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BlacktailFA — Stryker Debacle, Ch. : MORE Fun Facts! (10/10)

Published: 2013-04-03 07:30:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 561; Favourites: 4; Downloads: 5
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Description The final part of this chapter deals not only with the Stryker's problems, but also some astonishing doctrinal mistakes concerning the composition of the SBCTs.

Lots of fast ones that the Stryker Lobby hoped you'd never catch them red-handed in!

Thanks once more to VickersIndependent for providing information, and meaninter03 for editing the script!

Here's my availavle sources on Part 10...

Confirmation that the Stryker MGS does, in fact, use reduced-power 105mm ammunition (i.e., it's a "low-pressure" gun);
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The SBCT Structure --- note how few ATGM and MGS vehicles are in one;
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The Teledyne Expeditionary Tank (does that gun platform on top look familiar to you?);
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The failure and rejection of the "Low Profile Turret" for the Expeditionary Tank --- now embraced by the US Army as the most wonderful thing ever;
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More failings of the Stryker MGS' "Low Profile Turret" that GDLS and the US Army assumed you'd never find out about;
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The 2009 DOT&E Report on the Stryker MGS that GDLS and the US Army hoped you'd never see;
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And look, there are STILL huge problems left in the MGS! Who would have ever thought it?;
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Strength of a Regiment --- 3000 personnel;
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Strength of a Brigade --- 5000 personnel;
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The Soviet Motorized Infantry Regiment --- just like the SBCT! Except that SBCTs don't have the Soviet Motorized Infantry Regiment's Main Battle Tanks, IFVs, Self-Propelled Artillery, Gun-Mortars, Self-Propelled AA Guns, Self-Propelled SAMs... should I continue?;
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Comments: 14

sharingan75 [2014-10-15 07:31:26 +0000 UTC]

"Taken out of Iraq for good" yeah right. They'll be back soon enough, but will probably be painted green again before it happens.

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Passin [2013-04-03 23:47:52 +0000 UTC]

If you discover that an idea doesn't work...use it anyway. Aren't the US Army lucky that there isn't a single country capable of actually challenging America's military that is actually hostile.

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BlacktailFA In reply to Passin [2013-04-04 11:01:38 +0000 UTC]

I'll say. The "Axis of Evil" nations are all bent on regime survival, China is the No.1 US trading partner and has regional concerns of it's own, the Warsaw Pact is long-gone and all the former member-states are friendly or neutral, the Balkans have quieted-down over the past decade, and there's not much left to do in the Developing World.

Hopefully, by the time the geostrategic situation changes, the Army will have a vehicle at least as good as the M113 Gavin the Stryker "replaced"...

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thormemeson [2013-04-03 21:01:16 +0000 UTC]

answer to the quiz is an SBCT is full of fail

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BlacktailFA In reply to thormemeson [2013-04-04 11:03:22 +0000 UTC]

And then some. I wish I could have known about *this* when I wrote-up the above presentation; [link]

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thormemeson In reply to BlacktailFA [2013-04-04 16:28:02 +0000 UTC]

I have a question what did the MBT70 go up against as its competition?

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BlacktailFA In reply to thormemeson [2013-04-04 23:37:52 +0000 UTC]

Nothing.

The US Army designed it, and various companies assembled it for them.

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thormemeson In reply to BlacktailFA [2013-04-04 23:39:30 +0000 UTC]

So what was the T95 made for then?

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BlacktailFA In reply to thormemeson [2013-04-05 10:33:45 +0000 UTC]

The T95 was something of a forerunner of the MBT-70. It was developed largely the same way the MBT-70 was, and was also something of a technology showcase.

It also never went into production, although under different circumstances; a sort of a "Super-Duper M48" had been developed, which was topped-off one of the turrets trialed on the T95 that had an L7 105mm/52 main gun (this weapon was built under license in the US as the M68). It was a much simpler and more conventional tank than the T95, and offered most of it's capability at a much lower cost. So, this other tank went into production instead, and entered service in 1961 --- as the M60 Patton.

The MBT-70 was the Army's next tank design focus, but as you've seen in the Failed Tanks episode on the MBT-70, it basically repeated the same mistakes as the T95 (except that the MBT-70 was much, much worse). They tried to simplify it as the XM803, but it still performed poorly for it's cost, relative to the M60 FOV.

That should clarify the relationship between these tanks.

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thormemeson In reply to BlacktailFA [2013-04-05 13:11:22 +0000 UTC]

So is making tech demonstrators useful? I mean the T95 helped result in the M60.

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zeraful [2013-04-03 09:38:09 +0000 UTC]

When life gives you lemon....make Strykers

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BlacktailFA In reply to zeraful [2013-04-04 11:03:44 +0000 UTC]

That's an insult to lemons!

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KazukiFerret [2013-04-03 07:43:27 +0000 UTC]

As always, you make me hate how my government spends the money it strong-arms me into giving it. lol, well done series though.

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BlacktailFA In reply to KazukiFerret [2013-04-04 11:05:04 +0000 UTC]

It's even worse now than I thought it would be when I made this presentation. Check out the recent story I linked to in my reply (below) to xxxdude.

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