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Aya-Wavedancer — 1931 Avions Voisin C20 'Mylord' Demi-Berline

Published: 2014-06-17 19:35:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 1385; Favourites: 38; Downloads: 23
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Description The full title of this car includes the word 'Simoun' at the end. The Voisin Brothers were French Aviation pioneers. Charles was killed in an accident in 1912, and Gabriel continued the business. Voisins are extremely unique, with Gabriel using his aeronautical engineering  background extensively in the design and engineering of his vehicles. The pedals inside the vehicle are very reminiscent of Airplane rudder pedals, and many of the details are very unusual and unique as to how they do certain things in the car. Very much like SAAB was and for the same reason. The vehicle is incredibly light for its size, about 2500 pounds- and uses a sleeve-valve engine which makes it very quiet, but arguably too complicated in some aspects. Supposedly you can barely hear it run, but it tends to smoke from the oil which needs to lubricate the sleeve valves. And no, the car is not rodded, chopped, dropped, or slammed. This is actually how the car was built. And no, it was not owned by Grandpa or Herman Munster, though it looks like it should have been. My "TAKE THAT!" to the plethora of Kias and Hyundais of late! NO BORING CARS HERE!
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Comments: 25

Sevenlima [2015-03-16 23:37:21 +0000 UTC]

What if they could only use the voisin name ?

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-03-17 06:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Do you mean revive the brand name today? From what I read, SNECMA/Safran would own the rights to it.

There was an attempt to do it after the war that was kind of successful but the vehicle was never marketed as a Voisin.

Like Bugatti, if someone would create something along those lines, it might attract interest- but, you'd need a lot of money and enough buyers of what would be a very expensive vehicle. I doubt the sleeve-valve engine would be used, unless someone wold come up with better solutions to its peculiar issues.

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-03-17 19:13:01 +0000 UTC]

This brand have some symbol ?

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-03-18 02:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I need to find a good pic of the radiator detail I took and post it. A most bizarre art-deco piece to say the least!

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-03-18 09:55:07 +0000 UTC]

But if someone make a new model but modern ?

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-03-18 14:44:42 +0000 UTC]

The question would be if they could create a new product that would sell enough cars to keep the enterprise operating. Bugatti went through one attempt with the EB 110 before the current iteration. Someone tried to start a new Pierce-Arrow a few years back and got nowhere. Someone did revive Stutz in the late 60's and 70's and had some success then pulled the plug.

To make a modern Voisin, it would take a lot of money, a very well-thought 0ut understanding and vision, and one hell of an engineered vehicle.

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-03-19 00:22:36 +0000 UTC]

I think it must be a big brand for something like that !!

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-03-22 08:52:56 +0000 UTC]

It would take major corporate backing or major investment money to do it right.

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-04-09 14:26:03 +0000 UTC]

Like Bmw ?

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-04-09 17:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes, something at least that big.

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-04-30 15:36:34 +0000 UTC]

But Bmw would bring such company back ?

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-04-30 16:56:35 +0000 UTC]

Doubtful. In many ways the new BMW i series of vehicles are doing what Voisin did- use of lightweight materials and engineering, advanced methods to engine the vehicle, etc. Also, it was a niche vehicle back when it existed- hard enough to find Bugatti buyers let alone the right person to buy a modern interpretation of the Voisin.

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Sevenlima In reply to Aya-Wavedancer [2015-04-30 17:54:34 +0000 UTC]

But perhaps the company want more brands.

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Sevenlima [2015-05-28 06:57:48 +0000 UTC]

Maybe. How much profit will they get out of a limited production, expensive auto? Remember, many companies, especially in the US are tightening down the brands in their product line. Maybach is making some kind of comeback- again with M-B. Even they didn't sell enough of what are really nice cars to NBA stars and Arab Oil Sheiks. They seem to be trying again.

Evidently, Volkswagen and Bugatti seem to be working. My guess is that they made money on the Veyron, and my other guess is that they figured they sold as many as they could to anyone who could afford it. Now they're working on the Chiron, we'll have to see what's up with it now.

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GobboSparviero [2014-06-19 01:24:26 +0000 UTC]

Nice to see really unique and interesting car.

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to GobboSparviero [2014-06-19 04:17:43 +0000 UTC]

Love the Felix Avatar, and thanks.

It's evidently unique, and one of the few existing Voisin V-12 cars remaining from only a few that were built. If I read some of the articules about this vehicle correctly, it recently changed hands for 2 Million USD and change.

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SwiftysGarage [2014-06-18 03:47:37 +0000 UTC]

I think I know why these didn't sell well.  The name doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as "Kia Soul".  But paint it beige and slap a Toyota emblem on it and problem solved - it'll sell like hotcakes! 

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to SwiftysGarage [2014-06-18 05:45:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, add to that the fact it was the height of the Depression and the car was as expensive as heck- killed off a LOT of high end marques in that period of time. And yes, Beige seems to be part of a Toyota-centered plot to sell the public more boring stuff ......

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Skoshi8 [2014-06-17 21:12:25 +0000 UTC]

Those braces must've taken care of any body rattles.

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Skoshi8 [2014-06-18 02:43:40 +0000 UTC]

In part, I'd think. Also, Voisin was enamoured with the Art Deco movement and moved more towards those aesthetics at that time rather than pure aerodynamic form. I'd think one of the reasons the sleeve valve engines were chosen were for the quietness, so the last thing you'd want was a creaky car.

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Midway2009 [2014-06-17 20:42:12 +0000 UTC]

That's beautiful.

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StefanoFiocchi [2014-06-17 20:19:06 +0000 UTC]

That is a stunning and magnificent vehicle

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to StefanoFiocchi [2014-06-17 20:35:17 +0000 UTC]

I did more research on it. It's got one of the few Voisin V-12 engines in it, and it's also unique. It really makes a great impression seen live.

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Loveuniversal [2014-06-17 19:38:00 +0000 UTC]

That's my dream car

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Aya-Wavedancer In reply to Loveuniversal [2014-06-17 19:41:32 +0000 UTC]

The Mullin Museum evidently has several in their collection- kind of hard to find one in the US.

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