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Description Sort of speaks for itself.

Oh yeah, and I'm totally shipping Musical!Giry and Book!Nadhir. No one's doing it, and they're pretty much the same character, so I think they'd hit it off very well.
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Artoveli In reply to ??? [2015-10-01 01:27:52 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha, we are certainly in a minority.

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MrsBooMuffin In reply to Artoveli [2015-10-01 02:19:00 +0000 UTC]

Minority club yeah! the just work so well together -3- I want to see it happen!

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juliamarie013 [2015-07-29 02:18:10 +0000 UTC]

And I SHIP NADIR AND MADAME GIRY LIKE YESSS

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Artoveli In reply to juliamarie013 [2015-08-04 14:37:10 +0000 UTC]

Welcome aboard!

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juliamarie013 [2015-07-29 02:17:23 +0000 UTC]

But yeah i agree 😂😂😂

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juliamarie013 [2015-07-29 02:16:24 +0000 UTC]

OMP I SHIP MADAME GIRY WITH NADIR LIKE SO MUCH GAHH

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Jojo1228 [2015-04-03 03:00:54 +0000 UTC]

I agree with every single word. -_-

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Artoveli In reply to Jojo1228 [2015-04-07 00:38:51 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, this was drawn at a time when we thought the danger was passed! How young we were.

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Jojo1228 In reply to Artoveli [2015-04-07 04:11:46 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. -_-

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KyraStrong [2013-06-08 18:08:24 +0000 UTC]

Whts so bad about LND

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Artoveli In reply to KyraStrong [2013-06-14 02:21:24 +0000 UTC]

Well, I would say there are several things wrong with it, but I really don't want to step on your toes if you enjoy it. To each their own, right?

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KyraStrong In reply to Artoveli [2013-06-14 03:19:25 +0000 UTC]

yeah.I did like it but whats so bad about it? it shows that erik and.christne still love each other after ten years I thought people would like that?

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Artoveli In reply to KyraStrong [2013-06-14 23:42:12 +0000 UTC]

Well okay, I'll tell you my MAIN reasons for disliking it.

Certain people like to see Erik and Christine get together again, it's true. And I just want to say now that I'm no Erik hater! I think he's a fantastic character and of course I feel super sorry for the guy. But remember when there was no LND?

Before the sequel came along, the story of the Phantom had a really good ending. Sad, sure, but the important thing was that Erik learned something. He learned that if he really loved Christine, he couldn't hurt her by keeping her with him, forcing her to marry him, and even killing her childhood best friend (Raoul). When she kissed him he realized that she was willing to give up her freedom to save Raoul, and it made him feel horrible for what he was doing to her, and he let her go. And we all cried. It was beautiful.

Love Never Dies takes all of that, crumples it up and tosses it over its shoulder. Erik's up to his old tricks, trying to lure Christine into a trap because apparently he learned nothing and is back to being a selfish jerk who doesn't care a bit for what Christine may actually want to do with her life.

It also has a bunch of silly story choices, not to mention a bit of impossible math (if Gustave had really been conceived "Ten long years" ago, he would not be "ten years ooooold!" at this point. Someone needs to explain gestation to Erik...)

Having said all that, I do think that Coney Island is a GREAT setting for a creepy-cool musical. Lots of the visuals in the recorded production are really nifty. But the plot is just such an unfortunate mess that it's impossible for me to enjoy the setting properly.

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KyraStrong In reply to Artoveli [2013-06-15 00:27:18 +0000 UTC]

hmm I never thought of that I c ur reasoning I never did.like raoul but he did care for christine also.I loved.coney island as.a.setting too

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ThePhantomsgirl [2013-05-24 12:47:44 +0000 UTC]

LND is just...stupid, because, erm, hello? i think i heard that most of it is about how erik and christine.... well you may know the plot...it just is so stupid.. AND CHRISTINE DIED?!!!!!! SHE IS SUCH A SWEET, GENTLISH CHARACHTER! WHY NOT LET HER LIVE!!!!!!

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Artoveli In reply to ThePhantomsgirl [2013-05-24 15:30:21 +0000 UTC]

It's baaaad. You can watch it in parts on YouTube! [link]

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ThePhantomsgirl In reply to Artoveli [2013-05-24 17:37:04 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Artoveli In reply to ThePhantomsgirl [2013-05-24 18:20:39 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha, don't thank me.

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ThePhantomsgirl In reply to Artoveli [2013-05-24 20:09:57 +0000 UTC]

so far it isn't killing me...but get the coffin READY!

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Asrath [2012-10-17 07:02:34 +0000 UTC]

YEAH, for god's sake... D:
LND just... hurts my eyes.
And Erik... a last name!? That makes no sense, since he's named after the priest/monk who baptised him.
Your style is so adorably cute <3

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Artoveli In reply to Asrath [2012-10-17 14:06:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Asrath In reply to Artoveli [2012-10-17 16:00:04 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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LaLadayCavalier [2012-06-21 01:49:15 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. Very, very much indeed.
SQUEE!

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Artoveli In reply to LaLadayCavalier [2012-06-21 04:52:51 +0000 UTC]

Are you squeeing about the ship, or something else?

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LaLadayCavalier In reply to Artoveli [2012-06-24 21:42:20 +0000 UTC]

Umm.... *looks like an idiot* I don't really know... Put it down to forgoing sleep for old movies all night.

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Artoveli In reply to LaLadayCavalier [2012-06-24 22:39:58 +0000 UTC]

Ha ha, quite alright.

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ChekovsCurlyHair [2012-04-23 23:42:15 +0000 UTC]

Erik has a last name?

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Artoveli In reply to ChekovsCurlyHair [2012-04-24 01:13:46 +0000 UTC]

In the book, "The Phantom of Manhattan." It's the story that the musical sequel is based on. It that (horrible) book he's called Erik Muhlheim.

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ChekovsCurlyHair In reply to Artoveli [2012-04-24 22:11:49 +0000 UTC]

That's not even French!

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Artoveli In reply to ChekovsCurlyHair [2012-04-25 00:03:15 +0000 UTC]

Well, he really doesn't have to be French. But, you know. Musical Erik doesn't even have a first name, if it comes to that.

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Belle-et-la-Bette [2012-04-03 21:00:56 +0000 UTC]

I Agree. Love Never Dies Should NEVER! Have been written. If he wanted to write a new musical about the owner of a 'freak show' and his old flame, why couldn't he have done it WITHOUT making it a Phantom follow on! Sorry, it's a pet hate, and I tend to rant about it...

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Artoveli In reply to Belle-et-la-Bette [2012-04-06 01:27:00 +0000 UTC]

Seriously. Ughhh, this musical...

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Ginger-Seat [2012-01-04 19:55:13 +0000 UTC]

Is this a real play/movie/whatever?

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Artoveli In reply to Ginger-Seat [2012-01-04 20:01:31 +0000 UTC]

Tragically, yes. [link] and then [link]

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Ginger-Seat In reply to Artoveli [2012-01-04 20:15:09 +0000 UTC]

Weird.

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Kadorienne [2011-05-25 19:20:51 +0000 UTC]

Word. It should die.

Why didn't they adapt Susan Kay's novel if they had to do something?

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Artoveli In reply to Kadorienne [2011-05-25 19:26:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, cause that wouldn't really have been a sequel. But I agree, it's certainly a better novel.

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ThePalindromeComplex [2011-02-17 04:38:25 +0000 UTC]

One of my friends who has never read the book was really surprised to discover the Daroga was an actual character. She was of the opinion that the Daroga was Erik's rare pet parrot that dropped boulders on Christine's head.

This comic made me laugh- Raoul's such a priss and I love Erik in the last panel.

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Artoveli In reply to ThePalindromeComplex [2011-02-17 15:13:10 +0000 UTC]

What is it about Raoul's statements here that make him a priss? Personally, I agree with him on all these counts!

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ThePalindromeComplex In reply to Artoveli [2011-02-17 17:17:47 +0000 UTC]

Nah, his statements were just fine, I'd agree with all of them. I was referring to his mass quantities of perfectly coiffed hair. But don't mind me, I'm just a former Raoul-hater that hasn't quite got around to liking him yet. Leroux's Raoul is a decent guy, which makes this whole deadbeat drunkard thing that much more ridiculous.

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Artoveli In reply to ThePalindromeComplex [2011-02-17 18:21:11 +0000 UTC]

I've always liked Raoul.

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ThePalindromeComplex In reply to Artoveli [2011-02-17 19:46:30 +0000 UTC]

I think that's why I didn't like him at first. He was so likeable. But he's definitely grown on me.

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ILuv2WritePoetry [2010-12-08 18:49:07 +0000 UTC]

;D LOLz.... I have to agree with all of them.... Excellent reasons for LND to die.

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Artoveli In reply to ILuv2WritePoetry [2010-12-08 19:00:09 +0000 UTC]

Indeed!

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VintageHorrorGeek [2010-11-30 23:58:44 +0000 UTC]

*Giggles uncontrollably now that they get it*
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Chapter XIV;The Singular Attitude of a Safety-Pin.

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Artoveli In reply to VintageHorrorGeek [2010-12-01 03:44:45 +0000 UTC]

Now that they get what?

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VintageHorrorGeek In reply to Artoveli [2010-12-01 05:09:46 +0000 UTC]

The joke,of course.
I never thought that this was funny until I found Phantom of Manhattan.
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Chapter XIV;The Singular Attitude of a Safety-Pin.

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Artoveli In reply to VintageHorrorGeek [2010-12-01 06:32:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh, YOU get it! Okay, the wording you used confused me. I'm glad you get it now, though it's such a painful experience.

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VintageHorrorGeek In reply to Artoveli [2010-12-01 06:53:27 +0000 UTC]

Uhg,yes.

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VintageHorrorGeek In reply to VintageHorrorGeek [2010-12-01 06:24:58 +0000 UTC]

"They" being myself.

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