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Customer review:

"Working with Ajder was an acceptable first experience with commissions. His lineart skill is undeniable and he was very keen in satisfying my wishes in the final lineart. For the first sketch I gave him very rough indications and a sketch of my own. When he sent me the results I realized that sending him my own sketch was a pretty bad idea and I instead gave him a very thorough verbal description with many examples, as well as very specific
requirements for the drawing, for example: thicker talons, more bird-like feet, more surreal background (with link to a certain movie trailer included), elements to compose the scene, smooth line from the dragon's muzzle to the forehead (instead of a head with a protruding muzzle), etc.

The second sketch he made was an outstanding realization of my requirements, he certainly exceeded my expectations as I didn't think he was going to immediately capture all I wanted to see in a single scene, but he did. And after that it was all simple incremental improvements over the same scene.

I can say that the greatest downside of interacting with Ajder was his very negative attitude, but I think anyone who is reading this understand how he's feeling.

As for the coloring, I asked Ajder to do it with real media instead of digitally because I don't like the bland, textureless look of his digital painting (others may disagree). He performed to my expectations, with a very good looking graphite shading (I don't really miss the colors).

Regrettably, after all of these iterations some of the magic in the scene was lost. While very skilled at doing the lineart, and definitely very good at apturing what I expected of him given my descriptions, I think he didn't pay enough attention to certain key details. For example, the small dragon is a KEY part of the image, starting from the fact that the title references him (Black and White, white being the shiny dragon). If I had been him, I'd have paid much attention to getting the small dragon to look very detailed and beautiful even if he covers a proportionally small area of the entire scene, and to care his expression really conveys what it's meant to convey (he should look startled), because he is important. But Ajder didn't do that. Regardless, I'm not going to ask him to change the scene, as I promised him he'd have free reign over the shading and I would accept the final piece just as it was, without asking for changes.

After all, I feel I got my money's worth (or almost) with just the lineart, the shading being just icing and cherry on the cake (that's why I didn't want to annoy him anymore with changes, you should see how many itty bitty modifications I asked for before the lineart was ready).

There was another thing that annoyed me though, and it is that the rights the commissioner has over the piece of art he pays for. Ajder should be more clear in his commissions page (I've already told him so). For example, he should state if one has the right to publish a modified version (for xample, recolored) of the commissioned work, or the type of file one receives, etc. He doesn't seem familiar with image formats either, so that could be grounds for some friction later. Myself, I think I deserve a lossless high-res version of the image for my personal use, so I pestered him for one, and insisted it be .PNG, because it's lossless ; )

Overall an acceptable/good experience, with very few downsides related to the art, which was well executed and sometimes outstanding. The downsides being related to other details separate from the technique.

I would recommend others to commission this artist. "
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Comments: 44

caroline0neill [2014-06-09 19:59:16 +0000 UTC]

featured here because it's awesome carolinesphotos.deviantart.com…  I read through the description and realise it's a comission but still love it 

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Finsterdrache [2012-09-19 18:46:37 +0000 UTC]

a wunderfull picture. I think it was a lot of work, but it looks very great.

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ajder In reply to Finsterdrache [2012-12-18 16:12:55 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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zeto [2010-12-21 04:38:29 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is really, really good!

The details and the lightning effects are really good for the eyes. Lots of details int he background which doesn't get tiring.

Really, really nice.

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ajder In reply to zeto [2011-01-03 15:54:29 +0000 UTC]

thankyou, I appreciate it.

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densadororiginal [2010-12-17 10:36:25 +0000 UTC]

it's briliant

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ajder In reply to densadororiginal [2010-12-18 02:51:12 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Ritoku [2010-08-19 04:49:14 +0000 UTC]

Wow there are so many details and the shading is amazing! Good job!

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ajder In reply to Ritoku [2010-08-19 10:30:03 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Ritoku In reply to ajder [2010-08-19 23:58:08 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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mynameismyname777 [2010-08-18 22:31:34 +0000 UTC]

Gewd Jorb.

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ajder In reply to mynameismyname777 [2010-08-18 23:21:58 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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dragoneh [2010-08-17 18:55:13 +0000 UTC]

what is that small thing?

great pic btw

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ajder In reply to dragoneh [2010-08-18 04:18:44 +0000 UTC]

small dragon.

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dragoneh In reply to ajder [2010-08-18 04:25:45 +0000 UTC]

AWW THATS CUTE! is it a hatchling

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ajder In reply to dragoneh [2010-08-18 07:25:23 +0000 UTC]

not really... just a small dragon.

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dragoneh In reply to ajder [2010-08-18 14:20:00 +0000 UTC]

just a small dragon lol okay

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Pentalis In reply to dragoneh [2010-08-30 04:38:59 +0000 UTC]

Not really. It's a normal dragon. The big dragon is just too big ;>

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dragoneh In reply to Pentalis [2010-08-31 00:29:53 +0000 UTC]

i see nice

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DrAgOnOfFoReSt [2010-08-17 18:50:14 +0000 UTC]

Wow, light and shadow in perfect balance!
Genial job.

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ajder In reply to DrAgOnOfFoReSt [2010-08-18 04:18:51 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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DrAgOnOfFoReSt In reply to ajder [2010-08-24 20:49:51 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome!

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JOKERSHADOW666 [2010-08-17 13:57:37 +0000 UTC]

Great work

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ajder In reply to JOKERSHADOW666 [2010-08-17 14:05:52 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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JOKERSHADOW666 In reply to ajder [2010-08-17 14:06:03 +0000 UTC]

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insideClaw [2010-08-17 12:34:34 +0000 UTC]

Very nice, didnt notice how much detail it has before i zoomed in.

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ajder In reply to insideClaw [2010-08-17 14:06:01 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Freakuha [2010-08-17 05:06:13 +0000 UTC]

Wow, the lighting from the baby dragon is very well done! I always have trouble with the way light casts shadows and where I should have light shining.

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ajder In reply to Freakuha [2010-08-17 07:26:57 +0000 UTC]

I do too... it's an incredibly tricky process figuring out where light would shine and where it wouldn't. And I ofthen don't get it right either specially when you try to take in to account things like reflected light... oh boy.

Anyways, thanks for the comment.

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Freakuha In reply to ajder [2010-08-18 03:02:31 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, I know what you mean! And you are welcome. I try to comment on everything I add to my favorites because it really bothers me when people just add my artwork and don't comment.

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ajder In reply to Freakuha [2010-08-18 04:18:20 +0000 UTC]

I don't like it either... saddly it seems I'm a hypocrit because whille I don't like it when people don't comment on my stuff I rarelly find the time to comment on others' stuff...

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Freakuha In reply to ajder [2010-08-18 22:18:04 +0000 UTC]

Sometimes I am weeks behind with comments that I need to reply to, so it's all good haha.

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ajder In reply to Freakuha [2010-08-18 23:21:29 +0000 UTC]

I have 8.000 submissions that I haven't seen yet...

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Freakuha In reply to ajder [2010-08-19 23:31:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh jeez! That is a lot... O_O

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drago-w [2010-08-17 03:58:00 +0000 UTC]

that is impressively detailed

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ajder In reply to drago-w [2010-08-17 07:25:47 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Ladyeternalflame [2010-08-17 00:55:12 +0000 UTC]

beautiful, the details are amazing, great shading. That dragon is huge!

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ajder In reply to Ladyeternalflame [2010-08-17 03:04:05 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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The-Bluetip [2010-08-17 00:31:27 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful work. Love the bright light towards the central focus of the image and the details are fantastic. I love the scales and that pose...really nice work. Faving!

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ajder In reply to The-Bluetip [2010-08-17 03:04:23 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Beast3 [2010-08-16 19:07:25 +0000 UTC]

oh wow. awesome datails!

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ajder In reply to Beast3 [2010-08-17 03:04:31 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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Pentalis [2010-08-16 18:53:49 +0000 UTC]

I exist in DA too!

Awesome job there

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ajder In reply to Pentalis [2010-08-17 03:04:43 +0000 UTC]

Fixed.

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