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Psst
If I may, I can offer an honest critique and an explanation on how wings work
trust me i'm an ornithologist kinda
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Go right ahead, id love any feedback from you 
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Yeah, that's pretty much how it words, folding inwards when they pull up, but the animation here also seems to bend awkwardly on the downward stroke.
The first thing is to understand the bone structure of the wing. Bird wings are built a lot like our own arms, just with a few tweaked features (such as a hand with all the fingers fully joined together). This doodad here shows it well.
www.deviantart.com/art/Realist…
The downward stroke is the power stroke in flight, so the whole wing needs to be fully stretched out during that whole stroke. Surface area of the wing is key so the bird can gain as much lift as possible. And then on the upward stroke, the wings are pulled upwards at an angle (bent from the wrist joint, the part that connects the carponetacarpis with the radius/ulna) and sometimes pulled inwards from bending the elbow (the join connecting the radius/ulna with the humerus) in order to reduce upward resistance. Of course with things like taking off and landing, the flapping pattern is going to change, but that's a whole different discussion. Watching birds in flight in slow motion helps.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1uY7_…
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Wow, very insightful! and thank you for the wonderful links!
This is a flight cycle a spent a bit more time on, do I have the same problems here, or is it more accurate?
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Closer, yes~ Your wings, however, are still pretty thick when looking at them in the middle of the downwards stroke. Remember, wings work much like sails and kites in that both the flat shape and the surface area coincide in helping the bird to gain lift. Also for many flapping cycles, the downwards stroke can tilt the wings slightly forward.
Also just an anatomy pet peeve, your leg looks like it's coming out of the bird's chest, and the heron's neck is unusually thick.
You're getting there though~ Your wing anatomy from the first frame is pretty on par - if you notice, the primary feathers come from the manis (fancy word for the hand bit) and the secondary feathers come from the radius/ulna, and if you look at the feathers on their own you can notice a subtle break that defines where the primaries and secondaries are. (Here's actually a vid that we watched in aviculture class that explains that better, how crazy is this that I found it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxJQmt… ) And it looks like you got that one down, so great job there~ I understand all too well that animation takes time, but you're definitely getting the hang of it~
Admittedly the link I sent for slow motion flying wasn't that great, since it never showed a full cycle of flapping, so here's more.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzpM8…
This one shows well how the tail feathers fan out in flight as well so that the bird can increase its surface area and steer easier.
youtu.be/UFiYSHFh4qM?t=43s
Good view of the same thing from the front. Clicking around you can also see how the feathers rotate during the flapping cycle (but details details, you're working on it).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZidl8…
Holy shit this is the holy grail. (Also when they point out a "flapping" bird's wing and a "gliding" bird's wing the "flapping" wing can also be identified as a "soaring" wing. There is a difference. Trust me.)
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Wow! Im so overwhelmed by this plethora of new knowledge and things to consider, its honestly too much for me to want to go into detail about now, but I will defintly refer back to this comment next time I need anything with wings. and those videos have been bookmarked (: Thank you so much!
Where did you come to appreciate and understand so much about avians?
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I took an aviculture class in a college program that trains its students to be actual zookeepers.
Ornithology class.
I went to actual bird school. For birds. And I loved it 'cuz I just fackin' love birds.
And you're welcome, anytime~
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Bird school. bird school
That's so great X3
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.o. I must have missed that
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www.deviantart.com/journal/Dev…
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sure :'D flockmod.com/tundraroom
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awww thanks friend ^^ and I think im gonna draw on flockmod, wanna join?
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do you prefer any specific room? :3
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no it doesn't matter
I could make one if you want :'D I also have my own room if you want to use that one
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