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Published: 2015-11-08 21:58:26 +0000 UTC; Views: 11513; Favourites: 108; Downloads: 13
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Description And neither do I, original Simba. Neither do I.   

Inspired after finally getting a closer look at Simba's appearance in The Lion Guard, I made this as sort of an expression for how I feel towards his apparent redesign in the show. To put it simply, I don't know what the hell happened. In the first promo image we saw of him, Simba actually looked pretty good. (Which you can see here):

www.eonline.com/news/685537/ro…

I didn't realistically expect them to use his TLKII look, so he looked fine for what I did expect. But then some time later, we got this screenshot from the TV movie: 

vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/p…

And then we got the most recent TV spot for it as well, where we see Simba more clearly in motion:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwxT4…

I just don't know what happened, he looks completely different between the first two pictures. I know lots of people like to say that Simba looks like crap in The Lion King II, and that his design looks off-model there. But this is almost a completely different ballpark than that case. From what I see, Simba's cheeks are way too wide (making him look fatter than ever), his snout/muzzle is too thin, his eyes look too large, and the upper part of his mane is far smaller than it should be. I don't know how or why he looks anything like this in the show.   

My only guess is that they tried to make Simba look "cuter" to better appeal to The Lion Guard's younger intended audience. But what confuses me there is that, while Simba appears off-model, Nala and Kiara both look just fine. Nala looks all right, albeit a tad thicker in the muzzle, and Kiara looks damn near spot-on. So why such a radical change to Simba?   

And just to make this clear while I can: No, this is not "Lion Guard hate art" in case any hypersensitive Tumblr people see this and take it out of context. I'm still extremely excited about The Lion Guard, fully intend to see it, and am going into it with completely open mind. I still have  lot of hope that it can be really good.  But even with that, I genuinely can't say I agree with Simba's new design in the show. I don't know, maybe it'll grow on me one of these days. Who knows? But until it does, I'm going to have a lot of fun making fun of the design as mercilessly as I can.  
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aditibujju [2022-01-18 08:38:02 +0000 UTC]

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JoshuaGutierrez [2021-01-08 10:09:02 +0000 UTC]

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FluffyKratt [2020-05-18 11:55:06 +0000 UTC]

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Gracey-of-harmony [2019-09-01 05:56:20 +0000 UTC]

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Big-bad-Rocket [2017-10-22 23:14:16 +0000 UTC]

Very well drawn. Your pic I mean. Yes very well made.

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Nyota-Samafi [2017-10-18 07:04:38 +0000 UTC]

I think Lion Guard's character design style is similar to Jake and the Neverland Pirates. Simba's body is very short. His face is quite childish. The worst thing is his feet. They are like erasers. It's even worse when he's moving.

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JustSomeGuy420 [2017-07-27 10:29:42 +0000 UTC]

While I'll admit that Simba's Lion Guard design looks weird, I'll never understand why people hated his Simba's Pride design. I'm guessing it has something to do with his colors. I was never really affected by the colors of that movie. Sure the colors looked radically different from the first movie, but I was never fazed by the colors in the second movie. I'm sure if people saw past the different color design, they'd actually think that Simba aged nicely since the first movie and actually looks really good.

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Big-bad-Rocket In reply to JustSomeGuy420 [2017-10-22 23:18:27 +0000 UTC]

Here, here. I just don't see what people have against TLK2 Simba. He looked fine to me.

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to JustSomeGuy420 [2017-09-11 03:16:19 +0000 UTC]

The general color scheme of Simba's Pride is... questionable at best, but Simba still looks like his old self in it. Still with The Lion Guard could've done the same.  

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Ratwo619 [2016-02-08 12:17:40 +0000 UTC]

When I was young I thought the weather makes Simba in LK2 darker but I don't care if they are different or not because everyone like me has its own selves from different dimensions, worlds and universes. And this song will help www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKjsfZ…

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Ratwo619 [2016-02-08 22:41:34 +0000 UTC]

The weather seems somewhat plausible color-wise, but it's Simba's physical look in The Lion Guard that I still kind of question. Oh well. And nice choice of song! Just when I managed to get it out of my head, too... XD

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huntress-16 [2016-01-28 20:32:36 +0000 UTC]

lmao 
This is perfect

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to huntress-16 [2016-01-28 22:35:55 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thanks! Glad the idea of it got across.

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LionMew [2016-01-01 22:40:55 +0000 UTC]

TBH I like both Simbas, I just hate the Simba from the second lion king. Just my opinion.

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to LionMew [2016-01-01 22:51:33 +0000 UTC]

That's fine, nothing wrong with that.   I just kind of thing Simba from the second movie gets too much of a bum rep, I don't personally see why so many people have that much of an issue with his design there.  

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LionMew In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2016-01-02 18:31:29 +0000 UTC]

Aye. I also think his body and mane too, well, my only problem with LG Simba is is huge eyebrows and eyes. xD

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MikeBennett1980 [2015-11-23 02:21:05 +0000 UTC]

Nice work!

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to MikeBennett1980 [2015-11-23 02:28:03 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you!

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MikeBennett1980 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-23 02:33:52 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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Maddi-Sans [2015-11-22 21:07:26 +0000 UTC]

I think his design looks adorable ^w^ But then again, maybe I'm just saying that because my drawing style of lions has wide, fluffy cheeks.

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Maddi-Sans [2015-11-22 22:59:42 +0000 UTC]

Only time will tell.

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Coreyinthehouse [2015-11-21 22:51:07 +0000 UTC]

Didn't mean to favorite it, don't take offense to me un-favoring it, the art is great,
I just don't agree with it, I like his new design, that's all. XP

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Coreyinthehouse [2015-11-22 01:00:36 +0000 UTC]

That's all right, I understand.  

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Coreyinthehouse In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-22 01:02:02 +0000 UTC]

^^

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Pootisman90 [2015-11-13 18:41:25 +0000 UTC]

Well, maybe its like Transformers: Rescue Robots with Optimus Prime. In PRIme, he is nearly identical to the movie Prime. In RB, he looks like armada. Right?

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Pootisman90 [2015-11-13 20:51:16 +0000 UTC]

I've never seen Transformers: Rescue Robots, so I couldn't say.

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Pootisman90 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-13 21:19:19 +0000 UTC]

Well, instead of Dcepeticons, the ´bots are assigned to protect an island full of eggheads... Hey, now that i think about it, what if the preds and the maximals landed on the Pride Lands? (after adquiring their beast modes thats it)

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Pootisman90 [2015-11-13 22:13:17 +0000 UTC]

That'd certainly be... interesting.

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Pootisman90 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-14 04:42:19 +0000 UTC]

yeah, but since they are actually "people" that transform into animals... "what about the "microbots"?

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Pootisman90 [2015-11-14 04:56:39 +0000 UTC]

Weren't microbots a Big Hero 6 thing?

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Pootisman90 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-14 05:25:14 +0000 UTC]

nah, i mean, well, Ravage, Ramhorn, Ratbat, Laserbeak... the ones that are animals that transform into small stuff. And SKy lynx

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Pootisman90 [2015-11-14 05:36:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm not too familiar with Transformers in general. I don't know what any of that is.

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Pootisman90 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-14 05:54:25 +0000 UTC]

ANimal-sized robots that look that animals that are animals that transform into casettes thrown out by the lt. officers of each faction. And Sky-Lynx is a dragon with a shuttle mode that can divide into a pterosaur and a lynx

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Pootisman90 [2015-11-14 14:08:03 +0000 UTC]

That sounds pretty cool.

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Pootisman90 In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-14 14:17:12 +0000 UTC]

Yep

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Impious-Imp [2015-11-09 05:29:53 +0000 UTC]

Flash animation does funny things.

Personally?  It's close enough for me and I'm not planning on mincing details.  Seems like a waste of time to me.  BUT THAT IS JUST ME.

I have waaaaay too much stuff on my plate too worry about right now that hashing it out over details on a children's cartoon that I am so totally going to watch even if I'm 7 times older than the target audience...

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Impious-Imp [2015-11-09 11:31:54 +0000 UTC]

Understandible. I know Kion is the main focus of the show and not Simba, so I see where you're coming from. I can't say I'm necessarily angry over the new look myself, this drawing was mostly done to make light fun of it. I'm more annoyed than I am mad, really. Still, I think it's a hell of a lot of fun to mock the new look in this way.  

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Impious-Imp In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-09 15:19:47 +0000 UTC]

I think it's just a style thing.

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Anyahs [2015-11-09 02:02:50 +0000 UTC]

Color wise I still prefer him over SP simba... for now. So far, Promo's and art work (like the art book) have better depictions of Simba VS the animation. I don't believe Simba will even be in it much after the Movie special so I'm not overly torn up about it. Could be worse... he could be even more off looking like Fuli. 

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Anyahs [2015-11-09 02:39:04 +0000 UTC]

I look forward to getting that book once I see Return of the Roar, so I have hope that Simba would look a little better there. Good to hear that he likely does. Truthfully, I can't say I'm really all that angry or enraged about Simba's redesign in the show. It's more of just simple annoyance and/or frustration than anger for me. As different as he looks, I don't think it's really something worth any loss of sleep over. This whole thing was just draw for fun, really.   

It took me a while to get used to Fuli's design, but I can say I'm used to it by now. She looks okay. Not great, but not horrible either. Her look I can live with, although I can definitely see and understand why it's getting the criticism it is. (I can at least agree that she looks WAY too thin.)

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Anyahs In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-09 02:48:22 +0000 UTC]

I got it and really, there aren't any spoilers in it that we haven't already seen in the trailers, so if you don't want to wait, you can go ahead and get it. I was hoping for some additional goodies but I suppose I better wait until later XD I will say Simba looks almost 100% like his old self except the occasional mane looking a little too much like Mufasa's in some scenes. That, and for some reason they had a hard time with Timon and Pumba's design! It comes out of nowhere honestly lol 

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Anyahs [2015-11-09 03:13:06 +0000 UTC]

In that case, I might just get the book sooner now.   The less I know about Return of the Roar's plot before seeing it, the better. As for Timon and Pumbaa, they look all right to me. Timon looks a little off, but I can forgive his look since it's nothing too major. Personally, I'm more interested in how/why they managed to adopt Bunga as a "son".   

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Anyahs In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-09 03:49:26 +0000 UTC]

yeah none of that is in there, so you're good to go. Literally everything we've seen, be it from the producers or from trailers... it's in the book. I can't think of a single thing that spoils anything. In fact, I wish there were more details XD Oh! We do learn that Mzingo is the vulture and not a hyena, but it was like "Mzingo flies to Janja in the outlands." 

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Anyahs [2015-11-09 04:01:20 +0000 UTC]

Huh, so that's who Mzingo is. I didn't think that vulture would be a major character, interesting move. I look forward to seeing what he's capable of now.

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Impious-Imp In reply to AlphaRain-Official [2015-11-09 05:32:07 +0000 UTC]

oh my god neeeeerds.

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to Impious-Imp [2015-11-09 11:26:07 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you, we try.

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valued-vestige [2015-11-09 01:26:37 +0000 UTC]

I have no qualms with how Simba looked in the Timon and Pumbaa show -- though, in regards to seriousness, Lion Guard wins it ten-fold. ... But yeah ... it *is* strange that Simba is the only one that gets this radical change from the original: he looked different in SP, was fine in T&P show, and now LG. It's the eyebrows. If they would've thinned them out, he would look a lot better than he does. 

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AlphaRain-Official In reply to valued-vestige [2015-11-09 01:32:42 +0000 UTC]

The eyebrows definitely stuck out to me as well. But personally, it's the enlarged cheeks and the thinned out muzzle that are bothering me the most. Hell, when I was drawing this, it almost felt like I was drawing a completely different character entirely when I got to his TLG look.

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Viperwolfgirl217 [2015-11-09 00:25:43 +0000 UTC]

I still think he looks better than Simba from SP

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Wolf-Chalk [2015-11-08 23:03:49 +0000 UTC]

To be fair, Simba is hard as balls to get right, even Simba's Pride seemed to struggle with him. Least he's not purple~

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