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Ironose [2016-01-17 17:47:33 +0000 UTC]
Very nicely done.
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SilenceoftheSolitude [2015-11-24 21:31:18 +0000 UTC]
Well, I didn't like 'The Hobbit' movies at all, but that has nothing to do with your drawing.
I really like this, but I think the best part has to be the eyes, they're really great. Great job!
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SilenceoftheSolitude In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-11-27 19:11:10 +0000 UTC]
Nope, absolutely nothing. It's perfect the way it is. Also, art doesn't always need to be explained.
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SilenceoftheSolitude In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-11-29 11:15:09 +0000 UTC]
Well, I suppose Jackson did drag a lot more attention to Tolkien's works, especially on the visual medias. After all, except for the animated movies (which most people don't even know about), Jackson was the first to bring Tolkien's characters to life. My true complain with Jackson is that he didn't respect the message of the story (especially concerning The Hobbit), not that he adapted some parts, but that's another matter entirely.
I don't mind at all, but unfortunately I'm not in any Tolkien group. Actually, I pretty much stay away from groups on facebook because I know that most people only want to create problems for everyone else. The best suggestion I can give you is to check out Alan Lee's drawings. He's a fantastic artist and maybe you can find something that will inspire you among his works.
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SilenceoftheSolitude In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-12-01 17:27:13 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, those animated series are unfamiliar to most people. To tell you the truth I haven't seen them myself, since I was unable to find them anywhere. I hope you'll be luckier in your search, and if you do find them, make sure to let me know what you thought about them.
I think this interview to Christopher Tolkien (I'm sure he needs no introduction) explains what I mean way better than I ever could: www.worldcrunch.com/culture-so…
Personally I'm not as radical in views as he is (after all, I'm not Tolkien's own flesh and blood), but I do agree on a lot he said and I have to respect his views over those of anyone else because he is the legitimate heir of his father and we owe him most of Tolkien's works.
Yeah, FB can really be a nasty place, but I suppose that's because it's the place where the worst of society is allowed to come out.
You're most welcome!
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Barbarian-J In reply to SilenceoftheSolitude [2015-12-02 20:34:47 +0000 UTC]
It must be my lucky day! I just picked up the DVD on eBay for 6,5 EUR, shipping included! How cool is that?!
Of course I'll watch it and tell you all about it.
I read the article you linked too, in the meantime. It's going a direction I didn't quite expect, to be honest. There's a very bitter story between the owners to the film rights and the Tolkien heirs, that's for sure, but it seems to evolve around money more than anything else. Now, if I were among Tolkien's heirs, I'd resent too that people are making millions off my father's work and the family doesn't see much of that money. That by itself is rather awful and undeserved. It's even more awful that the reason this all happens is the fact that Tolkien didn't think very highly of his own work and sold off the rights to it for a price that was far too low!
What the article doesn't do, however, is tell anything about the message of the books. And when it comes to that, it seems that Tolkien didn't care about bringing a morale or specific message. Of course, his own life provided inspiration for what he wrote (his experiences in WWII provided material enough for something like Orcs, for instance) and next to that he seems to have had a deep-rooted hatred for industrialization that found its way into the story too (e.g. Treebeard versus Saruman), but he didn't seem to have had any particular message for his readers. The stories were an escape from the real world. There's no parallels. There's no morale to be told. There's just fantasy and an epic struggle between Good and Evil as a backdrop for it.
And that was my point in the previous message I wrote. Peter Jackson did his own interpretation and I for one, like it a lot. It had me discover Tolkien's work. To say that he ignored the message in Tolkien's work is unfair. There is none to start with, apparently. And no, he didn't capture the full breadth and depth of Tolkien's work. I agree with Christopher there. It is simply impossible to do. You can't put the entire world and its history that Tolkien created in just 6 3-hours movies. Still not enough time to explore every tiny little detail. People will always compare the movie to the book and then say "I think the book was better". And that's because you can't beat the imagination in your own head. And a good thing that is, too!
I'm getting carried a bit away, ain't I? ... Sorry 'bout that. Let's just drop the topic ...
Anyway, found this one; thought you might read it (and listen to it) too: www.huffingtonpost.com/noble-s…
What I do wholeheartedly agree with you on, is your opinion about Facebook ...
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SilenceoftheSolitude In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-12-07 19:25:57 +0000 UTC]
I'm really glad to hear that, and I hope you'll enjoy them!
Actually, disregarding the whole financial side of things, I wanted to bring focus to the last paragraphs of the article. Of course to go into detail with regards to the whole symbolic aspect of the books that wasn't the right article, but there have been more than a few studies - published books even - done on that subject. So I can't agree with you on that score, but really that's not even important since, like I already told you somewhere else, the fact that you chose a subject from The Hobbit movies was only a catalyst for me to see your work. Art, as it is, isn't about the subject, but about the emotion behind it.
I read the article, but I couldn't listen (it said the video is private). Anyway, from what I read, and what you actually state, you're only confirming my theories. Tolkien's writings are depicting of his view of the world: the orcs represent the barbaric events of WWII, the wizards are the scientists who went too far in their search for knowledge and uncovered the potential to create a weapon of mass destruction such as the atomic bomb... Every love story he ever wrote was inspired by his own love for his wife. That doesn't make his writings deprived of meaning, in fact it gives them more poignancy.
Ah! Well, I'm glad we can at least agree on that!
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African-Amber [2015-11-24 08:26:33 +0000 UTC]
I love the expressiveness of your faces. Even when you draw animals, it's looks like they're feeling something. This is really cute.
I could learn a thing or two from the way you did his hair, I'm struggling with drawing messy hair. You got the perfect balance of chaos and order in his hair.
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Barbarian-J In reply to African-Amber [2015-11-25 20:48:55 +0000 UTC]
Aha! The hair! Yes, some effort went into that tousle of a beard. The little secret is that you -especially with charcoal, but it works with pencil too- can erase tiny hairs with your gum and as such build up the total, using both the "positive" (drawing hairs on) and "negative" (drawing hairs by erasing) techniques.
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African-Amber In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-11-28 14:47:15 +0000 UTC]
Hmm. I'm working with chalky pastel right now on Gandalf's Beard. It's kinda similar except putting the positives in with pastels and the negatives in with pencils. Lots of hair though!
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African-Amber In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-12-02 18:39:11 +0000 UTC]
I put up a work in progress for ya. I'm not quite done though.
Good Luck with your Gandalf! It's going to be awesome to see it.
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African-Amber In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-12-17 12:38:15 +0000 UTC]
Many hours, I'm working on getting faster.
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Barbarian-J In reply to African-Amber [2015-12-19 15:30:13 +0000 UTC]
You sound like Rocky Balboa now.
Eye of the Tiger, girl!
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African-Amber In reply to Barbarian-J [2015-12-24 14:48:29 +0000 UTC]
Ja, except Rocky never sprained his ankle on a stupid lose paving stone.
Badass I ain't.
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Lineke-Lijn [2015-11-22 09:21:06 +0000 UTC]
Echt top!
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