SkunkyArt | Amenoosa — Goku vs Superman

Superman is stronger. Unlike Superman, Goku never showed his strength aside from punching. Sure, he lifted a 52 ton boulder, but even after the SSJ transformations, that is no close to Superman who has lifted infinity (he still lifted the book) at the most and the planet at the least. As for punching, Superman can punch planets apart with the IMP while Goku has shown no such strength.

Superman is faster. Again, Superman has had recorded feats while Goku does not. You claim the "grabbing the sunglasses" thing makes him FTL, but I have seen The Flash from the CW series go as fast if not faster, and he hadn't broken mach 2. Superman flew from Vega, the brightest star in the Lyra constellation, to Earth within minutes. The event was Lightray crashing on earth 4436749-pvksnt7.jpg (1280×1920) 4436750-jdpjyt3.jpg (1280×1920) Even if it was 10 minutes, Superman flew over 1 million times faster than light. Goku barely breaks Mach 1, otherwise, everything in the area would be blown away from the tailwind. Hell, Barry Allen once moved so fast that no one could see him, but Superman still could see him! Meaning unlike Goku who only reacts fast enough to see plasma based attacks ( Film Theory: What IS the Dragon Ball Z Kamehameha Wave?) Superman can react faster than the fastest man alive! He even survived and escapes a double Black Hole, and escapes it by going light speed against its pull.

Goku is dumber. Superman can process information at a speed that Goku cannot comprehend, uses the advanced technologies of Krypton, and Goku cannot drive a car! You claim Goku is a “Combat genius”, but it never happened. He STILL let Frieza ascend to his full power, he STILL sent Gohan to fight Cell, he STILL let Buu destroy the planet and saved Dende and Hercule instead of his sons! And his strategy for beating all of them is “blow them up with stronger blasts”! To hammer in how Goku is a moron, sending in Gohan to fight Cell was stupid because (as Piccolo put it) “Gohan may have that power but it doesn't matter. He doesn't thirst for battle and mayhem. He's not a fighter like you!” “Do you want to know what he's thinking? He's not thinking about strength or about competition! He's wondering why his father is standing there letting him die! And so your son may be the most powerful person in the world but he's also a scared eleven year old boy!” Even Vegeta realises this was moronic. The only one who stepped in was the emotionless android! Superman figures out how to beat the villains with as little bloodshed as possible, as shown with the likes of Mr Mxyzptlk where Superman beats him by tricking the imp to say his name backwards multiple times! He had to deal with super intelligent beings such as Darkseid, Lex and Braniac on a regular basis, not to mention a wider range of villains, which makes him more experienced in combat with his eidetic memory. Superman also doesn’t have the one limit Goku wouldn’t break: “fighting fair”, as he would fly to the sun for a boost.

Superman in general. He can breath in space, vibrate his molecules to phase through attacks and has survived much more dangerous events than Goku ever would. If the fight does somehow go in Goku’s favour, Superman can still heal from the sun and get stronger from it. Goku has never been invincible, he has very clear limits and must overcome those limits to solve the problems at hand. On the other hand, Superman’s story is not about the fight to become the best, but of an immigrant facing the challenge of home versus heritage. After accepting his alien side, Superman has reached his full potential, which under the endless power of the sun is essentially limitless. In short, “Superman is as strong as he needs to be.” So what happens when you pit a man with the power to break any limits against another who has no limits in the first place? Well, only one has limits to give at all.

Any fight would not be like the Death Battle. Especially since Goku would be the one picking the fight (Superman doesn’t fly into Lexcorp and ask Lex to punch him), Goku would also have to deal with other Metropolis heroes such as Supergirl, and everyone would see Goku as the villain as no one would fight Superman and be the good guy. Superman would get some form of equipment to deal with Goku and he would win.

Goku is boring! All he does is train, no end goal in mind! Superman tries to help everyone, he wants the world to be a better place, but he wants to help people realise they're better than any levels they feel like they have to stoop. You want to know why he doesn't just kill Lex? Because people would fear him! Goku gets away with murder because no one is around to see it, someone else takes credit or everyone conveniently forgets!

Superman inspires hope to all who he meets and helps. He has the power to take the entire world for his own but doesn't because he respects and cares for humanity, his sacrifice made the real world news and left a big hole to fill to the point where he had FOUR successors, he doesn't always go the fisticuffs rout and uses his intelligence to solve problems he tries to help everyone despite what they did. His family coat of arms MEANS hope for crying out loud!

I know people say that he risks lives by not "luring the villains away", but when would superpowered beings that hate him and either want to make a quick buck, kill him or both comply? Not only that, but pretty much everyone in DB/Z who were dissociated with Goku DIED at least once.

Want proof of how great a guy he is? All Star Superman. He hasn't long left to live and he spends his time well. He gives Lois the best birthday ever (also saved her by solving an unsolvable riddle because two time travelling lugheads angered an uber-powerful being), he restores the Kandorians who were shrunken by Braniac, he saved two Kryptonians from Kryptonite poisoning even after they tried to kill him and saved the day one last time from Luthor and Solaris before diving into the sun to fix it. I am leaving some stuff out as it wasn't in the animated movie, but there is one scene in the comic that shows that he is who I say he is. Superman may be capable of moving billions of tons, flying through space, and creating life out of nothing, yet he still takes the time to stop a single teen girl from committing suicide. And she wasn't alone *. He died a hero, Goku died twice as a clod because he underestimated his opponents.

I don't like Superman, I respect Superman. He is the best hero out there. Goku is someone who doesn't even care about the problems in the world. He fights Frieza, Cell and Buu because he wants a fight. It is nearly sickening to say the least. Think I am just speaking out of my ass? Goku sends Gohan to fight Cell EXPECTING him to just beat him. Piccolo explains that Gohan is just a kid and isn't a fighter. Goku endangered his son because of a hunch that could easily happen if Goku continued fighting and 16 saved him. All of that was AFTER Goku gave Cell a Senzu! Even before that, he claimed he couldn't do it because he would be wasting his time in the HTC. News flash, he mastered Super Saiyan two within eight years ... ALONG WITH SUPER SAIYAN THREE! The Kid Buu fight is just as bad, he claimed he could've easily beat Buu if he did it at the beginning of the fight, as seen here!

I hate Goku because he is an idiot, not because he is uneducated, but because he constantly makes decisions that don't just end lives, but do so multiple times.