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: "Wait why are you freaking out? Am I gripping you too hard?"
: "You don't understand, right when I started this sparring match, I remembered there was a MASSIVE sale at the market today and I missed it!"
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Rationalizations from a Saitama fanboy.
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Ok guys..let me get things straight
Saitama did 100 pushup ,sit ups ,swats 10k run , ect for three years......
Goku on the other had has been training all his life, been trained by gods, worked in 100 times normal gravity, and became a **** god....
People think saitama is strong......have u ever consider looking at both there training methods lately.....
I'm putting fact into this and saying goku will win easily THE END!!!
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Saitama: Ok
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Still Saitama got that strong without help and within three years it doesn't matter if you trained with god's Saitama is still stronger than Goku
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Listen I like saitama I really do..but i think goku is stronger
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Okay but I'm just saying it's just my opinion
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I just wish people would stop bickering over this kind of stuff it's annoying
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saitama is human but he is super strong takeaway speed he's kind of screwed.
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I don't think you'd be scared I think you be excited that someone is as strong as he is?
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So he got serious and blew goku's head off by accident
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Yep if Goku tries to catch Saitama's punch he would die instantly
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Goku loses many times, Saitama is only delayed
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Goku loses against strong fighter, Saitama win against weak fighter, there is no one in OPM manga at the level of Cell, Boros is weaker than Frieza namek saga
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lol you know goku would get 1 hit ko-ed right?
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Not really the creator of one punch man stated that Saitama literally has the power of the Big Bang in his fist.
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So serious all the time, I watched this anime and I'm sorry but even as a hardcore Dragon Ball fan, while Goku might be able to provide a challenge as far as speed and skills are concerned... I think Saitama would just obliterate him.
But hey, the possibilities aside from a battle are legendary like what would happen if Saitama trained Goku to become as strong as he is or what would happen if he could harness Ki?
Basically, I think in the case of battles like this where the duel is between a character who is intentionally made to be OP to spoof other OP characters and action anime and a character who is more realistically powerful... I think the outcome is very predictable but honestly, that's the fun of what-if fights. Even if the characters lose, the fight idea is still awesome regardless.
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When has Saitama punched hard enough to rip across the universe? Saitama is the strongest in his universe. Yet he's a small fish in a big pond in other universes. Ignoring that, even the degree to which Saitama always holds back means nothing. He had to have been putting at least 1% into the fight with Boros, at bare minimum, with his Serious Punch, that the guidebooks have confirmed. That would mean he's nowhere close to universal at maximum power, while Goku accomplished that as only a Super Saiyan God. And besides, being a parody and a trope deconstruction means nothing. By that logic, Ray Tracer from ReBoot could beat the Silver Surfer since he is obviously a Silver Surfer parody. Or since Morn is a joke character on DS9, he could solo fiction. You see how stupid that line of thinking gets? I doubt your claims to being a hardcore DBZ fan, if you can't accept the reality that as it stands now, Goku has better feats, and has shown to be much stronger, even by the degree to which "Saitama always holds back."
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Except that's a bit different, Saitama is a character who is made to be overpowered in his story, the whole joke is that he's so strong that nothing can realistically challenge him anymore. Now as for Goku? I think there's a point to be made for him but really that depends on how you're writing a fight like this. If you write it by taking it seriously and really consider the feats of Saitama compared to Goku then yes Goku should realistically come out on top. However, if you write it with the full intent of keeping the joke intact or in other words, you write it with the same kind of "I just want to have fun." attitude that the Dr. Slump crossover episode for Super had then Saitama wins.
It's not really being a fanboy so much as it's being so sick of people having to insult and demean others because they think a certain character would win in a fight and I'm especially sick of this because it's people taking a joke character who is meant for people to have fun with way too seriously. I mean come on, these are fictional characters dude, if you seriously are that uncomfortable about your fandom that you can't handle a simple joke over your preferred character losing or someone just stating they disagree then I don't know what to tell you other than get the stick out of your ass and just have fun with it.
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It is being a fanboy when you think that Saitama's character traits should override Goku's. OPM does not deserve special treatment, especially not after the deplorable behavior of its fandom, spreading lies to treat and overhype Saitama and exaggerate on what he can do. The biggest problem in scaling Saitama is that you don't know his upper limit. So what? Beerus hasn't shown an upper limit, and he got a monstrous universe-busting feat in Episode 12. Unless you unironically think Saitama solos entire franchises, which is just stupid. He's not Squirrel Girl. He's beaten entirely featless enemies. Until they get greater feats he can scale off of, he's going to remain largely unknown. It's just LOGIC. And the OPM universe has very clear rules within it already. Saitama cannot be hurt, maybe. But he can be budged. He's not Juggernaut. And he needs air to breath. And he can't fly. So really, replicate what Boros did, and Saitama is DEAD, period. I don't care what fanwankery goes on in your head to justify emphasizing one story's character over another's. That's favoritism and VS debating doesn't run that way.
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And the thing is, Saitama is not a character that's made for scaling. He is by all accounts, a joke character who in his own universe is made to be the strongest and a representation of an anime character who has gone through an entire series worth of growth. This joke is even further emphasized by the fact that OPM is for the most part, an action comedy series that pokes fun at superheroes and shonen series. By scaling him or in other words, taking him seriously to try and prove that he's weaker than your preferred character? You've effectively missed the entire point of the character.
Does that excuse the words and actions of fans who take potshots at people who disagree with them in these "Who Would Win?" debates? Obviously no and as someone who is a fan of both Dragon Ball and OPM, I'd say those people deserve all the ire that's present in the world since that is childish and closeminded. However, I'm not giving the vocal minority of the DB fandom any sort of special treatment or a pat on the head because like how you mentioned the OPM fandom has engaged in deplorable behavior, the DB fandom has also engaged in its fair share with one of its most noticeable problems being this needless trend of propping the preferred character up on a pedestal before then proceeding to verbally smackdown anyone who expresses a different opinion or in this case, call someone who is neutral a fanboy because they expressed that the behavior of people in these debates is bullshit. In fact to add to that, really think about what you just wrote here. In fact read this out:
"It is being a fanboy when you think that Saitama's character traits should override Goku's. OPM does not deserve special treatment, especially not after the deplorable behavior of its fandom, spreading lies to treat and overhype Saitama and exaggerate on what he can do."
If you don't see it, well I'll just express my thoughts. To me this looks like the ramblings of someone who is seriously way too insecure about their fandom and favorite character since seriously, most fans really would not give two shits on stuff like this. Again, as I said way earlier, these are fictional characters. Let me repeat this, these are FICTIONAL and more importantly, nothing that is ever said in these kinds of childish mudslinging sessions, if you are comfortable in your fandom, will NEVER devalue a character. That's why in particular I said this sounds insecure because unless someone is personally attacking your like of the character or somehow this outcome has been confirmed as being canon, this does nothing. This doesn't make Saitama look superior or inferior, the same goes for Goku and really all it does is make BOTH fandoms look like they're nothing but a bunch of children who can't handle real problems.
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No Saitama wouldn't stand a chance. Goku and Beerus nearly destroyed the universe. Saitama would never measure up to that.
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Not just the universe... all of creation...The battle tremors even affected the supreme world of the kais which exists in a pocket dimension outside the physical universe and otherworld.
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I keep seeing that piece of info being thrown around and honestly, I always wonder why since from what I gathered, the universe being shaken was just because it was a clash between two gods and that Goku couldn't do that on his own. Granted this is an interpretation and it has been awhile since I've seen the episode.
Still, I think Saitama stands a chance, I mean, a dude who has literally trained to the point where his hair falls off and monsters just die in one hit, just... damn. I think Goku can measure to that but my god he would still have to work for that victory.
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The only people Saitama fought would be complete fodder in the Dragon Ball verse. Goku has had far more impressive feats than Saitama. Those 2 weren't even going all out in that scene either, they were just testing their strengths. That would be like me and you arm wrestling and destroying the universe.
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Forgive me if I repeat anything AspiringCreator said.
Let's put it this way: In Death Battle: Goku vs Superman, Superman beat Goku for one main reason: Goku can overcome limits while Superman has no limits. Saitama has also been stated to have no limits. He can also survive the vaccum of space (though not perfectly like Superman), which Goku normally can't do. There's also the fact that we don't know what Saitama's full potential, as he held back during his fight with Boros (who basically is like Goku minus his flight). And this is coming from someone with a good amount of knowledge on both series.
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Superman beat Goku because the guys at Screwattack didn't know what they were doing lol. They aren't infallible you know.
Superman has limits. As has been stated by friggin DC and shown countless times in the series. Heck they didn't even show proper feats to support this claim XD. The book with infinite pages? Already floating in the air. Supes and Cap were trying to get through the energy field and right when they were about to touch the book, they were mind fragged. So..they failed to even touch the book, let alone touch it. And if it were really infinite, Captain Marvel wouldn't have been on the final chapter before they were mind fragged. So much for having infinite pages if it has a final chapter. "Lifting up Eternity" was kinda hilarious as the scan in question outright states Supes and Wonder Woman were failing to hold the Spectre up and it actually showed them sinking while they were holding the cape. So the guy failed at lifting Eternity(which is a measurement of time, not weight), yet they said he could.
Yeah..I wouldn't reference guys who don't even read their own scans mate.
Both Saitama andΒ Supes have limits. Saitamas normal punches have a limit to them for crying out loud as Garou and Boros could take one normal punch and keep on trucking. Seriously; the guy is radically above everyone from his universe. But he isn't limitless. And don't reference Genus and Genus only specializes in forcing evolution. Saitama is one big "what the hell!?" to the guy, an anomaly. So..he knows about as much as Saitamas powers as Saitama does himself.
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There's actually a lot of arguments to back up Goku can breathe in space. As a matter of face Goku went to the moon in Dragon Ball as a child. Also Saitama is not limitless. He is not omnipotent.
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That... actually makes sense. Granted Saitama has faced insane threats but yeah, it does make sense.
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Give me one person Saitama has faced that Goku wouldn't one shot in his base form.
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Probably the entire lot would be able to be one-shot by Goku but since he isn't the kind of guy to do that to weaker opponents, he probably won't face them at his full strength.
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Honestly I think Saitama would be a bit scared to fight Goku once he sensed his power.
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Maybe so but he would also be excited at the prospect of an actual challenge.
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Who cares? They are both fictional characters. I can make up one right now if I wanted to and have him instantly be stronger then either of them. It's all fun and games really.
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I mean't who cares about this on a serious level? Does Goku have better feats? Sure. But Saitama is a parody character that is not mean't to be taken seriously. By taking him seriously the fight is already lost. The whole point for his character existing is to win with ease no matter how much he might want a challenge. It's kinda similar to Toon force.
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You can say that about any main character in any anime/cartoon. The protagonist is meant to win. That excuse doesn't count.
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Actually it does for this specific one. The main struggle for this protagonist is that he simply CAN'T lose even if he wanted to. That's the joke.
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You can't use that excuse in Vs match ups. You can't just say "this character is meant to win all the time so he wins". You can say that about Batman, Superman, Spiderman, anyone.
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It matters if that is the character's defineing trait.
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Listen dude, I still don't care. I said my piece and was done.
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If you didn't care you wouldn't have replied.
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You deserved a response at least. I'm not just some random jerk.
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I do think it's insane for people to argue who would win in a fight with Saitama vs anyone. However, the series is kinda like Gintama: a parody, yes, but it does have plenty of serious themes thrown in here or there. It's not like Dr. Slump (which Akira Toriyama made, btw), which is just a parody of reality in general. It also doesn't help that ONE, the creator of the original One Punch Man webcomic, has said that Saitama has limitless potential, but he HAS compared the strength of other characters seriously to other characters (he compared Tatsumaki to Mob from his other manga, Mob Psycho 100, which is a LOT more serious).
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