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liveaswedream [2017-07-27 01:45:51 +0000 UTC]

Stars breaking like waves upon a shore.

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AiniTolonen In reply to liveaswedream [2017-07-29 17:16:38 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

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goattoad [2017-07-26 16:31:54 +0000 UTC]

so much to say and i'm speechless, bravo!

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AiniTolonen In reply to goattoad [2017-07-29 17:17:10 +0000 UTC]

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undefinedreference [2017-07-16 17:38:01 +0000 UTC]

I was thinking of you the other day. I need to correct myself about what I wrote earlier, that time is the only thing that exists. Reality is like a balloon. When a child asks you for a balloon, they don't expect you to take one of those latex rubber thingies out of the packaging and hand it to them. While the manufacturer does call it a "balloon", to the child it doesn't have the meaning of a balloon yet. You have to inflate it first. Only then does it acquire the meaning of a balloon to the child. In _Reality_, the manufacturer's idea of a balloon, i.e. the material shaped in a particular form, are the physical constants and their relationships. They form a cold, harsh, senseless and meaningless kind of proto-reality outside us (-> Reality is not an illusion). We, as perceivers, inflate this balloon, i.e. give it a meaning, by projecting time into it. Without time nothing has any meaning, at least not a meaning we would understand.

Differently shaped latex thingies form differently shaped balloons after inflation. A "balloon" intended to become a tubular balloon after inflation will never become a round one. These represent "multiple universes". They are based on different values and configurations of physical constants. This is relatively boring.

What is really exciting however, is that perhaps some other type of perceiver would be able to project something different than time into the proto-reality out there. In that case this perceiver would see stuff we never could. Perhaps we could even teach ourselves to perceive Reality based on something other than time. I'm pretty sure the people in the Pentagon would be pretty interested in that

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AiniTolonen In reply to undefinedreference [2017-07-18 18:45:07 +0000 UTC]

Exciting idea, and reminds me of the concept of other dimensions, 5th, 6th and so on. Are you familiar with these ideas? Anyway, a very interesting mindplay.

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undefinedreference In reply to AiniTolonen [2017-07-20 12:23:38 +0000 UTC]

It's those other dimension that brought me here. Note that these are mathematical constructs, not to be confused with multiple/parallel universes. Math basically says that there is an axis that is perpendicular to the entire set of X, Y and Z axes, which is beyond common human imagination. And there is another axis that is perpendicular to all those axes in return, and another one and another one and so on. So in the mathematical view there's an infinite number of dimensions which we humans can't see.

I was thinking of a statement ascribed to Albert Einstein, that time is the 4th dimension, which I've always had a problem with. If he indeed ever made that statement, he probably meant that in his timespace model, time can be seen to act as the 4th dimension, for mathematical purposes.

It's fairly easy to imagine a perceiver with only a 0, 1 or 2-dimensional view of the world. The one with 0-dimensional perception is the most interesting: it will see itself as one with the Universe. It's even possible for two such systems to communicate with each other, but to each it will seem like it's talking to itself. Anyway, let's consider a perceiver with only a 2D view of the world, due to physical and mental limitations compared to ourselves. If we humans would see ourselves as flat objects existing on a plane which we would call the Universe, then Einstein might have come up with a theory about "timeplane" ("timeline" and "timepoint" are also conceivable, for 1 and 0D perception, respectively). And he might have stated that "time is the 3rd dimension". Which we know it isn't. So that's a strong argument against the 4th dimension thing.

A perhaps even stronger argument is the fact that time works the same way for all levels of perception: it adds meaning by allowing the perceiver to perceive a sequence of events. A perceiver with no sense of time is called an automat btw. It can indeed perceive events and interact with its environment, but only in an automatic and involuntary way. The introduction of a sense Β of time creates the perception of a sequential ordering. Without a sense of time the time between two events is undefined, which makes it rather difficult for a system to create a coherent view of what's going on "out there" (or inside itself for that matter). Time allow a system to defer its responses and as such introduces decision-making. The perceiver now becomes an observer. There's a lot of decision-making going on in observation: how long to keep observing, what to pay attention to and for how long. A lot of prioritizing too. And of course the decision about when to stop observing and to take some action. All of which is difficult to accomplish without an idea of time available. Even a 0D perceiver can make more sense of itself and its environment once some internal timer mechanism is added.

Just like the 2D perceiver can only perceive the world in 2D because of inherent limitations, there's no reason to not believe that we humans aren't hampered in a similar way by the way we're "constructed", and that in some future evolution of ourselves (or if we go extinct, in penguins for example) a jump towards 4D perception will be made, and then 5D and so on. I think the closest humans have come to seeing at least a hint of a 4th _spatial_ dimension so far was only recently at CERN, when researchers found that some particle seemed to move in "an extra direction". But don't ask me about the details

Finally, provided that there is indeed an infinite set of spacial dimensions, and since time seems to have the same effect for all of them, time can be seen as the ultimate dimension in an infinite set of dimensions. Which is a contradiction by "earthly" standards. That would mean that at least for us humans, with our time-based perception, time is the TRANSCENDENT component of Reality. Isn't that exciting?!

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TSHansen In reply to undefinedreference [2017-07-23 19:57:38 +0000 UTC]

I rarely comment, let alone commenting on a comment but that has to be one of the most amazing mental exersizes. i love
this ballon metaphore with proto reality, jsut gotta say wow!

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undefinedreference In reply to TSHansen [2017-07-27 19:34:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. This story has been developing in the back of my mind over the course of years, mostly during somewhat manic-ish periods, and often while gazing at an LCD screen displaying moving pictures at the other end of the room. It's always good to keep the back of your mind busy doing something

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AiniTolonen In reply to undefinedreference [2017-07-20 19:34:15 +0000 UTC]

I like this "time is the transcendent component of reality". ThatΒ΄s what poetry is telling us in other words.
Hmm, maybe IΒ΄m brought here from those other dimensions too? Could explain much.

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undefinedreference In reply to AiniTolonen [2017-07-27 19:30:34 +0000 UTC]

Time is nothing but the perception of change. In order to perceive change in the world outside a perceiving system, like ourselves, must have some internal thing to match the changes against: a timer. I've been wondering what that timer inside ourselves could be. There's the 30 Hz brain waves that steer our visual system, but there are problems with that. It seems to be only a derivative of something more fundamental. [skip tons of details] The best candidate I've come across so far comes from Taoism I believe. It's like an internal river that flows inside each and every one of us, and can be seen, or at least experienced, through deep meditation. It reminds me a lot the spiral you saw. It has a flow rate rather than a frequency, which solves some issues (a.o. it offers continuity).

We humans, like all biological life, are very much oriented outwards, because that's where all the threats and goodies are. It's this constantly keeping track of external time that distracts us from our inner timer. I believe that great art somehow manages to intercept the interface between the inner and outer world, and can make it seem to us as if (external) time stands still, which allows us to connect with our internal time. Poetry is a very powerful tool in this respect, because it focuses very much on the here and now, I mean the here and now of the reader, while reading the poem. I don't think many people who read poetry worry much about how the poem they're reading will end or what will happen next, as would be the case with books and films. I have to say I personally prefer literature that is about the words and not so much about the story.

Another good time-stopper apparently is counterpoint music, which makes sense because it creates the illusion of a standing wave, an up-and-down motion rather than a forward one. Bach fans often say that when they listen to his music it's as if time stands still, which they obviously enjoy very much, or else they would stop being Bach fans. But I think it's the common denominator of all truly great artworks. To reconnect us with that river inside, if only for a few brief moments.

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EvaPolly [2017-07-16 15:16:58 +0000 UTC]

A crashing wave I see..Β 

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AiniTolonen In reply to EvaPolly [2017-07-16 19:31:45 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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EintoeRn [2017-07-14 08:22:17 +0000 UTC]

... a day at the beach ! awesome, indeed !

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AiniTolonen In reply to EintoeRn [2017-07-14 09:11:51 +0000 UTC]

thanks, dear Ulrich!

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DeTea [2017-07-13 01:26:36 +0000 UTC]

This is an awesome abstract!

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AiniTolonen In reply to DeTea [2017-07-13 19:38:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, Doug!

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HalfFormedThoughts [2017-07-10 20:42:53 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful

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AiniTolonen In reply to HalfFormedThoughts [2017-07-10 21:23:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, dear Bo!

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Yaksss [2017-07-10 10:47:40 +0000 UTC]

Β Β Β Β Β !!!!

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AiniTolonen In reply to Yaksss [2017-07-10 21:24:04 +0000 UTC]

!

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gonzogirl66 [2017-07-10 06:15:45 +0000 UTC]

This is gorgeous I would to campout out in that painting

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AiniTolonen In reply to gonzogirl66 [2017-07-10 16:30:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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GabiWieczorek [2017-07-10 05:52:33 +0000 UTC]

niceΒ 

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AiniTolonen In reply to GabiWieczorek [2017-07-10 16:31:24 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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chriseastmids [2017-07-10 03:08:26 +0000 UTC]

very nice work QOA

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AiniTolonen In reply to chriseastmids [2017-07-10 16:31:40 +0000 UTC]

thanks dear Chris!

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chriseastmids In reply to AiniTolonen [2017-07-10 17:47:50 +0000 UTC]

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OFaia [2017-07-09 22:44:14 +0000 UTC]

You are amazing...great eye..

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AiniTolonen In reply to OFaia [2017-07-10 16:32:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot!

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Arawn-Photography [2017-07-09 19:34:59 +0000 UTC]

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AiniTolonen In reply to Arawn-Photography [2017-07-09 19:41:19 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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