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Description Is it done?

Obviously, not. I still need to hide the lines that are showing over the fire / water. I'm talking about the background in collaboration with the characters.
ANY advice is awesome. Please and thank you!

I know there's a whitish line on the edge of the rocks, that will be fixed next update. As will the lines and everything else unless I scrap this background and do a new one.
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Comments: 26

Ilovepeanutbutter [2012-05-17 11:03:04 +0000 UTC]

that is great!

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frozen-fyre [2011-07-19 22:25:14 +0000 UTC]

o.o I can't wait to see the finished product. ^^

I think you should have highlights in the background and over Zuko and Katara - like star and moonlight. Also, Katara's face should be cast in darkness more than Zuko's, as he has fire right in front of him and she doesn't. And since the fire loops around and wavers in front of her abdomen and shins, they should be more brightly lit (as you've already done with her stomach).

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andAshes In reply to frozen-fyre [2011-07-19 23:37:27 +0000 UTC]

That is a good point. I hadn't thought too much about the moon or anything :3

I think that would be a plan. Thanks~

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frozen-fyre In reply to andAshes [2011-07-20 03:25:05 +0000 UTC]

Yaaaay I had a good idea. ^^ No problem.

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PreetiKitti7 [2011-07-19 21:35:18 +0000 UTC]

CUTE! ^.^

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MechaPuppy [2011-07-18 07:05:25 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't stick with the cliff in the background personally, the colours are too close to that of the fire and greatly reduce the impact that could be created through contrast. The brown on the ground was a great choice, since it offsets the blue nicely, but perhaps choose a more distant forest look for the top half of the picture, using dark greens and purples to draw more attention towards the vibrant orange. I suggest making the grass go up till about 1/3 of the piece, adding some depth by making the blades smaller the higher they go and a little less defined near the edge of the woods. Making the background darker around the center would also help definition,

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andAshes In reply to MechaPuppy [2011-07-19 21:07:23 +0000 UTC]

Excellent. xD I will try something along those lines, originally I had the cliff in mind, but it doesn't hurt to try a couple other things.

Thanks. :3

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lucysdarkside [2011-07-18 02:51:41 +0000 UTC]

Firstly you can set your art when you publish it, asking for critiques.. That way people who see it can do so.

Secondly my advice would probably have helped you earlier on, but I didn't think about it until I saw this one.


Their poses needs a bit of work I say this only because usually when water benders bend their hand is usually leading the water along, and fire benders dance, while you have Zuke standing still.

Just personal opinion.

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andAshes In reply to lucysdarkside [2011-07-18 03:18:20 +0000 UTC]

xD I've posted five of them now. I'm more looking for the background, not the people. Thanks, though!

Zuko is difficult to draw. Katara is easy enough, and I wanted her arms to be spread as they are.
And I know I can - I just don't feel like it.

I'm not changing the poses.
I've been working on drawing the both of them more. He is more difficult, but for some reason I start with her first. I think I'll have to start with him first next drawing.

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lucysdarkside In reply to andAshes [2011-07-18 03:28:17 +0000 UTC]

Which is why I said it would have been more useful for your irst post. I can't really say anything about the background though, because I'm not very good with backgrounds myself.

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andAshes In reply to lucysdarkside [2011-07-18 03:33:28 +0000 UTC]

It's more of a firmer contrast between them than anything else. I don't need an example, thanks. ^.^""

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lucysdarkside In reply to lucysdarkside [2011-07-18 03:17:57 +0000 UTC]

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Something more like this.

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AnimeLoverAimz [2011-07-17 14:57:22 +0000 UTC]

This is really cool!!!!!! love it

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DragonWarrior24 [2011-07-17 11:56:27 +0000 UTC]

very cool

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tadashii-satsu [2011-07-17 03:28:19 +0000 UTC]

Oh my gosh, this is getting more and more amazing every time I see it!

I can't wait for the finished product!

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andAshes In reply to tadashii-satsu [2011-07-17 07:48:44 +0000 UTC]

Any tips for me? I need to figure something out for the background. Maybe firmer lines? I fail at backgrounds xD

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tadashii-satsu In reply to andAshes [2011-07-17 08:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I fail at backgrounds too. xDD

Actually, doing a bit of smudging and blurring on the background can help bring the crispness of the characters forward. xD and it gives us artists an excuse to be lazy.

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andAshes In reply to tadashii-satsu [2011-07-17 10:01:25 +0000 UTC]

xD

Horray for laziness.

For sure I need to get rid of that white line on the edge of the cliff side, maybe sharpen it and do it all myself. I like the high-contrast look. This piece has been a huge challenge for me and my usual style :3

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tadashii-satsu In reply to andAshes [2011-07-21 01:07:15 +0000 UTC]

Yesss, laziness is good for the soul. :3

A little idea on my part (but don't take me seriously, I'm an anime artist and therefore my backgrounding advice is obsolete), maybe if you used photoshop's "replace color" option coupled with the selection tool, then you could fade the white line to an orangey line to help bring out the cliff face against the forest...

...but maybe it wouldn't look right. After all, I'm a terrible background painter. xD

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andAshes In reply to tadashii-satsu [2011-07-21 06:03:19 +0000 UTC]

I don't really know too much about various special colouring techniques. I've only recently started working with the burn and dodge tool, and using textures a little more too.

Though I don't think that would work, seeing as it's a texture overtop of the cliff, to then I burnt and dodged the colours until it turned into that.

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tadashii-satsu In reply to andAshes [2011-07-24 02:30:09 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I never use fancy tools. Just my brush presets and my tablet, sometimes the smudge tool. P: Maybe that's why I suck at backgrounding. xD

Personally, I recommend avoiding the burn and dodge tools because they give a lot less breathing room to work with color schemes...

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andAshes In reply to tadashii-satsu [2011-07-24 14:23:52 +0000 UTC]

This is actually the only time I used it. xD It was mostly because it worked for the contrast look. Lots of layering and opacity adjusting.

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MrsZeldaLink [2011-07-17 02:29:52 +0000 UTC]

Whoa! That's beautiful!

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andAshes In reply to MrsZeldaLink [2011-07-17 07:48:59 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Any advice is cool too :3

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MrsZeldaLink In reply to andAshes [2011-07-17 21:00:47 +0000 UTC]

Hmm...I don't see anything really wrong with it. The only suggestion would be to make the fire a little blurry? Just a bit...but even just like this, the picture's awesome!

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pokemonaddict567 [2011-07-16 14:27:06 +0000 UTC]

How pretty!

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