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Rubbocodille [2018-08-11 10:53:30 +0000 UTC]
While Shadow Mario (not Graffiti Mario, please ) deserve to be Bowser Jr.'s Final Smash. Do you realize you already have Young Link, Ridley, Dark Samus, Wolf, Mewtwo and Inkling in Smash Ultimate?
Your prediction for the Switch was pretty accurate. Sadly, for Ultimate : Ashley, Krystal and Shovel Knight are Assist Trophy, while Protoman is only a part of Mega Man's Final Smash.
Good Luck for Dixie Kong, Impa, Black Shadow and Shadow! I personally want them all, plus Waluigi, Captain Toad, Skull Kid, Tails, Eggman and Banjo & Kazooie (one day... one day)! ^^
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pokeball012 [2016-01-22 21:06:05 +0000 UTC]
visit my page please
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InklingGirl99 [2015-12-12 23:04:49 +0000 UTC]
Where Is Pichu , Is She Calling In Sick?
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NeoduelGX [2014-10-13 21:54:33 +0000 UTC]
am I allowed to suggest characters?
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aurafox4 In reply to NeoduelGX [2015-03-03 01:59:01 +0000 UTC]
Go ahead!
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NeoduelGX In reply to aurafox4 [2015-03-03 03:03:24 +0000 UTC]
I suggest Roll (from the Megaman Classic series).
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DnMStarsi [2014-09-20 14:16:59 +0000 UTC]
Multiple reps from a 3rd party series is out of the question. It doesn't matter if a 3rd party franchise is popular or has a lot of history with Nintendo. Only one per company.
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aurafox4 In reply to DnMStarsi [2014-09-22 01:01:01 +0000 UTC]
Tell me, where are these rules written? There is no set of rules deciding whether a character should and shouldn't fit in. I could make Protoman and Shadow alternate costumes but what fun would that be when they can be stand-alone characters? Albeit Protoman is a clone with his shield being the primary difference.
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DnMStarsi In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-22 01:49:41 +0000 UTC]
It's an obvious rule for people to pick since SSB is a fighting game consistening of Nintendo's franchises. Mega Man and Sonic aren't owned by Nintendo but they do have some connection with the company so one fighter, assist and stage from their series and company are in.
And yeah, there is for non-Nintendo fighters as Sakurai stated that more non-Nintendo characters ruins the purpose of SSB. It doesn't matter if they're popular or have a good connection or represents an already included series, only ONE gets in. End of story.
Shadow's lucky enough to be an assist and their inclusion is a waste to other deserving 3rd parties although 4 is probably the limit for 3P fighters.
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aurafox4 In reply to DnMStarsi [2014-09-22 02:11:40 +0000 UTC]
Sakurai has also said he'd probably never add Villager or Miis for fear of ruining their innocent demeanor. The Megaman franchise represents Nintendo's history just as much if not more as, say, Ice Climbers and as of recently Sonic has been completely exclusive to Nintendo consoles.Β
Keep in mind, this is not official. This is my opinion on characters that I would like to see in. Of course, there is some bias towards certain characters. It's impossible to predict Sakurai and as such that is not nearly what I'm trying to do. This is simply an idea for what I would put in the game if I was in Sakurai's position. Inclusion of Shadow and Protoman isn't "a waste" because this list is ignoring the limitation of time and at this point memory constraints aren't a problem at all either. If worse comes to worst they could easily just make the game have less trophies or customization options for the sake of a more diverse roster. The only reason certain characters such as Isaac aren't mentioned in this list is simply because I didn't think to add them. The newcomers in this list are simply the ones for whom I came up with off the top of my head. There's plenty more that could be added.Β
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DnMStarsi In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-22 02:32:23 +0000 UTC]
He said that but they're still owned by Nintendo. Mega Man isn't. It doesn't matter if he represents a huge part of Nintendo history, he's still Capcom property and not a Nintendo exclusive. Sonic was recently exclusive due to a partnership but that's expiring soon after Sonic Boom is out and he'll be back in other consoles. No matter what you say or prove, only ONE character per company makes it into the playable roster and that's a fact.
Opinion or not, this will never happen. And beside that, we ALL have opinions and IMO, unless you're doing a SSBX (X being Cross BTW), you should be faithful to the actual rosters like having only one 3rd party fighter that originated as a VG character and appeared in a Nintendo console.
And BTW they ARE a waste b/c other characters from other series deserve it more than another Sonic or Mega Man rep.
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aurafox4 In reply to DnMStarsi [2014-09-22 02:53:44 +0000 UTC]
I could easily add other characters alongside them. How could they possibly be a waste?Β
As said before, this is just what I would do. I don't have a problem with you sharing your opinion. I just don't like limiting myself to formalities. I have particular bias towards Shadow simply because Sonic Adventure 2 is my favorite game of all time and I could easily think of a unique moveset for him. He may be unlikely in the actual SB5, but I would put him in if I could. Just like Sakurai clearly has a bias towards his creations, (Just about every feature in any Smash Bros game is based on another game of his and vice versa) I have a bias towards my favorite characters.
Of the two in question, I'd say Protoman is more likely simply because of what seems to be Sakurai's mindset on clones vs. costumes. Protoman could start as an alt to Megaman but after a short while, they decide to make him a stand alone character after seeing the potential of the shield. Isn't that what happened with Lucina? Sure he's 3rd party but does that really mean Megaman can't have any interesting alts? It'd be stupid to limit yourself like that. Especially when you clearly have the ability to add the other characters into the game via trophies, assists, enemies, etc.
But whether or not the character is likely doesn't matter in this case because, once again, it's just what I would do.
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DnMStarsi In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-22 09:39:02 +0000 UTC]
To be faithful to the series, add 3rd parties willy-nilly defeats the purpose of a Nintendo franchise fighting game. A few guests is ok but if you're adding another character from the same franchise as the 3rd party series, people wouldn't be too happy that another Sonic and Mega Man rep got in over more deserving 3rd parties who have history with the series.
Sometimes with your choices, you can be a little bias but note that with a series like SSB, you have to be faithful to the source material and except to explain their "inclusion" as you did. But note that, there are some inclusions for a dream roster that aren't realistically possible like two reps of the same 3rd party franchise in the playable roster.
We all can dream though?
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TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-16 12:04:16 +0000 UTC]
Just so you know Inkling is the name of the Splatoon character.
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aurafox4 In reply to TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-17 22:09:38 +0000 UTC]
I don't think that was official, a treehouse member refereed to them as Inklings and said "At least that's what I call them"
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TippyToe-Zombie In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-18 21:39:55 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty sure it is, but I could be wrong.
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aurafox4 In reply to TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-19 00:20:02 +0000 UTC]
I could be wrong too, but unless I know for sure I'll just give it a generic name.
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TippyToe-Zombie In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-19 08:07:53 +0000 UTC]
Alright. So we're both willing to admit that we may be wrong... That's big of us.
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Royle-McCulloch [2014-09-13 22:40:37 +0000 UTC]
Reality: 10 veteran cuts.Β None from Mario, Kirby, or Kid Icarus.
5 more mario Reps. 3 more kid Icarus reps, and two more absolutely now sense bull shit joke characters.
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Foremem [2014-09-13 15:16:10 +0000 UTC]
I would have gone with Shantae over Shovel Knight (or the two together) but other than that, nice roster.
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aurafox4 In reply to Foremem [2014-09-13 17:26:40 +0000 UTC]
I could see Shante too. I chose Shovel Knight because I've never played Shante's games and Shovel Knight seemed like a fun, silly character. I could also easily think of a moveset based around powering Shovel Knight up by collecting Gems from one of his special moves. The drawback is that the stronger he is, the slower he gets.
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Andyjoe522 [2014-09-12 20:56:46 +0000 UTC]
For the record, Shulk is NOT a third party character. Nintendo owns 97% of Monolith Soft, making them a first party Nintendo subsidiary, and Xenoblade a first party Nintendo franchise, same as the likes of Fire Emblem.
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aurafox4 In reply to Andyjoe522 [2014-09-13 03:00:05 +0000 UTC]
I grouped him with the 3rd party characters simply because of Sakurai's statement that he's a character who "would not normally be in"
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Andyjoe522 In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-13 05:05:07 +0000 UTC]
That doesn't make him 3rd party. He's a Nintendo owned character, just like Mario, Link, Samus, etc. Heck, Nintendo has a bigger claim to him than they do any of the PokΓ©mon.
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aurafox4 In reply to Andyjoe522 [2014-09-13 14:33:32 +0000 UTC]
I'm not saying it does. I'm just saying that's why I grouped him with them.Β
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Kaiology [2014-09-12 20:26:34 +0000 UTC]
Most of those are extremely unlikely.Β
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aurafox4 In reply to Kaiology [2014-09-13 03:01:00 +0000 UTC]
I don't know how you can say any character is unlikely when we have Duck Hunt and Wii Fit Trainer. Care to elaborate?
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Kaiology In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-13 14:24:41 +0000 UTC]
Mostly the extra third parties like Shadow. A third party is meant to represent a series with ONE character. This is a Nintendo game, and guests are okay, but we don't need someone like Shadow.
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aurafox4 In reply to Kaiology [2014-09-13 14:32:04 +0000 UTC]
Well I don't think it's out of the question to add extra characters from Sonic and Megaman since Megaman started out on the NES and it wasn't until Megaman 8 that it was moved to the Playstation. Sonic has pretty much exclusively only had games made for Nintendo consoles recently as well. I would have added a second Xenoblade character but I've never played Xenoblade myself.
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Kaiology In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-13 15:40:35 +0000 UTC]
They aren't ever going to add in extra third parties to an already existing third party series.Β
Xenoblade is not 3rd party by the way. Xenoblade is 1st party.Β
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aurafox4 In reply to Kaiology [2014-09-13 17:28:06 +0000 UTC]
I know. I grouped him with 3rd party characters specifically because Sakurai called him a character that "would not normally appear in Smash Bros." and absolutely no other reason. He's grouped with the 3rd party characters in SB4 as well.
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SuperAbachiBro [2014-09-12 13:49:22 +0000 UTC]
Not bad, but it should have Rayman in it to make up the lack of playable Rayman in this game.
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aurafox4 In reply to SuperAbachiBro [2014-09-13 03:06:51 +0000 UTC]
Rayman could make for an interesting character, but Rayman isn't nearly on the same level of popularity as Sonic, Megaman, etc. Most of my selections aren't based on representation of the franchise but rather characters who I have unique ideas for, with the exception of the one newcomer clone, Protoman, who I added only because clones don't take up any extra space and I felt like an alt wouldn't do him justice because he wouldn't be able to use his signature element, his shield. As for Rayman, I can't really think of anything he could do to stand out from the crowd and be unique. Of course, I don't play Rayman games much so I wouldn't be sure.
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SuperAbachiBro In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-14 03:39:34 +0000 UTC]
If you played Origins and Legends, then you would understand.
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ArtsyKyo [2014-09-12 11:26:58 +0000 UTC]
I like your ideas! please make the next smash bros.
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aurafox4 In reply to ArtsyKyo [2014-09-13 03:08:10 +0000 UTC]
Haha I wish.
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TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-12 05:27:10 +0000 UTC]
I think Isaac will be a big priority for the next Smash (Especially since you only have two new franchises), I don't think Shovel Knight is likely, but he's definitely not a bad choice. I'd definitely also add K. Rool. This is definitely a solid roster.
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aurafox4 In reply to TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-13 03:16:14 +0000 UTC]
This is a very early roster concept, so there are some things I haven't looked into much. I pretty much just had a text document that I threw ideas into whenever they popped into my head and that's where this roster came from. I might put a lot more thought into it and look at previous assist trophies for ideas of characters. As for the likeliness of Shovel Knight, I'd say literally any character is equally likely. And if there are people out there who think Snake will return, then I don't think it's out of the question at all to suggest Shovel Knight. I never really considered K. Rool but, since I added Ridley, my only argument against him would be the fact that I already had a moveset idea for Dixie Kong and I wasn't sure of Donkey Kong was a popular enough franchise to warrant four reps. Then again Fire Emblem has four, albeit one is a clone. I wouldn't say it's impossible by any means, I'd just prefer Dixie Kong over him.
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TippyToe-Zombie In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-13 21:58:42 +0000 UTC]
I was just making some suggestions and as you'll see from the end of my comment I said it was a solid roster. Also DK is right after Mario, Pokemon and Zelda in terms of sales, so there is that. I could tell this was just a starting roster and I'm sure it's going to get better as you progress with it. As for my opinion on Shovel Knight I'd certainly be happy to see Shovel Knight in the game I was just stating my opinion on his likelihood and really that doesn't matter when you look at some of the characters who have been in Smash Bros. The reason I put Isaac is because he's my big choice for the next Smash now that my old number one (Megaman) is in. I'd also love to see something from Dragon Quest, but I don't know how likely that is. Keep up the good work.
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aurafox4 In reply to TippyToe-Zombie [2014-09-13 23:45:53 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the support! And I wasn't trying to bash your ideas, just simply explaining why some of them aren't on my personal list. I could easily add Isaac in there though
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TippyToe-Zombie In reply to aurafox4 [2014-09-14 20:53:55 +0000 UTC]
I understand. Isaac is the one I personally want most.
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