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BlacktailFA — Warplane Disasters! Episode 10 Special (Part 2/2)

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Published: 2015-06-27 07:28:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 1985; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 10
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Description As in Part 1 of this presentation, this episode of Warplane Disasters goes off the beaten path, and looks at dire problems that plagued otherwise very successful aircraft.

The successes of these aircraft are widely-known, but not these issues, which is the whole point of this presentation; success has a nasty tendency to smokescreen serious problems. The warplanes featured here aren't necessarily the most extreme examples in that regard, but they do illustrate the point.

The aircraft featured in Part 2 are...
#6: The B-29 Superfortress
#7: The F-14A Tomcat
#8: The F-16A/B Fighting Falcon
#9: The F-100 Super Sabre
#10: The F-15 Eagle

As in Part 1, the script for this presentation was edited for spelling and grammar by meaninter03.

Finally, as promised, here is an exhaustive list of my sources for this presentation...

militaryhistory.about.com/od/m…

usfighter.tripod.com/f8.htm

www.airvectors.net/avcrus_2.ht…

www.skeletoncrew.ca/forum/inde…

books.google.com/books?id=YLPr…

characterqualitystories.com/cq…

www.airvectors.net/avtu22.html…

www.sci.fi/~fta/MiG-29-2b.htm

www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/flygirls…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B…

www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/flygirls…

www.airforcemag.com/magazinear…

www.ejection-history.org.uk/Ai…

www.apnewsarchive.com/1987/F-1…

www.flightglobal.com/news/arti…

books.google.com/books?id=u_Dr…

www.ejection-history.org.uk/Ai…

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01…

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=75…

www.thecid.com/f20a/f20hist8.h…

www.ejection-history.org.uk/Ai…

www.avsim.com/pages/1205/F8/F8…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_F…

www.businessinsider.com/the-f-…

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknew…

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic…

www.pogo.org/blog/2013/02/why-…
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Comments: 10

S7alker117 [2015-06-27 15:26:02 +0000 UTC]

I'll admit, the thing with the F-16s wings caught me by surprise. I mean, I knew the early A models were defective, but I always read about their tailfins being too small, and never really read anything about the wings being too frail. In retrospective, they ought to be made much stronger than needed from the very start. On the same note, I also read that one of the reasons for the Viggen's success was that it was made much sturdier from the begining than required, making it able to withstand more Gs than expected and to carry quite big weapon loads for its size. 

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BlacktailFA In reply to S7alker117 [2015-06-28 07:44:28 +0000 UTC]

I haven't read enough about the J-37 Viggen to elaborate on it's structural integrity, but it probably stems from the Swedish Air Force's requirement that it operate from short and rough runways.

Also, it's notable that although the Mig-29 Fulcrum is officially rated to pull 9 Gs, they often execute 11 G maneuvers with no ill effect. In fact, during static ground testing of the Mig-29's structure in simulated high-G forces, it was able to withstand 14 Gs before any structural components were permanently bent --- and none of them broke!

Of course, the same couldn't be said of the Mig-29's avionics, engines, weapons, plumbing, fuel cells, and pilot if any of them were subjected to 14 Gs.  LoL

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S7alker117 In reply to BlacktailFA [2015-10-13 14:37:33 +0000 UTC]

Probably. Swedish designs are known for being solid, at least. 

Indeed. The Fulcrum seems to be a truly excellent dogfighter, but I reckon that most units in service weren't kept up-to-date with modern developments in military tech. Although that could be said from the MiG-21s also and they still managed some impressive victories here and there. 

Also, and changing pace a little, when can we expect another episode from you? I know these take their time to research, but I always enjoy your stuff.

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BlacktailFA In reply to S7alker117 [2015-10-14 23:14:28 +0000 UTC]

As it happens, the next episode is already going up! Part 1 is now online, and Part 2 will follow later.

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S7alker117 In reply to BlacktailFA [2015-10-15 22:02:18 +0000 UTC]

Neat!

I've checked and that was quite an insane story. Waiting for the second part.

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Nohomers48 [2015-06-27 08:44:14 +0000 UTC]

To add on to number 7 with the F-14, the Iranians in 2012 suffered from what was probably another example of the compressor failing and destroying the aircraft, though they attribute it to some sort of USAF drone weapon, as the jet was taking off in response to an unidentified aircraft flight in their airspace when the plane exploded.

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BlacktailFA In reply to Nohomers48 [2015-06-28 07:10:14 +0000 UTC]

Fat chance of that --- it was another TF30 explosion.  XP

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thormemeson In reply to Nohomers48 [2015-06-27 11:24:34 +0000 UTC]

hahaha UFOs did it! Oh I am shocked the USAF hasn't said the same thing over the F35!

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Nohomers48 In reply to thormemeson [2015-06-27 11:39:39 +0000 UTC]

Hell yeah, they could use them as a new nebulous foe that we will always be at constant war to justify keeping budgets massively over-inflated.

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thormemeson In reply to Nohomers48 [2015-06-27 12:38:48 +0000 UTC]

indeed

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