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aah. make that a deviation and link meh so I can fave it @-@
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Haha, I'm too busy... and lazy. x)
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TEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEE
those area exactly my sentemonies!!!
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This brightens my day. So glad I'm not the only one!
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You're definitely not alone XD
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I can understand disliking the Twilight series, but to then endorse Amelia Atwater-Rhodes in the same breath seems less than reasonable.
Most of your issues with Stephanie Meyer could easily be applied to to AAR, especially the repetitiveness and Mary-Sueism (Demon in My View, anyone?).
Sorry if I come across as abrasive or confrontational. I imagine it boils down to different tastes and opinions, but I'm just trying to understand what seems to me like a discrepancy.
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Alright, I will admit Demon in My View was pretty much a Mary-Sue. However, that's only one of her books, and one of her earliest ones, too. No one is trying to make a movie out of it and it doesn't read like an 8th grade girl wrote it for herself to feel better about not having a boyfriend.
I randomly opened Twilight to read a page and had to shove it away in disgust. It's choppy, fragmented, and doesn't flow at all. Some of what Atwater-Rhodes writes can be a little bumpy, but her first book she wrote at 13 and it's still better written than Meyer's. Granted, this is all my opinion, and it's your opinion that it's a discrepancy.
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*shrug* As I said earlier, it boils down to opinion. I wondered if your opinion was based on actually having read the series rather than *just* opinion, but whatever. Not much more to be said without getting abrasive or confrontational so I'll bow out at this point.
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I figured this was just a mature debate, whereas the convfrontational fans of Twilight series are rude and immature about it. "U r liek so stoopid and cant read if u don't liek Twilight!!!!111 its the best book evar! U must b 2 stoopid 2 read" I'm not even exaggerating on it, either. I could find a couple comments on other anti-Twilight art thats much more creative and less abrasive than mine.
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No, no. Really. I'm good. I've seen how internet fans can be for any fandom. I didn't mean to imply that you were abrasive, as much as I felt my own potential for becoming so and hoped to avoid it. It was more from my side of things than yours. I know that I can get up in arms in defense of topics I like.
But I'd feel more comfortable with continuing this debate if I'd gotten the impression that you'd read the works of both authors before comparing them. I read an offhand remark about reading a random page in one of Stephanie Meyer's books and putting it down, which doesn't seem like enough to judge an author's collective work.
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Considering the page or two I read was located towards the end of the first book, my assumption was the rest of her books were about the same. Especially since it would be ridiculous to change writing styles when this way has already established personality of Bella being a twit. i just don't like her books.
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So you formed all of the opinions expressed on this page from reading one or two pages from the end of the first book? I'm trying to understand how you gleaned the list of flaws you describe from just a couple of pages of content. Maybe a chapter or two from the beginning of the book, but not two pages near the end. That's not fair to the author, to any potential readers who may turn away from the series based on your expressed opinion or to yourself. I'm not saying that you're "stupid" or "illiterate" for not liking the series, but I question your judgement when you've admittedly never sat down and actually read it at length but describe the things you disilike about it as such length.
And while it may not have too much bearing on the conversation, I *did* read all of AAR's Den of Shadows novels and the first Bird/Snake book before deciding that her novels were not my cup of tea.
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I've read all of AAR's novels, up to the second Bird/Snake book. If she writes another Den of Shadows novel I'll buy it, too. I just don't see how Bird+Snake=Wolf, or whatever weird thing she had happen recently.
I would never even have picked up the Stephanie Meyer book if I hadn't read the things that were said about it in the negative light. It isn't what I usually enjoy (romance with a supernatural setting), even though all of my friends are obsessive about it. I wanted to see if what the negative reviews said were right, and since most of the fans had to admit that what was said negatively about the book are true, I based my opinion on that and backed it up with the smidge I read in one of the books.
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Bird+Snake=Wolf? That does sound odd . . .
That sounds a bit more reasonable. Still . . . the way you present the information implies that you've at least read the books, which you haven't. At least throwing in something to the effect of, "I've heard this about the series . . . " would be more accurate than presenting the information as if you had in fact read them, which is what I implied when I first came across your stamp.
I just hate seeing seemingly uninformed opinions echoed without consideration for the possible impact of one's words. It irks me.
But I'm glad we've had this conversation. It's been enlightening.
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Doesn't it? That's what someone said. Bird person mated with snake person and made a wolf child. I'm not quite sure how that turned out.
I'm glad we had this conversation, too.
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OMG I TOTALLY AGREE!!
I read the first few chapters, I felt like I was reading a fan fiction!! OMG!! Everyone else says it's amazing, but I freaking hate it! And I love vampires! And I love reading! DX
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Have you read anything by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes? She has a few vampire books that are pretty damn good. Much better than the shit by Meyer.
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I've read everything buy her! Until she started doing the half-animal things... But even then, I read the first two, just not the third one because the fact that a hawk and a snake made a wolf made my head explode. XD
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Same. i read the first two, but mainly cause I wanted to snake boy
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I LOVED him. But the girl was kind of annoying in the second one. I don't know why I felt that way. Lol. I think it's cause her personality just flipped. Basically what happened was the snake boy came up to her and went "In the next hundred pages, all your problems will be solved with my penis." ;^^
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The girl was annoying in all of them >.>
All my problems could've been solved by his peen XDD
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His penis could solve world hunger if he tried hard enough. XD
True, true... I'm still amazed that the writer put out her first book at fourteen, though. It's not surprising that her newer ones are kinda flops, since she started so young.
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Her first book was written at thirteen :3
They aren't flops, I just don't find them interesting. When she goes back to things like Shattered Mirror, I'll read her stuff again.
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God no. The writing is horribly structured and repetitive. I wrote better when I was in fifth grade.
Plus, the characters are two-dimensional and obnoxious. Bella is a self-insert Mary-Sue for Meyer. It reads like a badly written fanfiction.
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Okay, Just wondering ^-^
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