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Obligatory disclaimer: I don't hate Ashley. The girl does kick ass. I just wasn't aware of all her oddities until I accidentally romanced her with Max Shepard.Her constant quoting of poetry did get old real quick.
Cyan- the Shep that rom'd Garrus; the one in most of my ME comics
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But I admit her "religious face" looks more like "molesting face" XD
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Heheh, I get the poetry bit. Though I do find it odd how everyone seems to poke fun at Ashley for being religious and not Thane, or Mordin, or Liara.
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She's more open about it.
Plus the others have other things to be teased about. XD
Such as Mordin being ALITTLECREEPY for such an old fart.
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Mordin creepy? That's ridiculous.
*receives advice booklet of positions comfortable for both species* 0_o
lol
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My first shepard basically left her for Tali in the second game. She just wasnt nice...lol
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I noticed the same stuff. Between the initial "RAR Aliens" and the "u r bein polite and frendly that meanz we r solmates" stuff...I get that she's more complex than that, but she still rubbed me the wrong way. I left her behind on Virmire, partially for the aforementioned issues and partially because I was already a Soldier and Kaidan seemed more appealing as a character to me (despite winning the "Blandest Character Appearance in the Galaxy" award).
Jack had a similar problem with my MaleShep. Being Paragon and just talking to her made her think I was "interested". Of course, you can tell her you're not interested like with Liara, but she just sounds so sad when you do, so I generally never talk to her more than once after her loyalty mission (though ignoring her like that makes me kinda sad too...).
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Yeah, I rom'd Jack with my boy scout, which was weird haha XD
Talking to Ashley as fem Shep helped me understand her more (now I usually sacrifice Kaidan just because I'd feel bad for Ash's sisters).
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Proud Ashaholic 
Loved the comic, great drawing style.
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lol XD
I think she makes a cooler BFF personally.
Yeah, 4th generation army brat then air force member here
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Matched only by having Sarah Walker on your team in Mass Effect 2
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Oh man I'm glad to see I"m not the only one that accidentally romanced Ashley. I was just being nice to her and then for some reason she wanted to fuck me. ;(
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I like her well enough, but yeah, it's impossible to just get to know her as male Shep :\
At least Liara ASKS if you're interested in her.
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YOU KNOW YOU LIKE IT SKIPPER
(Seriously, I accidentally'd Ash on one of my playthroughs and felt the same way.)
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She's so easy to accidentally
omg x_x
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Liara's even easier.
I'M INTERESTED IN YOU, SHEPARD O_____O
Shep:
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LOL
At least she out-and-out asks you if you're interested in her, so you have the option to say no.
I am apparently unable to make friendly conversation with Ashley without her deciding it's sexing time. Even if I tell her to GTFO when she tries the whole "Udina's a tool" moment. @_X
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That's Mass Effect for ya. I was all TALI, YOU'RE THE ONLY WOMAN ON THIS SHIP THAT'S NOT TRYING TO JUMP MY BONE! LET'S BE BEST FRIENDS FOREVER!
And then I accidentally Mass Effect 2.
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But she's such an adorable LI~ X3
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I know! And that makes it worse!
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Actually didn't have trouble with the Mako on Ilos... only everywhere else I had to drive it. Terrain in general on most worlds is a pain in the neck.
The actual plot centric worlds don't have that.
The Virmire decision... not an easy one to make. I left Kaidan so come ME2 I'm faced with an distrustful and suspicious Ashley. I'd imagine if I went the other way then Kaidan would be more suspicious.
The import ability makes plot consequences more interesting to me.
Again very funny comic.
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The first time I was on Virmire, I must've sat there for five minutes going "Oh gooodddd why can't I save them booooothh??" ;_;
I tend to leave Ashley behind most of the time just because Kaidan's more useful with his biotics.
My problem with the mako on Ilos was the last stretch-- I tended to get killed by all the geth before I could reach the conduit.
Though driving vertically up mountains in an attempt to reach areas on random planets was frustrating lol
thanks :>
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Yes... there's a similar to decision to that in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1. Mephisto's 'son' Blackheart has Jean Grey and Nightcrawler in cages. After you defeat him and take the key... you have to decide which one plunges into the Infinity Vortex.
Both try to persuade you to save the other. The post-game consequences of this decision didn't crossover in MUA2. That makes it different from the importing consequences between Mass Effect games. That's what made ME2 clever... all your first game decisions either prove to be a good thing or in some cases a bad thing.
Jean Grey will resurrect as the Phoenix in search of vengeance and Mystique will murder Xavier in his sleep for allowing her son to die. Both are bad in some respects... though I think letting Nightcrawler die has a more lasting consequence... he stays dead and Mystique's murder of Xavier ends the X-Men.
I barely made it through the Conduit on Ilos both times that I have played so far. Likewise I repeatedly get shot up in the Mako... well if you barge right into the line of fire on say a Geth Colossus backed up by rocket troopers and that other unit that's slightly smaller than a Colossus. Yep it killed me more than once doing that.
Also the terrain on random worlds likewise was frustrating for me. Somehow I got flipped over more than once tumbling down the mountain side.
Typically I always make Paragon decisions... though occasionally I will end up with Renegade points for something or other.
Giving Shadow Broker... the Cerberus files for one. The first time I refused to give it to him. The second time I figured aw what the heck.
The second time I customized the look of Shepard. Of course I decided to go around saving the galaxy as Jane Shepard instead of John Shepard. So I tried both being the leading man and the leading lady. I did the same thing with Knights of the Old Republic and The Sith Lords.
The three way romance show down in the conference room is more or less the same either way.
As romances go in these kinds of games, I find the more developed the romantic interests are... the more enjoyable the whole experience is. The crew in general felt very well written.
I do realize that Raphael Sbarge and Jennifer Hale were both previously in KOTOR and The Sith Lords as Carth Onasi and Bastila Shan. Actually saw someone do a crossover art where you have Carth dressed like Kaidan and Jennifer Hale dressed like Shepard.
I got charm high enough to convince Saren he's been compromised by Sovereign. The results were unexpected... he blew his own brains out only for Sovereign to assume full control over his corpse.
As boss battles, that was actually kind of easy when you skip one round by persuading or tricking the enemy into doing something that harms them.
Similarly in every BioWare game I have played so far... just about everyone is trying to kill you or doesn't trust you... except for the people on your ship.
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*Sigh*
You know, despite what the bad spelling youtube commentors who probably haven't washed in their whole life span might proclaim between incoherent swears and wiping spilled Monster energy drink from their keyboards would have you believe, Ashley really is all that racist.
Seriously, at most she is hesitant about trusting alien foreign powers because she's cynical of the idea that they care about the human race in the long term and given her family's history in the first contact war and her lack of experience working with them, that's the reason for her apparent 'xenophobia'.
That said, she can actually work quite comfortably with the Salarian team on Virmire, she even happily volunteers for the job. She also at one point expresses to Tali that she hopes for improves relations with Humans and Quarians. Plus she rather openly despises Terra Firma and continues to do so regardless of whether Shepard supports them or not (in fact if you go full renegade she even becomes defensive of aliens). She also maintains that she doesn't think humanity is 'superior' to other races.
Plus, she can actually be pursuaded (through a long conversation) to try and be more open minded about working with aliens in the future. Leading her to being the most paragon member of the team, that magical thing called 'character development' and 'flawed characters' that everyone claims to demand in video games and then when they get it they shout that the characters aren't likable.
Basically the whole 'Ashley is da racist' is really the by product of total overreaction on the part of the gaming community and truth be told, I always feel a little more cynical everytime I hear about it.
Also, Ashley mentions believing in god ONCE. In the entire course of what amounts to a potential thirty hour game, Ashley mentions it ONCE. For two minutes, and she doesn't rub your face in it, or demand you accept it as the only truth in the universe or even go into much detail about what her beliefs are save for that she happens to believe in god.
Truth be told, when I see people get all mad about how she is a 'religious god nut' because of that and then claim to hate her because she's so 'bigotted' I laugh bitterly.
As for the poetry, eh, it didn't bother me. I would prefer to listen to Walt Whitman or Alfred Tennyson then I would listen to Liara or Tali nervously telling me how amazing I am and how happy they are to let me take their precious virginity. But that's just me.
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Oh my god, I can't believe you wrote that long of a comment over this o_o
I will read your whole comment once I've been up more than a couple of hours, but basically my response will still boil down to:
This comic isn't a hate-fest, it's a parody; it's meant to inflate someone's oddities. Even when I like a character, I'm still not above making fun of them.
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Ah, I see. Sorry, I probably should have read through the comments before I reacted.
It's just I've seen soooo many of these and for some reason,they really piss me off.
Thanks for explaining though, sorry if I kind of text walled you to death.
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That's fine, at least it was a misunderstanding we settled this amicably.
I've seen comics that blatantly and harshly degrade characters I like, so I can kind of understand the knee-jerk reaction.
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'Alienz is just like dogs! Not racist or anythin'.'
Fifth panel KILLED me. Sandwich-eating Shepard is pure gold.
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lolz that panel amused me the most to draw, tbh XD
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*passes you a beer with a note under it: * "ash and nuclear bombs dont go well together.."
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Good comic by the way, I like ashly though but she just did what she thought was right. but i think she aint for me any more, considering shes a hard ass...
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I came to like her, too, tbh XD
I just can't help but poke fun at her
thanks :>
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Thank you... but what turkey? he dead... XD
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I actually REALLY hated Ashley my first play-through. The second time I went through the game though I bothered getting to know her, and I felt really guilty about how my leaving her on Virmire the first time was solely out of spite.
I still left her the second time but that was because I had to weigh the consequences. Unfortunately she's just a soldier and because of her lack of diversity I had to choose the biotic....that and it seemed like a really good way for her to redeem the family name. Too bad Alenko isn't better written....I wouldn't feel so dirty saving him.
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I knowww
After I talked to her more with my 2nd Shep and knew her better (and found out about her sisters), I felt guilty. :<
And I liked her more.
Did you ever romance Kaidan? I didn't like him until I rom'd him for shits and giggles. He's pretty adorkable.
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I did try to romance him, buuuuut his character just wasn't written very well and though all the other characters in ME1 didn't have many convo lines, his just didn't show enough of who he was as a person other than: He really thinks Shepard is awesome, he really likes to talk about regs.
Honestly I spent alot more time just hanging 'round the mako...hehe.
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Yeah, you have a point. He doesn't have quite as much character dev.
He's a cutie in his awkward adoration, but not much is really said about him aside from his loyalty to the Alliance and his crappy past with Brain Camp.
OGOD THE MAKO so glad that wasn't in ME2 lol
That part at the end of ME1 where you have to drive through those geth towards the Conduit... I DIED SO MANY TIMES THE FIRST PLAYTHROUGH. AGHHH MAKOOO
I bugged Garrus a lot, too yihihi
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She wasn't that bad in the religion department. Neither was she with her slight xenophobia. At least she wwasn't like the Mad Prophet or worse, the Illusive Manwhore.
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