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Seriously... For real tho... They should get a grip on themselves, not everyone who goes against a vegan diet is automatically a "Carnist" or a "Murderer", even Vegetarians are getting less respect from the Vegan community. It's just gotten really pathetic.But although I still respect Vegetarians for regularly relying on eggs and dairy while avoiding meat. And I also have my respects for Ex-Vegans, who have witnessed side effects that did them physical harm from the vegan diet. But what saddens me about these two is that they have fallen victim of the Alt-Vegan agenda. Militant Vegans won't shut up about how they are 'the healthiest they've ever been in years', and they even get into a lynch mob mentality when stumbling over meat-based sites and targeting innocent farmers and their families. It's just pure insanity, even when they bring common sense and high awareness of animal abuse on the table, their narcissistic, sociopathic attitude just obscures the message from being clearly absorbed from the viewer, even when anyone who honestly disagrees just makes a Militant vegan go troll-mode or attack-mode, whatever of the two. It's just gotta stop and slow down, cuz it's become a cult of delirium!
A note to vegans:
Stop living your life like you give a thousand shits about everybody, because let's face it, Nobody Cares if you're the healthiest person in the world, everybody in the world that you don't know is not going to applaud you or give you confetti over some some personal achievement you've made for yourself, only your friends and family can do that for you. Because if you live your life constantly worrying about everybody's views about your diet or moral stance, you're going to live a life full of disappointment and unhappiness. If you truly want to be proud of your own heath, focus on what you have achieved for yourself and don't go around bragging at other people about how healthy you are, especially in a debate. If they never asked you about how you're feeling, don't bring it up, it's that simple. Also don't tell people on how to live their lives, like commanding them to switch to supplements, or giving up wheat and dairy and all that just to make them live your ways, cuz they won't if you try to rub your beliefs onto their faces, if they never asked for it. Just please, slow down before you get into a meltdown... I'm begging you.
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You’re basically repeating the same thing the last person commented a while back. I do believe There should be major improvements on how animals should be finished before they are stripped up. But at the same time you can’t show that mentality towards average consumers who buy meat based products. In fact you should actually be placing the blame on the corrupt meat industry, which many vegans and non-vegans agree there should be reform.
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Yes, many Animal industries ARE corrupt, therefore I call for major improvements in animal treatment inside the meat industry then to close it all together. I’m not the person you think should be “this is how it must be and nothing else”, I’m not extremely vegan nor extremely carnivore, I stand in the middle of the spectrum.
If let’s say ~100 average consumers were informed about the harsh conditions inside the industries where the animals are killed for their meat. Many of them would either talk about ways to better improve industrial conditions, while others would begin exercising caution on which meat brand they spend on, or stop buying meat altogether. They don’t share one mind. You got to understand that most people who buy animal products are unaware of the problem, so if I were you I would think twice before painting them all with the same paintbrush.
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Respectfully disagreeing with you on the last sentence. I believe we should have nicer methods on how animals should be finished. I mean, Let’s not act so purist here, as far as agricultural progress is concerned, many farms are now relying on free range animal agriculture. Which means that instead of hundreds of animals being lined up in a slaughterhouse. They instead live in like I said; a free range environment where many of the animals get to live their whole lives freely and peacefully and are taken care of and looked after, and are offered natural food for them to grow and have a healthy lifestyle. Then when the time comes, once they get older and become less and less energized. Their meat can be sold. And also the people who buy their product are informed that the animal wasn’t harmed in any systematic way. Basically that’s my belief on how meat purchasing should be.
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Basically just don’t go after people who don’t agree with your standards and choose to have their own. It’s that simple. Just like how it is with religion and politics. People can choose what to believe and how to live, but there are boundaries that should be respected. You are entitled to your beliefs but you’re not entitled to say what others should be.
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Your like an anti-vaxxer. Claiming that something causes something in you.
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According to what I have researched. Milk has no connections with the cause of osteoporosis. If anything it manly has to do with age. Excessive consumption of coffee, and even gender. Many older women above the age of 50 who are diagnosed with osteoporosis consume more milk than the normal amount, because they believe it would help strengthen their bones, which in reality shows that would do more harm than good, because of how it’s being consumed at a large amount.
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Any vegan that leans to a more Puritan or absolutist position.
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As a vegan, I agree. Recently, I've noticed many vegan groups are becoming increasingly hostile towards non-vegans. Even when the person they were talking to was transitioning to veganism, they still berated them for not being vegan yet (as if they were vegan their entire lives, which I'm sure none of us were)
I've seen vegans bash vegetarians, omnivores, flexitarians, and pescatarians for no reason. Sometimes I would try to step in and say "hey, let's be kind" only to have several of them bash me for "betraying the cause" or whatever bullshit. I've started distancing myself from vegan communities. They're becoming so judgmental. Between having a shitty community and having no community, I'd rather have no community.
Ultimately, there's one basic rule we should all follow: live and let live. Don't judge people for their diets, good grief. And sure as hell don't force it on people.
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I absolutely Love what you said right there! I'd too go for No Community if we want to have peace alongside vegetarians like in the past. Usually in most other websites like Instagram or Facebook, a vegan who is so honest, patient and understanding like you are Extremely rare, very likely to the point where we think that a person like that doesn't exist at all in the Vegan/Animal Rights community. It's all run by people who are deluded, mentally insane and selfish, and what I mean by that is it's not what they keep for themselves, it's what they want everything in the world to be in their social view.
And it's evident that most vegan activists and influencers don't act by what they preach, like for example the word "compassion" is a joke, they reserve that term for the common species of animals that they cherry pick for their propaganda (cows, pigs, and chickens for the most part) and not practice that term for humans whatsoever, only for humans that are gullible to believe their vegan prejudices.
The reason why Vegans attack, harass and victimize normal people for having a different diet is because they believe in narcissism and superiority for how they live, sometimes they don't like to hear that their diet is just a diet cuz they believe that it's more than a diet, they see it as a moral high-ground that makes them so "morally superior" than everybody else in every culture, they think that anyone who doesn't agree with them should be shunned off to an eternity of Holocaust-style suffering, darkness and systematic discrimination, which to every stable sane person is completely stupid and fucked up in every direction. It's like saying a Rabbit or a Cow is more worthy because they eat plants and grass and think carnivorous animals like Wolves and Tigers should be tortured in an asylum for eating deer, it's a huge misunderstanding of how nature truly works.
They don't need "compassion", what they need is Maturity.
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Absolutely! The community is very toxic and extremely hypocritical. It's embarrassing. I wish more were as compassionate as they claim. They're so wrapped up in animal rights that they tend to forget about human freedom. Militant vegans don't really have a good excuse for their behavior, either. If a 15 year old can grasp the concept of "live and let live," then surely they should be able to understand it too. Shouting at people about how evil they are for eating meat doesn't accomplish anything. All it does is breed hate and spite.
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IKR?
Obviously I do not hate vegans at all, only the militant ones. There are bad apples in every community.
Since militant vegans are giant hypocrites just like most toxic people, they complain about non-vegans making fun of vegan food yet they make fun of food from different cultures.
There was a militant vegan who complained about people making fun of vegan food and he shamed people for eating hot pot and called it "leftover dishwater", not realizing it's foreign food. Hot Pot is a Chinese dish that's commonly eaten in East Asia and as an Asian person, I was not amused with that militant vegan's hypocritical attitude.
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I completely understand where you are coming from. I too enjoy hot pot, I enjoy it so much I go to restaurants that have it only for special occasions. But yeah, I've dealt with a Militant Vegan on IG who talked like he didn't respect culture, and maybe must've made fun of people's excuses about cultural meat consumption. Let alone how "progressive" and "cruelty free" he would claim to be.
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I haven't had hot pot in ages and really want to try it again.
Most people who constantly claim to be cruelty-free or progressive are actually not. People who abuse animals the most are actually the ones who constantly claim to be cruelty-free. It's also annoying how people act as if veganism is limited to white people just because many of the militant vegans happen to be white. Veganism is a universal eating lifestyle.
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Militant vegans really give good vegans and vegetarians a bad name.
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Veganism started simply as a way of life, a lifestyle made as a way for us to be more conscious about certain foods and where they come from. Now Vegans who use Veganism to impose it on others simply for control and ego are corrupting it, sometimes off of pure idiocy and lack of thought.
Today’s vegans put so much into it with misleading beliefs, attack and slander people who disagree, use the common types of farm animals for propaganda, become intolerant to criticism, post bloody scenes of animal torture to pull on people’s emotions, and use words like “compassion” and “moral stance” to hide their hypocrisy.
Veganism. Is. Being. Corrupted. By. Delusional. Selfish. Egomaniacs.
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According to some researchers plants do feel pain
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Plants feeling pain was something that I have found as ludicrous, Vegans would deny this theory by saying that plants don’t feel pain. I know that plants don’t feel pain, but they can display signs of stress at a different reaction than animals and humans combined. I did the google search and I found this:
youtu.be/LeLSyU_iI9o
This video is fascinating to me because this can be helpful for anyone who wants to back up the claim that plants CAN feel pain, not with screaming, but with fluorescent light.
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Well they don't have our style of nerv systems.(I hope I use the correct term, my biology classes were not in English)
I didn't mean to state is as my claim.
Oh cool and interesting.
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This is why I stay completely hush about my vegetarian diet, the stigma is real now thanks to them.
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Some militant vegans are stupid too. They will think that they have the logic and moral high ground, while meat-eaters and vegetarians do not. That’s like saying pigs and rabbits are given a higher platform for being more valid of their logic and wolves and foxes do not.
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I understand you. We are living at an age of great insecurity.
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True that, and unfortunately I don't see it getting better but worse.
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Yeah I can see that. I too got targeted by militant vegans when I explained my opinions that contradicts the vegan diet on Instagram. I’ve seen it first hand, for an hour or two I could challenge or debunk anything they believe is logical like “humans don’t need a cows breast milk”, “you can get B12 by taking supplements”, or “farming should only apply to plants and not animal slavery”, etc, etc. And eventually in the end they would overreact and start slandering me, thinking that I’m some kind of evil person for sticking to dairy or meat. It’s pathetic, they can’t control their own insanity. I guess misinformation and delusions are what keeps a cult afloat...
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I haven't gotten targeted by extreme vegans, but more like if people find out I'm vegetarian then they might believe I'm like that, that I will judge their diets and think I'm superior to them...etc. I have my reasons for not eating meat, but I don't desire nor need to voice it. And in fact I tend to discourage vegetarianism and instead say just eat healthy kinds of meats properly prepared at home. Human bodies have a biological need for the vitamins and nutritional value that can only come from meat.
With a vegetarian diet, it can be done but it's not easy and if you don't keep on top of your vitamin and protein requirements you could become anemic or worse.
LOL, if you HAVE to take supplements like pills then obviously it's because your diet is missing something very essential.
It's best to stay out of their way, it's not worth the heated discussions when they don't respect other people's decisions and opinions, going as far as slandering and calling you names like children.
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