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Five times in Seishirouβs life he encountered Subaru.Related content
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He is sooooo cute! maybe I'll.Β
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ill be on as soon as skype behaves xD
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In case my message on Tumblr won't reach you... THANK YOU A LOT FOR MAKING ART INSPIRED TO MY FIC!
You really made my day! I thought everyone had completely forgotten that old story and that no one was reading it anymore... so really, thank you!
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Hohohoho! thanks!!!
Β I'm really glad you liked it!Β
Actually, I think I've read most of your seisub fics.
I like to read them from time to time, they are lovely!
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I love it!
I'm happy if you like my fics! Just wondering, you read only the ones on fanfiction.net or also the ones on livejournal?
(I'm trying to find out if people still read the ones on LJ...)
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Do you have more?? @_@
I never found your LJ, so the ones I knew is from FF.Β
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LOL, a lot more. I was quite prolific some time ago. The ones on fanfiction.net are the ones who got betaed (my English sadly isn't that good). If you feel like giving my old works a look you can find them here (in order to get more chapters for the multichapters fic you've to click on the tag with the fic name...)
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OMG! Β
Β So many fics!!!
And with teen!Seishirou and Subaru!!
I've such a HUGE crush for this type of AU!!!
I'll accommodate myself there for a couple of days.... hohohoho!
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I've warned you I was discretely prolific back then!
I hope you'll enjoy them and will overlook the poor English... and maybe you'll let me know what you think about them... (warning: not all of them are finished...)
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Don't worry about it. I know is quite hard to write, My first language isn't english either.
So far so good, they all have such good themes and interesting AUs.
I liked a lot how you pΓctured Lady Sumeragi in "Learn, Live, Hope" she seems so human, she even felt remorse towards what she did to Subaru and what he had become.
I always saw her pictured like an old hag, cold and demanding. Hohoho a little sad cause everytime that I was totally absorbed in the story, the fic wouldn't have an end.
I have many other opinions, but they are too many to write ^^''
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Well, it's easy to picture Lady Sumeragi like an old hag because even if I'm sure she loves Subaru and cares for him a lot she's so duty devoted she often comes out as cold and here and there I ended up portraying her as such as well in some fics. It's a hard character because she's tied to a way to think that's quite different from ours...
Ehm... actually there were 2 long stories that were finished but were put down due to revising so... *hides*
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She really seems so. I was shocked when I read what happened with her in that one fic.
I'm enjoying reading everything (Hohohohoho).
I liked how you developed the more serious plots like in "The things you do" and "Of curses and wishes",
even if they are dark plots, they are still heartwarming like in the other fanfics.
Ohhh they are finished but aren't published?
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Sadly her death was planned from the beginning. The problem with her was that although she cared for Subaru she just couldn't stop continuing to think she knew better. The only chance for Subaru for her to let go of him was if she hadn't been around anymore. At this point she would have to entrust him to someone else and, although she doesn't like Seishiro much... well there's not much else for her to chose.
The Sumeragi were going through a bad time and Subaru really wasn't cut for playing the role of the leader at such a young age and without emotional support.
Even if he hadn't met Seishiro and stuffs had happened he would have crashed down.
The thing you do might get an update sooner or later. I've quite a bunch of new pages written but I can't persuade myself to post them... I'm not fully satisfied with them...
Well, they were published then I decided to rewrite them so they were put down. If you check the tags old cwwyw, old etm, old gooc, old mik you can see some chapters of the old versions.
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I agree, Subaru would've crashed anyway. Fuuma was just the cherry on top of the cake.
Β But, Lady Sumeragi was the one who fired Seishou, right?
Β That was her plan from the beginning?
I don't know if I can bear the feels if I read the old versions.
I'll stay safe for now.....
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I admit I had a lot of fun writing Fuma in that particular fic... <.p
Yes, it was her doing. She didn't quite planned from the beginning to get rid of Seishiro, she expected Subaru to give up on his studies on his own or Seishiro to grow bored with Subaru and leave but instead she was forced to realize this wasn't happening and that instead Subaru was getting too close to Seishiro and got scared by it. Subaru's attachment to Seishiro is unhealthy, even if also generated by the unhealthy circumstances in which Subaru lived and made him an easy target should Seishiro decide to take advantage of that.
Although Subaru's grandmother had tried to stay open minded as Seishiro is really not involved with the Sakurazukamori, doesn't know a thing of Onmyoudo and it wouldn't be fair to hold against him the fact his mother was the previous Sakurazukamori, she can't forget from where Seishiro came and she can't miss how easily he could influence Subaru. So her prejudices and her fears got the best of her as well as her ambitions for her grandson.
She loves Subaru but she understands him very little. Subaru's changes scares her.
She was hoping Subaru would be forced to give up on studying, see the 'errors' of his way, and begin following the path she wanted for him. The more Seishiro is around the more it becomes obvious Subaru doesn't want to follow that path and that he's doing what he's doing merely out of kindness and obligations.
She tried to push the blame on Seishiro, thinking with him out of the picture, things would change and Subaru would realize his foolishness.
However she undervalued the intensity of Subaru's feelings and the fact it wasn't Seishiro who caused Subaru to dislike the path she wanted for him. Sure, Seishiro was helping Subaru to get far from it, but Subaru didn't want it in the first place, actually deep down he rejected it with passion as that path is merely self harming to him and gives him no happiness but previously didn't really believe he could escape to it nor did he really know a different path.
Seishiro showed him the possibility to be happy in a moment in which Subaru was close to hit the rock bottom of unhappiness and when Subaru thought he could climb up and live a happy life, being stripped by Seishiro merely caused him to fall back into the cliff, only this time he hit the bottom of it.
If Lady Sumeragi had realized how close Subaru was to fall prior to Seishiro's arrival she could have acted differently but she realized that Subaru was falling only after he came and that, while Seishiro was pulling up, he was also pulling him a different way from the one she wanted so she ended up thinking Seishiro generated the discontentment Subaru was feeling and tempted him with ideas Subaru previously didn't have.
She realized her mistake only after she saw the results of her actions. Subaru had nothing else to hold him up apart the hope Seishiro gave him. It was unhealthy and dangerous? Yes but the other option was worse. She should have fixed things immediately, as soon as she saw what Seishiro leaving did to Subaru but part of her was scared by the situation she was forced to face as she now could see clearly the extent of damage that life had done to Subaru and another side was still stubbornly hoping things could be fixed by her and would end as she wanted.
She however was wise enough to realize that if something were to happen to her, no one would be there to help Subaru which is why she surrender to the idea that, were she dead, the only thing she could do for her grandson was to try and hand him to Seishiro. She still doesn't trust him but is litterally left with no other options as she doesn't think someone else apart from her can do something. From her perspective she takes a huge risk as she doesn't trust Seishiro. He's just her last option.
LOL, I apologize, I wrote quite a long explanation so I hope you didn't got too bored with it.
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Hohoho don't worry about it, I really like to read. ;]
It's just show how well you did the construction of Lady Sumeragi for this fanfic.
You gave her a soul she didn't had. Now she only can hope everything turns out right for them in the end.
Subaru is crashed, but so is Fuuma. Looks like he had such a nasty past too, the way he says Subaru will die like Kotori, almost like he is saying Subaru could die of loneliness and betrayal.....
But aside that...
Quite interesting the way you pictured Seishirou's relation with his mother.
Is there a reason why he could fear her that much? Aside from the fact she abused him quite roughly.
He claims to be the best Sakurazukamori of the century, why should he fear her so much?
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^_________^
I was glad just for once I had a chance to develop her human side. More often than not for plot reasons I don't have all that time and she comes out as a complete jerk...
In LLL Fuma is rather broken but he hid it under his obsession for shows, anime and movies and his apparently carefree attitude. If one doesn't pay close attention to his behaviour he can look only a bit odd when actually his mind partially withdrawl in a world of fantasy which he tries to force in the real world to make it look less painful. Still the real world comes to haunt him. All in all his behaviour is only a copying mechanism he attempts to use, not one he has fully mastered... which in a way is good or he'll be completely insane... ^_^;;;
You're not talking of the Seishiro in LLL, are you?
According to the fic I've tried different takes of Seishiro's relationship with his mother even if it usually was an ultimately harmful relation for him.
Abuse, expecially if suffered when one was young but it can work just fine even if one is a full adult, can have the nasty effect to tamper with your sense of self preservation to the point you associate certain things to 'life threatening danger' even when they actually aren't anymore.
Many abusers use this to mantain control of their victims even when they don't have the power anymore to keep it so that the victim won't rebel even when he/she would have the chance to get free or to return what he/she had gotten.
I think the fic in which I developed the most the effects of abuse on Seishiro is 'The thing you do' even if in it Setsuka went overboard. As a result though, even if Seishiro could overpower her easily, he basically froze when he sees her.
An outsider wouldn't think he's afraid of her because he puts up a confident front, is strong and can be pretty violent and he too tries to persuade himself he's not afraid and that he had 'gotten over' what he had suffered.
Sadly instead everything is still there and is keeping on harming him only it's bottled up and hidden so that apparently it doesn't cause pain.
TBXSeishiro has probably done the same with whatever type of abuse he had received. He had stored it in an hidden corner and decided he had overcomed it, that it didn't really harm him much and that, anyway, now he's the one in control and probably part of how he toys with people stems by how he was toyed by his mother.
If you think at how strongly Seishiro retaliate against whoever touches him you however get an idea of how psychologically harmful it should have been for him to just take whatever his mother did to him in silence and maybe even pretend he was cool with it.
Not that this washes away the horrible things he does but it explains why he reacts certain ways to certain things.
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Hohohoh I think I already read 50% of your works.
Each fic has such an interesting plot, how do you have those ideas?
Yep, I was talking about Seishirou from " The things you do" and "Because we are..."
He looks terrified when he sees Setsuka, and that was one thing that Β got my attention.
I've never thought he could be afraid of her.
She clearly left deep wounds in his mind and isn't everyday that a fic shows
Seishirou with family/psychological problems too, usually only Subaru is
portrayed that way, another thing that got my attention.
Even the Sakurazukamori has problems!
Does TBX Seishirou retaliate against touches?
I've joined this fanfom for only 5 months now,
so my knowledge is really poor, sorry.
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Wow, you're fast.
Well, let's divide the two Seishiros as their problems steams from different things.
TTYD Seishiro had been abused in any way one can think of (psychological, physical, sexual) from when he was so small he can't really remember it.
Setsuka 'raised' him and she was the monster that controlled his life and from whom he had no way out for most of his life.
Although he's in denial about it he basically spent his life being terrorized by her and unable to let behind what she did to him.
He's psychologically wreched (in addition to having physical scars) and it shows in many ways, starting from the first scene of the fic.
BWASeishiro was abused a lot less but he's put in a situation that generate pressure on him.
He's in denial about the harm he suffered, he can't kill Setsuka due to emperor's order but believes she won't let him be (and he's right).
As a result he lives with a fear he doesn't want to acknowledge and, as he doesn't acknowledge it, he can't even do anything to stop it.
To make matter worse Setsuka's mind is deteriorating so she's getting more and more dangerous while Seishiro is young enough to not have developed yet the confidence in himself he pretends to have.
Like the previous Seishiro he's now strong enough to stop Setsuka but he's unable to emotionally realize it and rationally he isn't sure of it (although Seishiro likes to view himself as the best Sakurazukamori and he is at the moment the difference in power between him and Setsuka isn't so huge she wouldn't be a hard adversary plus she has much more experience than him and, of course, she has psychological power over him).
TB/X Seishiro is actually very touching prone probably also thanks to Setsuka's 'training' as she liked to have her son act physically loving with her.
TB/X Setsuka's abuse is scary as it's very psychological and is aimed at molding Seishiro into what she wants starting from when Seishiro was around 9.
We see glimpses of it only through Seishiro's drama cd (there was a better translation but now I can't find it) and a bit of his sidestory but there the damage has already be done and one has to be able to read between the lines because Setsuka is smooth enough and Seishiro is controlled enough you could miss it.
TB/X Seishiro however likely believes he freed himself from her by killing her and being in denial on the harm she did to him.
He probably feels in control of his life and doesn't even realize many of his convinctions and the bet itself stream from his relation with Setsuka.
TB/X Seishiro's damage is still present in him but likely he has learnt to cope with it so well it's part of him, like his blind eye.
I guess it's the difference between a raw wound and a scar. He's left with scars while TTYD Seishiro and BWA Seishiro are dealing with raw wounds.
And ops... I ended up talking too much again...
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HoHoHo I'm in the "compulsive fanfic reader" mode
Is a sad thing that occurs when I find new fics to read, and you gave me a whole tag! xDD
So, all of they are trying to bear the abuses stoically....that's answers why he's afraid of her.
That CD drama file is really something, everytime I hear it I'm almost certain that Setsuka
does something with Seishirou after she says she likes to hurt him, that woman is insane.
Btw, in "The game we play" the part when Seishirou meets Yuuko for the first time was hilarious,
I could almost see Seishirou pouting! Oh, Yuuko appears a lot in your works. We don't know
which universe holic takes place but, since all the fics takes place in AUs, can we say those AUs are in holic universe?
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LOL Don't I know that mode way too well?
Oh, in case you're interested there's also the TRC tag ... though it's devoted only to a certain pair of vampires and a certain pair of hunters...
Well, sort of. A stoic person knows he's enduring pain. I fear Seishiro is mostly in denial or trying to be.
It's a copying mechanism that in the long run is harmful because it stops you from searching a way out as... you believe there's nothing to escape from.
It however fits with the fact that Seishiro likely had the obligation to obey to Setsuka's whims and wasn't supposed to search for a way out, plus to the fact that he likely was educated with a different sense of morality that further damaged him so as to prepare him to become the new Sakurazukamori.
Setsuka has likely abused him when he was younger yet when Seishiro talks about her he doesn't describe her as a moster or someone insane or someone from whose hold he wanted to escape. Setsuka is just... Setsuka. A pretty woman that looked like a girl, that he called mother, that was the Sakurazukamori prior to him and whom he killed as per his duty.
Well, let's say Yuko, imho is one of the few people Seishiro might have troubles to interact with.
Honestly in my headcanon Yuko's shop was connected to many dimensions but the last developments in Rei seem to deny this theory so I guess you can consider my AU a crossover between a TB/X Au and an xxxHOLiC Au.
I blame how xxxHOLiC implied Yuko knew Subaru but didn't exactly explained if he's our Subaru and, if that's the case, in which point of the X timeline holic is taking place.
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ohh you shouldn't have said that...my compulsive mode is going to get worse Β Β
I like the TRC version, but my favorite is TB/X version.
Yes, I agree, Seishirou's opinion about his mother is quite simple:
A beautiful young girl, who he met at age of 9, and was the previous Sakurazukamori.
He didn't say nothing about her being insane, but he knows there had to be a reason why her room had iron bars.
The fact he never said nothing could be because, like everything else....de didn't care about his mother,
so he never felt the need to know her as a person, didn't mattered if she was insane,
he only needed to know her abilities as the Sakurazukamori, so one day he could surpass and kill her.
Imho that's why his opinion was that simple.
No one can't beat Yuuko, just bow at her awesomeness! Β
xxxHolic is a mistery until the end, maybe in the Rei version they
can explain something.
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Well, when Seishiro usually doesn't care it's not he doesn't pass judgement on that person, is that he finds irrelevant to bother himself with that person's problems. He gives us a piece of his mind over Kuniko Nagi for example, who's just a work for him, or over the party line girls. But beyond 'she was beautiful' he says nothing over his mother.
While it might not matter to him if a person is insane, he wouldn't hesitate to say it out loud. In addition, in this specific case, that person's insanity was harmful toward him. He should have cared about this at least.
When Setsuka died he claims he felt nothing. While it's perfectly okay he doesn't feel sorry or regretful the fact he doesn't feel relief at having gotten rid of her, her who harmed him (Seishiro made a point to let us know he's not one that accept to be attacked without retaliating) indicate by that time he was so used to her abuse he was okay with it... while in the drama cd he didn't seem to be so comfortable with certain things his mother did.
We aren't shown if he learnt something from her about Onmyoudo, all we see about their interaction is Setsuka playing with him as one would with his fave toy and teaching him to dance at her tune. Since we know that Seishiro while in middle school visited her he evidently didn't live with her back then.
Seishiro also, like Subaru, doesn't express any particular enthusiasm in his work. According to him he's good at it but he expresses no liking or interest in doing it.
Under the psychological point of view Seishiro surely is an intriguing character and I can spend hours taking all his sentences and actions and analyzing them as, to me, he's not as simple as he'll like to look.
But well, that's just me and as I often write Au, the Seishiros of the Au can end up being rather different from the Seishiro of TB/X as I've the bad habit of having fun changing his life.
Yuko is one of the best characters CLAMP ever created! I love her.
We'll see... though, to be honest, I was hoping they would consider continuing X not holic & TRC (or that at least they would end Gate 7 and Drug and drops). And this despite me loving xxxHOLiC and madly hoping with the new TRC we'll learn more about the vampires and the hunters.
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Ohh, Seishirou never was a simple character. He's one of the most complex and interesting characters of CLAMP.
Like that, is really difficult to know what he really do, thinks and cares about, we can spend long talks talking about him.
He's an ilusion within an ilusion, that's why I likes him.
In Clamp no Kiseki they Seishirou was a really easy character to create at first,
but they gave him such a personality that made him impossible to guess.
They really know how to create a character!
Right? Yuuko is the best character in CLAMP's story! Β
Yeah, I'm a little disappointed about it. XxxHolic didn't need a continuation,
they should have articulate a little more the last chapters.
So, now that xxxholic has a continuation they made TRC one too.
I hope they don't mess with TB/X cast in TRC, just show us how they are going.
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I agree! I wish CLAMP were to return to give him more space. I would really love to get more of him. (Even a bit of him in Horitsuba would be apprecciated!)
The last chapters felt rather rushed and random. It was as if their sole purpose was to tell us that a lot of time went by, enough for Watanuki to leave the shop yet he still couldn't move over Yuko so he remained there and nothing changed and so? To learn all this could have taken us less than a chapter. Meantime the egg was never useful, Himawari found a man who's immune to her misfortune ability (no idea how) and married him and Doumeki and Kohane married each other and made kids for the purpose of having those kids look after Watanuki. Really, I really needed those extra chapters to learn all this. No, okay, I'm just joking.
Yes, she's the most awesome ever!
Exactly. Especially as the continuation seems nothing new in the end.
Well, I would also like to know a little more about the TB/X cast background... I mean there were tons of unanswered questions.
Why were Kamui and Subaru escaping as it's said they aren't doing it merely to avoid Seishiro?
How did Seishiro 'changed' after he got Subaru's blood? It seems the change caused Kamui to rage against Seishiro and blame the change on Subaru's blood...
How Seishiro got hooked up with the two vampires?
Was he always a vampire hunter who met them by coincidence and then decided to obsess over Subaru?
Was he set on them?
Did he become a vampire hunter after meeting them?
How did he got to figure out that Shaoran/Tsubasa is the son of Shaoran/clone?
What's the stuff Yuko and Subaru talked about that's apparently connected to the Shaoran gang?
What's Fuma's wish?
How did they ended up all in the same dimension and are apparently living there together happily?!?Β
What did I miss between Seishiro's chasing Kamui and Subaru and Kamui would like to slice Seishiro to bits while Fuma is doing his job somewhere and everyone is living happily together?!?
And that's just the tip of the iceberg but I'll content myself if they'll answer to just those questions possibly without creating others.
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Horitsuba was really unfair, we got only Subaru's back,
I hoped to see Seishirou too...
Yes, that why I think they could have articulate the last chapters in other way.
They could just put a square with "??? years after",
show the little details and then give it a better ending.
I'm afraid that CLAMP will mess with them,
like....KILL one of them, or Subaru lose an eye too,
things connected with X.
Hmm, I think TRC Fuuma's wish is the same as X Fuuma,
only Kamui can make it true and we don't know what is it.
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Well, technically we also got 2 Seishiros, one who's the school doctor (I worry for the health of the students... wasn't he a veterinarian?) and one who taught Shaoran how to fight. As Shaoran is supposed to know who's the school doctor and doesn't say the school doctor taught him how to fight but 'a person named Seishiro' I assume we've two of them (Horitsuba has plenty of '2 of them' people) but the sad thing is they're only mentioned and don't show up at all.
Well, the only thing I can say in TRC defence is that often if one had it bad in another series, in Tsubasa had it better, though if he had it good in another series in Tsubasa had it worse... so hopefully they'll stay alive this time? That or it'll be Subaru who'll get killed... -_-
Well, but Fuma started to work to fulfil his wish before he met Kamui... though he might have changed it as Kobato did...
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Really? there are two of them? Thinking about it...so
that Subaru we saw in the was TRC!Subaru too? The TB/X
one isn't going to school because he doesn't have time for it.
Ohh no! Let's not think about Subaru dying,
let's wish they'll be safe and sound in this new saga.
True, true...
I was so happy when I read the last chapter of XxxHolic Rei,
everything was finally making sense!
Let's see what will happen next.
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Well, so it seems. I like to think there are only 2 Subaru in Horitsuba, the teenager one (inspired by the TRC Subaru and that's brother with Kamui and love interest of the Seishiro who taught Shaoran how to fight) and the X one who's older, with a twin sister (Hokuto) and an interest in a certain school doctor.
However it could be there 3 Subarus, TRC, TB & X so that the Seishiros can't chose which one they want (and if that's the case it'll be also fun if there's only one Seishiro) or 1 single Subaru, the one we saw... and the 2 Seishiros have to fight over who gets to have him...
But well, I tend to go with the theory 2 Subarus for 2 Seishiros... though I wouldn't mind 3 Subarus for 3 Seishiros... but I don't think the school would manage to survive to 3 Seishiros (TRC, TB & X)...
Let's hope so! But more important let's hope they'll show up and that something will be explained!
Let's wait and hope the pause xxxHOLiC Rei is taking is merely for waiting TRC to catch up... (but hadn't Watanuki already sent the guys home in xxxHOLiC? Why are they still wandering? Or is this supposed to be a story in between since Doumeki and Himawari are still around and young?)
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Certainly a school can't handle 3 Seishiros,
I bet they would kill each other if there was only one Subaru!
If each one has his own Subaru, everything would be fine, maybe...
Yep! Let's see it! Next month we'll discover everything. (I hope so)
I think it's another story, cause Watanuki said he couldn't
help them the first time, so this time we prepared to help them.
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LOL. Might be. I'll enjoy the scenes in which director Yuko scold them for distrupting the otherwise peaceful life at Horitsuba though... I would love to see some YUko/Seishiros interaction... possibly with in the background Subaru who tries to defend them claiming what they did wasn't so terrible and Kamui raging about the mess they did and how they dared to try to involve Subaru in it...
Well, although it would be nice if TRC were to start explaining something right from the first chapter (possibly the vampires! the vampires!) I'm not sure it'll did. However as CLAMP had inserted another bloodsucker creature in D&D it can be they plan to explain something more about them... hopefully... after all they said they liked the hunters and the vampires so... let's hope...
*sigh* we'll see. I'm trying to keep my hopes low (and failing) because I've already been disappointed rather badly so...
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That would be fun. Somehow I can imagine X Subaru bumping in TRC Subaru and being very confused.
Or who someday, X Subaru would come to the school to meet X Seishirou after his work as school nurse was finished for the day,
then they would bump into TRC Seishirou and Subaru, that would be interesting!
Yep. That creature in D&D Β was interesting, it looked like a demon, but I don't know if demons can predict the future.
Maybe it was some kind of vampire, or not, I clearly don't know xD
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The various Subarus and the various Seishiros would probably be all relatives as this seems to be the trend in Horitsuba. They have those weird families that produce kids that are one the mirror copy of the other and as if this wasn't troublesome enough they call them in exactly the same way... so at family meeting one says Sakura! and every girl in the family turn...
LOL, well I've my Horitsuba head canon but yes, I would love to see such scenes...
Me neither, I hate how CLAMP left it so vague they didn't even want to clarify what he was. Sometimes they just feel this need to... not explain and I'm just... uh? Is there a reason why you wouldn't explain this? Then the whole issue goes completely dropped and I remain "uh? so there was no reason? What was the problem then, didn't you like the explanation or didn't you bother making one?"
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Horitsuba is interesting because it's full of "what ifs".
You can lose yourself with all the headcanons.
Well, if that thing was a demon, Koryu or Hisui would have noticed, right?
Even if Hisui can only see a little in the future, but it appears that they don't
know or at least it didn't appeared in the manga yet.
Sometimes they don't explain cause it fit in the category
"Because the creators wanted to do it like that" and simply don't explain nothing.
That's unfair. Another exemple that CLAMP never explained was the fact
why Akira (Man of Many Faces) has two mothers and what happened with his father,
that really don't make sense to me and I'll never know it.
Or what happened with Subaru and Hokuto's parents, etc...
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*nods* Yes, Horitsuba should deserve more space!
I would think so but I'm not really sure what's going on in D&D. Somehow I can recognize Hisui in Kakei.
I disliked how they didn't explain it but I'll let it slide as long as Akira remained in his own absurd manga. The problem is when he was pushed in X at the tender age of 16 (yeah, they're high school students despite Nokoru being the principal... as Akira isn't Kamui's classmate I'll assume he's at least one year older... -_-) and X is a manga in which the absurd feels very out of place. Not mentioning how the didn't explain why Rarisa isn't he president anymore and refused to let Kamui met her or dropped the topic of Kamui's dad as if meaningless.
Just tell everyone would have done and be done with it, not drop the topic like that!
Oh, according to CLAMP Subaru and Hokuto's parents are alive and healty (they might be the people you see around Subaru's grandmother in X) but don't get mentioned because they aren't important... who cares if everyone thinks in this way they gave out the feelings they're orphans... who cares if Subaru never think at them but only at his grandmother, giving out the feeling they either don't exist or that he doesn't care about them. This isn't important to the plot... after all a character's background is pretty meaningless... -_- *groans*
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Maybe that part would've appeared in the manga if it had continued.
They clearly look older than 16,
or Kamui is just too short for his age! X became a tabu for CLAMP,
they Β gave us more questions than answers!
Really? I never knew that!If they're fine,
why isn't Subaru's father the lider of the Sumeragi?!
Things that I'll never know...
Oh, do you mind if I ask you these questions?
Do you think Seishirou is really dead?
If YOU could write the end of X, what it would be like?
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I'm not so sure about it. Very likely the reason why Rarisa was removed from her position is because she's a character of the time in which CLAMP was a doujinshi group and they created the whole Imonoyama family. Each group member created an Imonoyama.
Imonoyama Rarisa was created by a member which left the group and evidently she wasn't so happy with CLAMP using her ergo first they refused to show her face then they conveniently removed her out of the story.
The same fate befalled on Nokoru's many siblings which disappeared from the plot.
LOL, well Kamui is short but CLAMP in a sidestory confirmed Nokoru and CO are high school students. Since they all should be in the Z class (the special class for special students in CLAMP Gakuen) and Kamui is in the Z class and not with Akira, the youngest, Akira must be at least one year older.
CLAMP said so in an old interview. Well, that's easy because he (or his mother as we don't know who of the 2 is Sumeragi) likely didn't have power. If you're wondering why I'm assuming it's his mother who could be Sumeragi that's because in Japan the husband can end up taking his wife's surname and since the Sumeragi needed a heir, likely if Subaru's grandmother had a daughter, she demanded her husband would become a Sumeragi so that Subaru could be a Sumeragi as well.
Generally though a family head is always male but the Sumeragi likely are more interested in Onmyoudo power than in sex considering Subaru's grandmother was the previous head and she's the second person most powerful spiritually among the Sumeragi, coming only after Subaru.
CLAMP said that Seishiro was definitely dead in an interview. In TRC though they had Fay say that an eye would lose its magical power if it's owner were to die but as Fay was suicidal we'll never know if Fay has lied, they had revised their plans for 'eye power', they had revised their plans for Seishiro's survival, they hadn't realized they created a contraddiction, Seishiro's eye is just special like that.
LOL it's a difficult question!
Honestly I'm not really sure because I'm caught in between the ending I'd like (an happy one), the ending I think CLAMP has in mind (a sad one) and the ending that I think might work better to deliver a strong message (maybe not as sad as CLAMP or a different type of sad but rather likely not a happy ending).
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Ohh...you really knows a lot about CLAMP, I bet you are in this fandom for quite a time, right?
If I could write the end of X things would been turned this way:
Satsuki would die by beast's "hands"
Yuuto would survive, but after satsuki's death, he would give up Β the battler
Hinoto would kill herself, if she couldn't control her evil side.
Kakyou would die, then he could reach hokuto
Kusanagi would betray the DoE and helf yuzu
Kanoe is dead.
Sei is dead.
Aoki would re-marry his wife.
Karen would be his friend.
Yuzu and kusanagi would travel japan together.
Sorata wouldn't die, but he would end paraplegic after the battle.
Arashi would be with him and be happy.
Subaru would die protecting Kamui, then he could be with seishirou,they could be happy in the after life.
Kamui would Β pierce fuumas heart with his sword, but after that he would walk into his sword to join fuuma.
The two of them would archive their wish and kamui would create his kekkai and everything would be restored.
the world would be in peace, tadaaa~~ the end of X
I'm a cruel woman Β like clampΒ Β
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LOL, a lifetime but I blame my knowledge mostly on the fact when I strongly get into a fandom I start a chase for informations...
Well, your ending isn't cruel and it's also pretty similar to the anime with some small changes... whcih I fear influenced you because in the manga Aoki never divorced from his wife and Yuto was never much into the battle. The only two times he foughts were when Sorata discovered him and trapped him into his Kekkai and to save Nataku.
Though I apprecciate the changes you make at the anime, like Subaru being finally allowed to die and doing it protecting Kamui and Karen remaining alive and Aoki's friend.
I fear though CLAMP has something much more cruel and sad in mind... although I think in the end the world would survive and Tokyo would be rebuilt and a part of it would be called 'Tomoeda'... *CCS Op starts in this moment*
Which might be subtly confirmed by how in TRC Tokyo became the Clow country...
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If I had time I would've done it too, sadly I don't have that time D:
Yep, is influenced, I thought it fitted well as the ending.
I thought Aoki divorcing gave him even more appeal and made "possible" to ship him with Karen,
she was so in disillusioned the manga,
but I fear Aoki doesn't have any more time to get divorced,
so she'll stay as his friend.
Yuuto, hmmm...he was so apathetic,
I thought to give him some credit at least in the end.
Well, I can't compare to CLAMP in cruelty,
but I consider really cruel to kill Subaru,
even if it is the only way he can Β be "happy" again (with Seishirou really being dead),
but is better than being alive and forever sad and depressed with no wish to live or something to protect,
and that's why I felt cruel. He could protect Kamui in the same way
Hokuto protected him and be with Seishirou and Hokuto again in the after life.
The world would be spared, but I think Tomoeda already exist in that Tokio.
I don't remember if it had any Kekkai in it,
so it didn't suffer with the earthquakes, maybe?
And CCS would begin after that.Β Β
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Well, I did it in my spare time, of course so it wasn't as fast as I would have liked... still I ended up collecting interesting material.
Well, for me the manga theme was different from the theme the anime ending supported so, to get the same result the manga should go through a different way.
While I really wanted Karen to be happy, well, Aoki's soulmate is clearly his wife so I wish Karen could find someone else just for her. So far though CLAMP hand't suggested anyone as even in TRC she's single.
I've the feeling Yuto ended up this way due to Hagunsei Senki... but as Hagunsei Senki was dropped we'll never know what turned him this way.
Well, keeping Subaru alive and miserable to me feel more cruel than allowing him to die and possibly reincarnate and met Seishiro again. It would be different if Subaru could be happy but this would end up denying his whole character so... for me you'll be 'kind' by killing him.
Nope, Tomoeda is a fictional place created for Card Captor Sakura. It doesn't exist in Tokyo and, of course, it never gets mentioned in X in which the only fictional place mentioned is CLAMP Gakuen. If Tomoeda is in Tokyo (Card Captor Sakura never confirmed or denied this nor said Tokyo exists, it just says the tower we see in CCS is named 'Tokyo Tower'. It might be all that remains of Tokyo or it might be a replica build in a completely different place named as such for who knows which reason).
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*nods*
I hope I'll be able to do it too.
Maybe CLAMP made Karen to love Aoki from a distance,
in a platonic way, idk.
*nods*
Yes, is way better Subaru be able to die than live a
miserable and lonely life after X. After all he went through is really
sad that only in death he could be in peace.
Do you think CLAMP would show us if he could be happy after death?
ohhh they never said CCS was in Tokyo?
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Well, considering CLAMP likes soulmates and Aoki and Shimako seem to be soulmates I thought Karen could be for Aoki what Tomoyo is to Sakura... but TRC didn't confirm or deny it. The first Karen we see doesn't know Aoki and is single, the second knows an Aoki but they have basically no role so it's hard to judge.
It'll be nice though if Karen could have a person who would love her.
Well, since in CLAMP's world there's reincarnation, death for him could be a new start... as he can reincarnate and try again.
Honestly if CLAMP were to end X and kill Subaru in the process I don't know if they would show us Subaru's possible fate. Maybe they'll drop he now could be reincarnate. Maybe they'll just ignore the whole stuff to make things more tragic.
After all no one had looked at the reincarnation angle for Kotori or Saiki or Nataku's death. So it's really hard to say.
Nope. She's officially in Tomoeda, wherever Tomoeda might be as it's supposed to be a fictional place or... it could be Tokyo's new name after it was partially rebuilt.
Okay, that's just my speculation but I like the idea it might be true.
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