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Politics aside; I find this piece damn funny (albeit in a rather cynical way)
Why in particular? Because of the number of people where I am who complain about immigrants taking what is "rightfully theirs" yet refuse to work themselves, because they see themselves as being too good for the jobs and pay level that said immigrants experience. Also, the number of people leeching off our benefit system and still moaning when someine else wants to work their ass off just to get less money for it..
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((I agree; that's kinda why I drew this. It's almost satirical. I don't think the majority of people who complain about it are necessarily lazy, but people generally don't like to work low wage jobs or cheap labour. But who can blame them? It's tough working long hours just to pay your phone bill. The only reason us immigrants take the jobs no one else takes is because we have no other choice. In Japan, I always got paid less than my co-workers, as both a woman and a person of colour, but I had no other choice. And yeah people like to hire us because they like us cheap. And we work for no benefits.))
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I can't believe some of the ignorant comments in here, yet at the same time, it's hardly surprising.
I may be snowy white with an equally snowy white racist family, despite the fact that we now have a mixed-race baby. (We may have a family member who is racially diverse in a similar fashion to Dido Elizabeth Belle's upbringing, but this does not mean my family is not racist towards other POC and having a family member who is a minority does excuse the racist views of the rest of my family.) Therefore, I have white privilege and will never know what this kind of discrimination and lack of economic opportunities is like; I can't say that I do or will ever. However, I fully support immigration, but I don't support the media's use of the word ''illegal'' immigrant. It evokes negative stereotypes and creates an inaccurate vision of immigrants as criminals. I believe the term ''economic refugee'' is more acceptable. Or just plainly ''immigrant'' if that is what some of you may prefer.
With that being said, your insanely vibrant artwork is truly inspiring as well as your essay-length artist's comment below. It invites viewers into an uncomfortable, yet realistic world and forces your more privileged audience members to think about a social issue that they do not experience and will never fully comprehend.
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((I'm not surprised. But I won't disable comments because I'm not afraid of what people have to say. Let them have an opinion.
I also dislike the word ''illegal'' and ''alien''. It's dehumanising and feeds the hate machine. I prefer ''immiGREAT'' because it sounds less shameful. There's too many negative connotations with politically correct or incorrect terms these days. But I'm not ashamed to say I came to another country to better myself.
Thanks by the way, I always appreciate your comments. Sorry it took so long for me to reply, I forget to log on to this account most of the time~))
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Sorry, one more comment:
Concerning the immigration ''problem'' in the UK, there's a film I highly recommend that I just happened to remember: Ghosts (2006), which is a dramatisation of the 2004 Morecambe Bay cockling disaster of the Chinese immigrants. Here's the trailer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sdTDZ…
It's a very bleak, depressing movie though, but not unrealistic.
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I didn't want to spam the comments section of your profile and given this is related, but I saw this making its rounds on the wonders of the Internet, and while I'm certain you've likely seen this, I know this is important to you: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11…
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That's a good mindset. Some of these comments are enough to turn my hairs grey. Thankfully I'm not wielding a gun.
Totally agree. One of the reasons I'm replying a little late to this is because your comments gave me an idea for a new piece for your ImmiGREAT group, and I had to sketch it out before I lost the idea. I only have a line art finished right now, but hopefully I can get it done soon. I scaled it down a bit too just so it would take less time to finish it.
You're always welcome, love. I continually look forward to these pieces even if I don't always find the time to join the discussion. These issues are just as important to me as they are to you.
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Yes, I do support illegal imigration.
Do you know why child labor exists? It's because they their parents don't have the money to feed their children. They are so poor that if they don't send their children away them, and their child will die. What will they do, they know that their child will be mistreated. If they don't migrate illegally they'll die with their son. They know even if their son gets out when he's eighteen he will have to illegally immigrate also or they'll die.
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Yes I support immigration
We should give people opportunities and lazy American don't do half the work immigrants do also they make up 10 percent of the population also provides diversity. Of course I believe we should send the criminals or drug dealers back but the rest are innocent and just come to the U.S for a better life and do more good than harm in our economy.
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Put yourself in their shoes!!!
I absolutely support illegal immigration, for those who don't, think of it this way, if the USA was a country where there was much poverty and you had a family to support and keep from starving, what would you do? And you knew that Mexico(for example) was prospering and booming and you would be able to find something that could earn you enough to feed you kids. You'd want to go legally but you don't speak Spanish and it takes time and money to do that, and and you don't have either. Now don't tell me you wouldn't go...
We don't have any sort of idea of their situations. Even the ones bring drugs, you have no idea if they or their family is being threatened. Before you say you don't support it, turn the tables.
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Borders are simply evil.
As an animal that eats and breaths and lives on this earth you should never be confined to a border. This land is not MY land. The US is simply a mass of dirt that I am able to roam. As humans we have a natural right to roam wherever we want! The idea that LAND is entitled to a single human being or group of people is illogical. I'm not entitled to my front yard and you should not feel entitled to yours. I live in the United States and I am a "citizen" of the United States but this is not my country. I am not an american. I belong on earth not the US.
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I support immigration. Yes, America was founded by immigrants.
Illegal is such a strong word. Just another way to say, "this is ours, you cant come in." I understand the need to have population control and accurate economic readings, but I think immigrants deserve to be here as much as we do. If the path wasn't so hard and expensive, they would just do it the normal way.
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The elephant in the room no one wants to talk about---
all of the past immigrants--Germans, Italians, Irish, French, British, had one thing in common--can you guess what it is?
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I'm happy to let others live in their country while I live in the one I was born in. You see, that's tolerance.
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Tolerance does not dictate that we continue to flood the nation with imported workers, especially at a time when our domestic labor force has shrunk by almost half.
Fewer people in this nation are working than at any time since the 1930s. Those who have lost jobs and have given up on looking may not count in unemployment percentages, but they most surely count to me.
The American citizens who have been displaced from the workforce should be our number 1 priority, well above in importance the plight of those who broke our laws to be here or those not yet here.
Since it is difficult at best to deport all the people here illegally, tolerance dictates merely that we tolerate their presence here. But there should be no tangible benefit given to those who broke our laws.
And, at the very least, that benefit should not enure to illegal immigrants BEFORE our pporous border is secured.
Support for the Gang of 8 Senate Bill is support for an open border, as no border security provision, and no actual reduction in illegal immigration, needs to be achieved BEFORE legal status is granted.
Legal status is granted immediately, and ALL securitty provisions are made subject to the discretion of the DHS Secretary as to whether they will EVER be implemented.
But again, I have no tolerance for increasing the importation of foreign workers while so many American workers remain displaced from our labor force.
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The flaw in your argument is the mislabel "worker." People are more than just workers. They are consumers, parents, husbands, and children. We aren't importing robots.
If you are such an advocate of working, why are you against giving immigrants work permits?
Also, perhaps you should read a book on economics. There isn't a finite number of jobs in the economy. America started out with 3 million people. Today more than 100 million people are working. Where did the 100 million jobs come from? Jobs grow with the population. If you don't understand that basic economic truth, then you can't make an informed decision about immigration policy.
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Until they change the system, which will happen about the middle of next week. They don't understand the system and they don't like the system. They want what we have but hate what we are.
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Life isn't fair, old boy. Some people are more talented or better-looking than others, or are born U.S. Citizens. That doesn't mean the talented must hold themselves down to the level of the untalented, or that U.S. Citizens must throw open the country's borders until third-world peasants overrun the country and completely trash it. If you want to improve these people's lives, why don't you devote yourself to establishing capitalism in their home countries instead of doing your best to import them here so they can destroy everything we have?
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Right because immigration is literally like rape...
"I'm happy to let others live in their country while I live in the one I was born in. You see, that's tolerance."
Also that's easy to say when you live in the greatest country on Earth and they don't.
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So what? It IS ours. Why should we just give it over to foreigners, whose it is NOT? And who have disrespected our laws and harmed our country and our economy. We should just start deporting -- just like every other self-respecting country does. It's the law there as well as here.
It would be great if we had leaders who did what their constituents want. And they don't want their country to turn into a third-world hell hole, which it will, with the numbers of low education, high welfare consuming individuals coming in and already here.
And then there are the idiots like you who are the farthest thing from the type of person we should want in this country. You obviously have no love for it. Just want what you can get out of it and betray everyone here by handing it free to lawbreakers who are absolutely undeserving, ignoring that there is any rule of law.
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I am actually pretty libertarian and I have made the taxation is theft argument myself many times. I'm with you there. But recognizing another person, an immigrant in this case, as an equal, doesn't cost you a dime.
Free and open immigration built this country. Sure it was legal, but only because there weren't any laws restricting immigration, like there are now.
I am against welfare, but I don't pretend it's the immigrants fault that we have a welfare state. They can't even vote. Welfare is a homegrown problem, don't blame it on
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No one's blaming immigrants for the welfare state they're merely pointing out the indisputable reality that indiscriminately granting amnesty to a vast and growing illegal alien population will necessarily have a vast exacerbatory impact upon the entitlement crisis.
It's irresponsible, immoral, and unpatriotic to avoid deep and reasoned consideration of this paradigm in any discussion of "immigration reform", the liberal euphemism for amnesty schemes for illegals.
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If immigrants are allowed in legally, sooner or later they'll become citizens and they will vote - Democratic. That will end any hope you have of ending excessive taxation or the Welfare State.
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But they are coming here for the welfare as much as for anything else. And they WILL change our country, irrevocably, and WE don't want that. It's really hard to understand why YOU DO.
The only answer is that you are too ignorant to realize just how this country got the way it is. The current group of immigrants has no similarity at all to those who came earlier (and it was not as you say "free and open"). It may have been for a very short time, but it was not during the large immigration periods when we took in many because we needed railroads, roadways and waterways constructed.
Even then, with those large needs, immigration was orderly, well organized, and there were laws to adhere to. Don't pretend there weren't. You just show your ignorance.
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Just because 57% of immigrants from Mexico are getting welfare, don't blame it on foreigners. Blame it on Americans who pretend that importing cheap 3rd world labor doesn't cost you a dime.
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Why is it that there is so much hostility over multilingualism? Canada is bilingual French and English and they get along happily. I note both French and Anglophone Canadians are white, but I digress...
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"Canada is bilingual French and English and they get along happily."
Really? Then why does Quebec try and secede every five to ten years???
That's not an indicator of "getting along happily."
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The problem now is we have almost made it unnecessary to assimilate. Almost any transaction you wish to make is available to you in Spanish. Even govt. services and licenses can be given without knowing English. I hold a commercial drivers license and there are requirements about knowing english but yet I run across people nearly every day that can't speak more than 10 words of english but yet they have one of these licenses. We have LaRaza working hard to ensure they don't have to assimilate.
I am not saying we have to deport anyone but at the same time we don't have to grant them legal status now. They are not in any danger. They are not living in fear or "in the shadows" Let's get the border secure. Let's get the visa system under control. Stop the overstays. Let's stop giving govt. welfare services to illegals. Let's stop granting them in state tuition to college. If we do all of these things, then we can work on a plan to deal with the ones that are already here.
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When I travel to Europe every year, no matter what the local language is, I notice that almost any transaction you wish to make is available to you in English.
In those few occasions when that is not, you Yanks complain.
Yet you don't want to afford the same conveniences to foreigners in your own land.
What's up with that, dude?
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Others accept English because they want US dollars. End of story.
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That's one thing I noticed: We complain when foreigners come here and don't speak English.
And we complain when we visit other countries that they don't speak English.
Whites want everything their way. So when we put up signs in Spanish it's no different than foreign countries putting up signs in English. But we STILL complain.
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Economically it increases unemployment and drives down wages while increasing welfare costs. Morally, it destroys the country I love, so that my children will live in a balkanized 3rd world country with less wealth, safety and freedom as 3rd world corruption becomes the new normal. You think freedom can survive as you destroy our culture. That theory is naive.
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you are incorrect as usual.
you have no depth in basic economics.
immigration does not increase unemployment or drive down wages. increasing "welfare costs" are not not the fault of the immigrants, it is the fault of the Welfare State, under who's sole discretion and control chooses to dole it out to whoever it wants.
there is NO freedom in america.
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Come on...NO freedom! We have the freedom to organize and protest (unless its against the party in power). We have the freedom of speech (unless we say mean things about those in power). Alright...give me a second. Here's one! We have the right to choose smoking/non smoking (wait that's gone too),
Seriously, we have freedom...just not as much as we used to have
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heh : )
i am always amazed at those people who proclaim how much "freedom" we have, when i can't even even drink a (heavily taxed) beer at the park "legally".
Has anyone here heard of the patriot act? that "law" is chock full of "freedoms".
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Given the existing system of laws and regulations that govern the growing madness that is America, increased immigration certainly increases unemployment AND drives down wages and increases the costs of the welfare state.
The welfare state is real. Until and unless it magically disappears, any policy prfeences must be evaluated within the contrained economic and political model that defines the current reality of America.
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not so much, no one seems to ever looks at the "whole picture"
i, of course, am opposed to welfare in all of its forms, even for "citizens"
i am not opposed to immigrants, i am opposed to the artificial label of "legal and illegal"
america is not "governed", it is "ruled", and there is a difference.
immigrants (people) are not the problem. it is the State that is the problem. immigrants are only a scapegoat and distraction for the masses, a bogeyman like "terrorists", merely tools of the State.
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Here is the problem. I'm married to a woman from another country. We went through all of the hoops and paid all the fees and put up with all the hassle to do everything legally. She now has her green card and can become a citizen in 5 years. I will be willing to bet that once this amnesty bill passes it will be less than 2 years before these people that broke our laws get to be citizens and they won't have to pay a single penny for fines or taxes. That is what grinds my gears. The same ones pushing this know that it does not one thing to stop more illegals from doing the same thing, knowing we'll give them the same deal.
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I know you went through a tough path for your wife, but spousal immigration is famous for being the EASIEST immigration path. Heck the first thing my lawyer asked me when I was discussing my immigration status was if I had a girlfriend I could marry. So you can imagine how much more the other immigrants go through.
About half of the illegal population has gone through this. Remember, they came legally, but then couldn't go the whole away due to some quota or some deadline. It's almost arbitrary how it's decided who gets to stay and who doesn't.
It's hard to argue that illegal immigrants have it better than legal ones, considering they aren't allowed to travel, work, drive, go to school etc. I think simply be living so long as a second class citizen they have paid somewhat of a price, and the rest we will extract in fines and fees.
As for future illegal immigration, I don't see how 20k border patrol agents won't reduce it, and the CBO says it'll go down by upto 50%.
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That's really interesting--appreciate you sharing, as it adds a lot of context to the discussion. I'm sure it's an incredible hassle to do everything legally. I certainly understand that it would seem unfair if people who didn't jump through all the hoops were given a quicker path to citizenship, although I don't see that your wife would be any worse off, strictly speaking. But I think that many people who are defending immigration would also want to see an easier path for your wife.
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A common refrain. Fear and loathing of immigrants has a long and illustrious history in this country and so many others. They're the easiest scapegoat for all of society's ills.
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This is NOT the same country that assimilated all those other immigrants.
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If the fact is that it's not the same country that assimilated immigrants in the past... well, I guess you could make that case in lots of ways. This country no longer sanctions slavery; this country allows women to vote (ok, that wasn't the best move--so many democrats); this country no longer bans Asians from immigrating as it did in 1924.
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In the past we did not have: welfare, food stamps, affirmative action and a hyper active racial grievance industry. No, this is not the same country that assimilated immigrants in the past.
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As a citizen you can commit way more and way worse crimes and still be eligible for welfare, so don't make it sound like you have it worse. You don't. The immigrants do. They aren't allowed to have federal welfare, but the Supreme Court has said Congress can't bind the states. So if you feel so bad about immigrants getting state welfare in your state, talk to your state reps and Governor. Don't pin it on the immigrants. They aren't your representatives.
As for the petty crime waivers, that's not for welfare eligibility, it's immigration eligibility. Immigrants aren't gonna be getting means-tested federal welfare, period.
Oh and as a bonus, we are confiscating their social security contributions if they weren't work authorized. POOR US RIGHT???
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Did I miss something? Illegals can't legally have Social Security numbers, and don't pay SS taxes. So "we" can't be confiscating their SS contributions as they don't make any.
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I don't care what you guys think about immigration but how can you possibly say all this stuff in front of Asante? Really guys?
Be a little considerate.
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She's not Mexican or illegal, we're just talking about those guys.
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