...
But again that's my opinion
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I like the current artist's take, and I've only really skimmed recent issues, but from that God-awful introductory arc in Superman/Batman to the majority of her appearances since, she's been portrayed as selfish, whiny, immature and mean. Most of her stories have focused on her fighting a super-chick of the month, and she's had too many origin stories for a character only a couple years old. Whether or not the character has potential, she's been written terribly, and handled poorly by pretty much everybody who's taken a crack at her. I'm not against Supergirl, just the way they've done THIS Supergirl.
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Shouldn't Lois be in there as well she IS married to clark/superman.
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Technicality! But a great catch - hadn't even thought of her, sadly. Now I feel bad!
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You could always do another one that has her in it
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Shouldn't Lois be in there as well she IS married to clark/superman.
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Well I think Conner Kent looks freaking awesome. The others are done well, as well. Don't get yourself down too much it is always hard to wrap your head around the iconic characters like Superman because of the lack of relatability. Not a big fan of the new Supergirl myself. I would take the Linda Danvers merged with Matrix supergirl anyday.
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Oh, it isn't the relatability. I think too many people give Supes a hard time about being 'relatable.' When written well, I find he's as relatable as anybody else. Most times, people just get too caught up on how much power he has and write him off.
What's hard with Superman is catching his iconic 'look.' He's strong, but not overly muscular; really handsome, but not '
But thanks for the Connor compliment. He's MUCH easier to draw! And I, too, prefer Linda Danvers. The current Supergirl is completly superfluous and redundant, without being at all interesting in her own right.
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Well I agree with you on Superman, but all too often when you pick up JLA or what have you he is written very much like he believes more in his power being absolute then in his skills. So this gives a lot of people the suggestion of a god like being. Now I have been a Superman fan since I was very young, and with a lot of the writing in the last five years I have found that people have instead of giving him stronger villains have simply depowered him or made him seem like an over powered jerk. I mean if you think about the recent mind control by Maxwell Lord over Superman, and then think back to the god like being Dominus he faced after the Millenium Giants storyline, when he first went back to his old powers, you would know he has some defense against a mental attack. None the less the writers seem only interested in their own stories and not continuity.
As for Conner he is an awesome character, and I plan on drawing him a bit myself in the near future if only to show my support for his return. Linda was an awesome Supergirl because of her imperfections. This new one seems to be trying to touch on too many fan boy trips. I mean the crystalline projections from her body recently seemed like something straight out of Witchblade. Just me though.
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Now, I’d say that the continually escalating power levels of Superman foes is part of the problem with the character. It’s like the Superman Returns movie-- he valiantly pushes himself to the brink to lift a mountain of Kryptonite and hurl it into the sun. Okay, cool… but how the frak do you top THAT?! Will it be a continent of Kryptonite next? A planet?! You’re better off reducing his power levels to merely unbelievably freaking powerful than to be caught in an endless loop of ever-increasing villain power. It’s “Dragonball Z syndrome” - once you blow up that much of the planet without breaking a sweat, people stop believing anything is a challenge, anymore.
Personally, I loved the Max Lord stuff. It was a great moment, as was the Wonder Woman bit that it included. Tons of emotion, tons of character, and while I thought pretty much everything in Infinite Crisis and all the works that have come since have been crap on a stick, that particular storyline was quite gripping for me. But then, I prefer my Superman to have more of an emphasis on the MAN and less on the SUPER, so take that for what it’s worth.
Though I’m definitely not a fan of the ‘weeping little girl in the fetal position’ Superman stuff you see sometimes, either.
And if Connor comes back, I’ll be happy, but it’ll just be one more meaningless death/return story that hurts characters and books without providing anything of substance in return.
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Not to be rude, but the Superman movie wasn't that great. I mean I wanted it to be, and it had the potential but singer came up short. The mountain thing seemed like a touch on the silver age roots they were going for. I mean there are issues of Superboy where he totes planets to a new solar system because their sun is going nova from the silver age. So the mountain thing wasn't all that severe to me. They need to touch on the old movies and have an opposition of someone that is truly a genius. I mean I like mad scientist Lex, but I prefer entreapaneur Lex that had a clean record and did his evil under the table. He was still a genius but in more ways then simply in the lab. Put Superman against his mental superior and you can have a good story.
I didn't mean to imply I didn't like the writing. I meant to imply that they didn't do enough research. He was entertaining, but it totally disregarded some of the past experiences of Superman. As for Wonder Woman's actions I thought it was right. They hardly touch on her being an amazon and frankly that was just like an amazon of legend would of handled it. It was great. I like the stories that make Superman seem more human then a human emotionally. I didn't like the parasite thing that happened to him where he lost it over Lois being replaced by Parasite and couldn't tell entirely. That was kind of gay, but McGuiness's art was good. I know you might not respect that style, but I like the drawn larger then life version of Superman that McGuiness drew.
If Conner comes back I will be happy, and just because it makes his death cliche' won't bother me too much as long as I can have the character back. Then again a lot of people want Bart back as well. I fear it won't happen, but hope for the best. Thanks for the well thought out responses thus far. Your a very intelligent person.
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I guarantee you Bart will be back. And Connor was a clone in the first place - that’s as good as a promise for his return.
And I agree that the Superman movie could have been better, I just thought the mountain of Kryptonite was a good example of what I was talking about with the trouble of escalating threat power-levels. I’m right there with you on Lex as the billionaire mogul, as it made him absolutely untouchable. He could be the most sadistic, evil SOB on the planet, bringing pain and suffering to hundreds of thousands, and never have to break a single law!
And I also happen to LOVE the McGuiness Superman. I hadn’t read Superman solo comics in a serious way since his death and return, and started again when Ed came on-board. He’s one of my favorite artists, and one of my favorite spins on the character. So you’re definitely in friendly company, here
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Man your a great artist, and you like McGuiness and actually take the time to converse with people that aren't on the same artistic level as yourself. Wow. Few and the proud I guess. lol. McGuiness is one of my favorite artists as far as Superman goes. Don't get me wrong I like Alex Ross, but not a giant fan of Jim Lee's work. I mean it looks good, but most of the men look exactly the same, at least to me. McGuiness drew Superman large, and he drew Batman large. As they should be. I mean come on Batman should be stout considering all he does as a human being.
As for Bart and Conner I really hope your right. I know they have publicly had Robin searching for a way to bring Conner back, but there is no telling what Lex has been doing to bring, whom he considers, his son back. If Robin ends up teaming with Lex they may very well find a way, plus it would make for a good story. By the way you inspired me the other day with your speedster family. I went and drew my own speedster after I saw your piece. If I get some time I might even throw some colors on him.
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Glad to hear I got you drawing. And i don't mind a little conversation, when I've got the time to converse. Just ask my wife - you get me going on comics stuff, and I'll talk your ear off for hours!
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So do you think Bart will stay an adult or come back as a teenager? There is going to be a good Titans of Tomorrow story coming up soon in Teen Titans, and Conner is still Superman with that team. So it should be interesting.
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I'm actually guessing they'll bring him back more or less adult(ish), but over time slowly have us 'forget' that he's an adult and regress him to a kid again without coming out and saying it. They do it all the time - just suddenly change something and then don't talk about it long enough that the readers forget it was ever different.
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Your probably right, then a big fan commotion or something of the like will happen, and the speedforce did it somehow. lol. Sorry but not a big fan of some of the decisions made by the higher ups as of late. You know? I heard a lot of good things about the "All Flash" but it came off pretty average to me. I didn't actually hate the "Fastest Man Alive" series of flash. I thought would come into his own eventually. Guess it was good enough for Didio.
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All Flash didn't seem any different from any other Flash issue, except that they spoiled us with awesome Karl Kerschl artwork before hitting us with the spotty lameness of the regular ongoing artist, which was kind of a bad idea. And the FMA series wasn't particularly interesting, unless you were a Bart Allen diehard, and even then it was a bit dodgy. Would it have eventually worked the kinks out? Maybe, but it would have taken years and years to get the bad taste out of our mouths as to the 'kill/remove Wally to arbitrarily move in Bart' stuff.
As you can guess, I'm not any kind of fan of pretty much ANY of the decisions made by either Marvel or DC in the last couple years.
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As for being a big Bart fan, not really. I mean I like the character a lot, but like I said I am a bigger Superboy fan. I think it mostly has to deal with the fact that I was a huge Young Justice fan. So I guess I do have a tendency to be biased toward Bart. None the less they made Bart Flash. They should of rode it out like they did when Wally took over for Barry. That is just my opinion. If they would of brought back Wally they could of least had Bart pick up where Max Mercury left off. I mean Max was his mentor for sometime. You know? Just me I guess. I am behind you when it comes to being a little up in arms against some of the decisions made as of late. Killing characters to sell books just shows a lack of creativity in my opinion.
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