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Oh Sev... if only you hadn't let your teen angst get the better of you? You wouldn't have to spend your evenings grading stupid kids' schoolwork!I really liked the idea I had on entry #8 here: [link] and decided to take off with it. Yes I draw Severus the Educator with facial hair. At this time of the night, his 5:00 shadow is all too conspicuous!
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Yes, the man was born to hold a Romeo Y Julieta in one hand and a glass of the Glenlivet in the other. 
As for the facial hair, I draw him with a bit of a soul patch/goatee in his teaching years and a light 5:00 shadow during the Death Eater years. But this image takes place late in the evening, so his stubble has grown out a bit.
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Poor Snape. Making him teach thick first year students was a terrible punishment!
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No she did not.
Not once has he ever been described with facial hair in the books. And not once have any of her original sketches included him with facial hair.
The only instance of Snape with facial hair is in the US version of HP illustrations by Mary grand pre. She drew him balding with facial hair even though it was never once said that he was balding or with facial hair.
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J.K. Rowling did this illustration ([link] ) of Snape, which she showed in her interview of "Harry Potter and Me". As you can see, Snape clearly has facial hair.
I said J.K. Rowling IMAGINED Snape with facial hair, meaning that's how she saw him in her head. I never said that's how he was described in the books. Since the books NEVER mention whether he shaves or not, either way can be considered book canon.
I found your reply on my profile really disrespectful. I'm a huge fan of the books and asserting that I didn't "read them properly" is quite honestly insulting.
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If you get so offended so easily then perhaps the Internet is not for you.
I have met so many people who say shit about this series and characters with no proof what so ever, in fact its super common. So its nothing personal, but when I see something that looks suspicious then I will call bull unless proven otherwise.
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Yeah, but you can call bull without sounding like a pretentious know-it-all.
It's your tone that dissatisfied me more than anything, that and your implication that I can't read properly.
And I know how bad the internet can get; but I don't usually encounter that nastiness in deviantart. I really like this community and so far the only people I have encountered here that insult me are low-grade trolls anyway. You don't seem to be one, so I thought I would tell you straight up that I don't like the tone you're taking with me.
We can have a discussion about the books and the vision of Rowling without having to get angry.
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You cant convey tone over the internet, at 24 you should know this.
I'm not angry, you are assuming I am, which is fine I guess. If I was trolling you then I wouldnt bother using common sense or logic, I'd just spam.
I'm guessing you haven't seen the front page and the vaginas have you? Or the penises, or the cam whores or even the pedophilia have you?
Believe me when I say this: there are way worse people out there on this site then me, like way worse.
You are one of the few lucky ones who haven't been....defiled. I envy you.
I used to love is site too but after 4 years it broke me, such a shame too.
Anyways enough of the insane ramblings of a crazy cat lady, I do love discussing snape a lot and yes I will try to write nicer? Wanna talk over on my page?
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I'm not offended by nudity or sexuality, in fact I think erotica is an art form of its own; but that's another entirely different discussion we can have another time. (Pedophilia? When? I have honestly never seen this on dA)
I agree it's hard to know who is being sarcastic or honest over text. That's why one must take a lot of care into the choice of words you use. The "you haven't read the books well" comment jumped at me because I'm currently reading the seventh book for the third time. I can honestly say I STUDY Harry Potter.
I honestly don't care where we have a Severus Snape conversation, we could continue here.
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I'm talking spread vaginas with fluids and no artistic value at all. I'm referring to porn.
You haven seen pedophilia yet? Wow you must be kinda new here.
I study harry potter too. I have every book (British version), I have every movie, every movie book that has come out and I have psychologically evaluated over many years, each and every chraracter. Oh and then theres the talks, and the fact that I know literally everything there is to know about every character, rule, school rule, spell, item and the laws of transfiguration.
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I've been on dA for four years and I have never seen pedophilia on the front page. I'm sure it's in this site somewhere, but I don't go looking for it.
Hey, you actually sound the person I would love to talk to. I keep trying to have conversations about Snape on Harry Potter forums, but nobody cares or they are really rude. Some people don't even want to talk about Harry Potter at all
And I can't get into Pottermore
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Ohhh okay, yeah, don't look for it. Ugh.
Potter more is down for matenince at the moment. Hey! What house are you in and what is your username? I have a potter more too and I love adding friends.
I am open to most things about snape but I have my limits. But if you want to talk then we shall talk and we can alk about anything regarding snape. I promise I wont judge, unless you bring up snarry (uck) then I will judge you. Lol.
Brb, I'm gonna get a sub sammach from subway.
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Oh when I said I can't get into Pottermore I meant literally! Meaning I don't even have an account
I want one though!
Well I'm writing two fanfictions about Snape and I'm trying to get into his psyche; trying to understand him.
Why would he join the Death Eater if his devotion to Lily was so devoted to her that almost twenty years after her death she was still his number one person?
What could Voldemort possibly offer him?
Did Snape really have disdain towards Muggles? I don't think this is really explored enough in the books. If he didn't like Muggles, then he was in some sort of denial about Lily's origins and if he didn't care (which I think is more likely), then he needs a deeper motivation to become a Death Eater.
I also want to explore his parents. Tobias Snape is implied to be abusive and most of the fanart and fanfiction I encounter depict him as your stereotypical drunk deadbeat dad while his mom is the typical victim.
It's plausible, but I'm getting tired of that interpretation.
Something we see in Snape as an adult is that he is massively insecure and that he things showing his feelings are a sign of weakness.
This certainly supports the theory that his parents were abusive, but I don't think it's limited to only the father being abusive or only being physically abusive.
Emotional abuse can mess someone up really bad, and I'm thinking of writing in one of my fanfictions that Eileen also had a hand in the abuse. She would never hit Severus, but she would make him feel worthless and unloved. Severus would try to impress her by having really high grades in school (which ties in to how dedicated he was to learning later in life) but she would ignore his marks when they were 100 and scold him when they dropped to 97.
The first time Snape feels in any way appreciated or validated is when he meets Lily, who is one of the few people who recognize his intellect. It would explain his obessive love for her that literally lasts the rest of his life.
What do you think?
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Oh! lol. I think next year is when it's open to everyone bro. 
1. The 'good side' bullied him, abused him, and treated him like shit. Voldemort offered him power and the chance to be treated like a human being with feelings instead of some trash. But the thing about Lily is that she was the only one, that we know of, that was the first and only person to treat him like a person when he was younger. It's ether that or he has single target sexuality.
Plus when Lily broke their friendship off then he had no reason to be on the good side. After all there was nothing left for him there anyways.
And I do think his fathers treatment of his mother, and possibly him, did fuel his dislike of muggles. He probably was forced into muggle school and was probably bullied there too. I don't think he was ever a bigot or racist I just think he was blinded by power and the chance to be special and to belong. Personally I don't see him as giving a shit about blood status.
2. In a memory of Snapes we see a thin woman cowering from a man who is yelling with little Severus in the corner crying. That sounds abusive to me. It's also heavily implied that he was neglected.
I personally am one of the few who think that Tobias could have been physically abusive (explains why Severus never lets people touch him) but it's more likely that he and his wife were emotionally abusive.
My theory is this, and it's plasuable:
Tobias marries Elieen and doesn't know she's a witch. A few years after Severus is born and he actually does magic. Tobias learns Elieen is a witch and becomes furious, Tobias, in my opinion, could have been religious and the realization of having a wizard for a son drove him over the edge. So he started to resent his son and the witch that lied to him and he started hitting Elieen and being verbally abusive toward Severus. Elieen, unable to deal with the abuse starts emotionally and mentally abusing Severus.
' Eileen also had a hand in the abuse. She would never hit Severus, but she would make him feel worthless and unloved. Severus would try to impress her by having really high grades in school (which ties in to how dedicated he was to learning later in life) but she would ignore his marks when they were 100 and scold him when they dropped to 97.
The first time Snape feels in any way appreciated or validated is when he meets Lily, who is one of the few people who recognize his intellect. It would explain his obessive love for her that literally lasts the rest of his life.'
Win, pure win. I totally agree with this.
In the books I see him so desperate to have someone tell him 'good job' or 'I'm proud of you' that he will work until he passes out (my Snape is a coffie addict who will stay up for even three days at a time working on an experiment)
This episode of MLP;FIM:[link] (the purple unicorn pony,Twilight Sparkle) when she snaps because she is worried about being Tardy, I kept thinking about how in my mind, Snape would act the same way. But instead of being worried about being tardy, he's worried about not completing an experiment (sleep deprivation and possible coffie overdose) or not pleasing Albus by failing to complete the task that is asked of him.
Watch the episode, and you will notice when she get's the snap I was talking about. Her face will get weird...
You will also notice the Snape similairity that I am talking about..
When you finish the MLP;FIM episode tell me what you think and if you view her 'snap' as something Snape would do.
Did I ever tell you how awesome you are?
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Do you get sorted or do you choose? I'd love Slytherin or Raveclaw
I never saw Gryffindors as "the good side". Rowling does a magnificent job in painting a world that is rarely black and white, it's a million shades of grey. Just because Harry is the protagonist, it does not mean he is Jesus LOL
Even Harry realises this, as he is really upset to discover that James was a bully and that Sirius is not very mature as an adult. He even goes against Lupin in the seventh book for trying to abandon his family.
I think that by the fourth book it's clear to the reader's that we're supposed to take the "good guys"'s actions with a grain of salt. Moody introduced the idea of capital punihment in the wizarding world and Barty Crouch Jr. shows is the first instance that the government (also supposedly on the "good" side) might be deeply flawed.
I would really like to see Voldemort on his rise to power. When we see him again (fourth book) he is NOT willing to share power and prone to torturing/killing people on a whim. So I'm not convinced that Snape would be joining Voldemort because Voldemort offered him power. As far as I know, Voldy never treated anybody like a human being.
But since Snape was smart, it's possible he earned the respect of other Death Eaters, so he might have followed Slytherins into a circle where he knew at least people would take him seriously.
"Plus when Lily broke their friendship off then he had no reason to be on the good side. After all there was nothing left for him there anyways."
I don't really agree with this. If this was true he would not have tried to save her even after her marriage to James. But he did anyway, which means that he always thought of her even when they were apart due to her rejection. In his mind, he always saw the pursuit of Dark Arts and his love for her as a separate issue, which is why he couldn't understand her upset.
I honestly don't see Snape bullied in Muggle school. He had a powerful grasp of magic for his age, so he could have defended himself like Voldemort did. James was able to bully him because James knew magic too and they were in a school where teachers would have been able to recognize what was going on, unlike Muggle teachers.
"And I do think his fathers treatment of his mother, and possibly him, did fuel his dislike of muggles. He probably was forced into muggle school and was probably bullied there too. I don't think he was ever a bigot or racist I just think he was blinded by power and the chance to be special and to belong. Personally I don't see him as giving a shit about blood status."
Well does he care about blood status or not? Do you think he just generally dislikes Muggles, but doesn't want to see them killed?
Oh, I agree it's a sign of abuse, but it doesn't necessarily have to be physical abuse. I love angst, so in my fics I will definitely try to explore the mental side of abuse. It can be even more damaging than getting hit!
I never noticed Snape does not let anybody touch him. Was this mentioned specifically?
I always wondered how Eileen and Tobias got married. I like your theory! Maybe she hid the fact that she was a witch because she is borderline Squib? We don't see a lot of wizards and witches rejoining Muggle society unless they could not quite integrate into the wizarding world (like Mrs. Figg).
Apparently we are on the same brain wavelength, because I recently thought of a story where Snape snaps because he wants to be validated in the Order of the Phoenix. I think it would happen if him and Sirius were forced to interact with each other even more than shown in the book.
Aww, thank you! :3
I'm really glad I can talk to someone about Harry Potter in such depth!
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Sorted. And it's impossible to cheat too. But sometimes you can get a hat stall. (an option between two houses)
I think that Voldemort was less bat shit insane back then. Once he died he went nuts.
'I don't really agree with this. If this was true he would not have tried to save her even after her marriage to James. But he did anyway, which means that he always thought of her even when they were apart due to her rejection. In his mind, he always saw the pursuit of Dark Arts and his love for her as a separate issue, which is why he couldn't understand her upset. '
I was referring to how he could have thought in school. As he grew I thought he matured a bit and his thought process changed too. As a student he had nothing worth staying for. But as soon as she was threatened, he had a reason and that reason was to protect her.
It was never stated that the Marauders ever got punished for their 'pranks'. Its almost cannon 'fan wise' that since they were Gryffindors, they were allowed to do what ever they wanted.
I think he just didn't like them all that much. But he certainly didn't want them dead.
Kids are mean. And remember, outside Hogwarts you can't use magic. I know accidental magic is allowed but he has to be careful not to expose magic and stuff too.
'I never noticed Snape does not let anybody touch him. Was this mentioned specifically?'
In the books do you notice that all the characters hug and have been touched in some way? Snape hasn't. It has never been mentioned once that he was ever hugged, kissed, or even touched. I find it odd, you know?
Well the no liking touch thing is a fannon thing but it really does fit him...a lot. Do you see him liking being touched at all?
' Maybe she hid the fact that she was a witch because she is borderline Squib? We don't see a lot of wizards and witches rejoining Muggle society unless they could not quite integrate into the wizarding world (like Mrs. Figg). '
Oh that is an amazing theory! I quite like that.
'where Snape snaps because he wants to be validated in the Order of the Phoenix. I think it would happen if him and Sirius were forced to interact with each other even more than shown in the book.'
Sounds awesome. I'd read it. Oh my god. You should totally write a story with Snape snapping like Twilight did. It would be so funny. Can you imagine Albus trying to calm his tits but failing?
I have a theory. My theory is that he was scratched by Lupin during the shreaking shack in his 5-6th year.
When a person is scratched by a werewolf they become 1/4 werewolf, they don't turn, there anger gets worse, they have a hankering for red meat and dont get hurt by silver. And the cuts might re open every full moon, but I'm not sure.
I always thought it strange how angry he became so quickly in school to adult hood. Plus with the scratch it would serve as a reminder of the 'prank'
'I'm really glad I can talk to someone about Harry Potter in such depth!'
Yes, same here.
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With my luck I'll get Hufflepuff
Yeah, I think Voldemort was less insane in the beginning, which is why he got so many followers. Another parallel to Hitler!
Hitler was actually not so crazy when he started the National Socialsm party.
Oh yes, James and Sirius WERE punished. If you recall, in Half-Blood Prince Harry gets detention for the rest of the year for using Sectumsempra on Malfoy and Snape forces him to copy clean the detentions of his father's school years. James and Sirius were definitely not immune.
I think was smart enough even as a child to hide the fact he did magic in elementary school
Well, Snape is not the hugging type LOL
But the problem is we never see him interact with people he likes. Since the book is from Harry's point of view, we only see Snape irritated and angry. But maybe if we saw a scene of Snape and Lucius, they would probably grasp hands or even pat each other in the shoulder.
Like I said, I really like angst. My fic would probably be way too emotional
I wasn't thinking of comedy really XD
Want to see samples of my writing?
Hmm, it's a possibility, since Bill was also attacked by a werewolf but did not get the full curse either. But if that was true, Snape would probably hate Lupin and Lupin is probably the ONLY one of the Marauders he treats like an adult.
PS: remembered spell-check this time, woo!
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Hufflepuff is fucking awesome. The only house I dislike is Gryffindor and you already know why lol.
Oh, my bad. Never mind.
Smart enough yes, but I don't think his mother would appreciate him using magic or getting in trouble all the time.
Daww how cute! I would love to see Lucius and Severus or Severus and albus hugging or patting each other on the back. Brb dawwing forever.
I love angst as well angst and hurt comfort. You can make snape going nuts into an angst story. Like snape could be so desperate to complete albus' task that he's in tears and afraid about what the reprucissions could be if he doesn't do what albus wants. remember, abuse has lasting effects.
Or perhaps he's a bit scared of him. Just because he's civil with the man does not mean he Isnt afraid of him. Just a thought.
I would love to see a sample of your writing.
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Ah, but how would he get in trouble if his teachers didn't know he was the cause of the magic?
Yeah, I think there is DEFINITELY some camaraderie going on between Snape and Lucius, maybe even a bromance. Just look at how Snape treats Draco. Snape obviously has favouritism towards people he likes and he sees Draco as an extension of Lucius. It's probably the ONLY way he could like Draco at all, since Draco is exactly the same type of bully that Snape hated.
I think I'm going to write that now then LOL
I don't think Snape is afraid of Lupin. Lupin didn't stop James from bullying, but he was not an active participator nor did he cheer them on like Peter. Lupin is very smart and a good teacher, so Snape probably has a certain degree of respect for him that he could never develop for any of the other three.
Ohhhh, new perspective though! Lupin maybe could inspire some fear in Snape since he would be Snape's first close encounter with death. MUST CONSIDER THIS
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His mother would know, well maybe. Or maybe his teachers were assholes...
Snape and lucius with a bromance. Win just fucking win.
Yep. Snape saw not only a werewolf that night, he saw death too.
Loved the fics. Now you must write crazy but angst snap, cus my writing would not do it justice like yours.
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His teachers would be Muggles, how would they recognize magic?
WOO BROMANCE
Yeah I'm trying to write, but I get easily distracted LOL
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Some muggles are aware of magic. Like snapes father.
Me too. Well good night. Tis time for bed.
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EDIT: replied to the wrong place ._.
Well, that was my first time watching MLP
It was not that bad, actually, but I don't think I've been turned into a brony. It's a children's show at heart, simple premises but thorough.
I can see what you mean about Snape and Twilight, though Snape would probably not have such a comedic breakdown XD
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FFFFUUU sent the other reply without spellcheck D:
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Well, that was my first time watching MLP
It was not that bad, actually, but I don't think I've been turned into a brony. It's a children's show at heart, simple premises but thorough.
I can see what you mean about Snape and Twilight, though Snape would probably not have such a comedic breakdown XD
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It takes a few episodes to turn you.
LOL, well it is a chidrens show. But with the 'hiiiii girlllls" and h whole fucking creepy face I was all like: "OMG if snape hadn't slept in like 3 days and if he was stressed enoguh...I could totally see him doing this. To Albus.
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He probably would, but the dialogue would be internal and he would be creeping on his students
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I would see him snapping like this during spring break in the burrow.
Being all creepy and crazy as fuck towards Molly, Arthur, Minerva and Albus..
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Would somebody be supportive though?
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Well Molly and Arthur and Severus get along quite fine in Cannon so I could see them trying to calm him down.
And perhaps Albus might, but only after Molly hounds him into helping.
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Yep. I'm making this into a fic.
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Then I give the fic to you. Write my faithful stead write!
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LOL we probably have really different styles, so we could write the same theme
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That's stubble, not facial hair.
You know, how a British man tends to look when they shave.
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I think you're missing his huge goatee...
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That's the shadow of the lapel from the cloak.
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If that's true, his chin is really small :/
I guess I can't convince you about this, since we're interpreting it differently. Personally I'm pretty sure that's his goatee.
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Keep in mind that the pic you are referring to is anatomically incorrect in regards to his face. His nose is too big to be real, so the idea that his chin is really small in this pic is true.
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Well there you go, this is a cartoon of Snape more than a portrait, so I think the goatee is plausible.
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Thing is, it's easy to tell whether it is or not. Go to photoshop and alterate the levels or brightness and contrast and you can see it's not a goatee. His face is fairly masked shaped if you alter the levels enough with his face being quite clean and his hair really greasy and flat.
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Alas, I am not rich enough to have Photoshop.
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