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remember everybody: don't be like these rabid SasuSaku fangirls here in the comment section, who do nothing but just which hunt everybody who doesn't agree with their "precious" (toxic and problematic) canon and spams their excuses and HC's for their crap ship.
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karin is queen. mother of salad and wife of sasuke. i love this couple. i love their moments and how they show their love to each other which we saw in the manga ♥ sk is love and life . its logical. unlike ss. its a death crack ship. even in fanfic it doesnt work
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For one, lovely work! I like the colors and her pose a lot! ^u^
But also, if you haven't already, you should probably just block 'alwayssakurauchiha'. All she does is put hateful comments on peoples art. I've had to block her myself because she wouldn't stop commenting on my art.
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To itasasu2002 :
I forgot to mention one thing: Bad vision is NOT hereditary necessarily.
For example, a kid whose parents don't need glasses might STILL need them. In the same time, a kid might not need to wear glasses, even if BOTH of their parents need them.
^ Thus, needing glasses proves NOTHING.
Furthermore, in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, Sarada was NOT initially wearing glasses. She was only shown as wearing them AFTER she had been seriously sick and had had a really high fever. Thus, it is highly possible that that illness was what deteriorated her eyesight.
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To itasasu2002 :
And can't you see that you're completely contradicting yourself?
At first, you were talking about "the possibility of Karin being the real mother", EVEN THOUGH we literally had an entire Gaiden that was mainly regarding Sarada's parentage and in which everthing regarding this matter was explained in the end, as Sasuke, Sakura AND Karin THEMSELVES confirmed that Sakura is, indeed, Sarada's real mother.
Now, you're saying that "Sasuke is still with Sakura JUST because of their child".
^ Can't you see how this sounds? 😂 😂 😂
By the way, it looks like you've also completely misunderstood Sasuke's words (as you're clearly referring to them here).
What Sasuke really said was that Sarada is the living proof of him and Sakura being connected, thus basically stating that she is the living proof of him and Sakura loving each other. After their marriage, he and Sakura decided to transform their love into a precious child. If he and Sakura hadn't loved each other, Sarada wouldn't have existed. She wouldn't have been born. But she EXISTS and her simple existence shows the deep connection between her parents. c;
^ This is what Sasuke truly meant while saying: "Because you EXIST, Sarada.". (This is what he truly said in both the raws and the Media Viz translation, which is the only official translation. Thus, in the online translations, his words were WRONGLY translated as "Because we have you, Sarada.")
^ Sarada immediately understood Sasuke's words perfectly and, thus, started crying happily right after hearing them, as this was the ultimate confirmation she needed in order to know for sure that Sakura really was her real mother! c;
Furthermore, the extremely powerful connection between Sasuke and Sakura was further emphasized by one of Kishi's interviews that was regarding Naruto Gaiden, in which he confirmed that, no matter how far away they are from each other, Sakura and Sasuke share an extremely deep connection.
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How do you know so much? o.O Haven't seen all this in the gaiden. I still find some things unexplained, I wish there was more of Naruto's first generation. Waiting for the explanation to be in Boruto's.
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To itasasu2002 :
Sadly for you, there's NO other option than to believe and acknowledge Karin's words.
There is NOTHING that actually might pointed out that there was, at least, something hidden behind what she said.
Karin reacted right after hearing Suigetsu's words and became angry right away, as she realized what an enormous misunderstanding had occurred.
If she had actually hidden something, her reaction to Suigestu's words would have been COMPLETELY different. She would have remained speechless, extremely surprised, worried, as something that she "had been hiding for so long" was finally revealed.
^ Instead of this, she simply became angry right away, like ANYONE who realized that there was really big misunderstanding would have.
She also explained everything and her explanation fits with everything perfectly.
Sakura joined Sasuke in his travels and, thus, the two of them began travelling together. Sarada was conceived when they were already travelling together. Sakura refused to leave Sasuke's side even when she was pregnant. Thus, Sarada had had to be born outside Konoha, this being the reason why there were no records of her birth in Konoha. The hideout Karin was in was probably the nearest place where Sakura could give birth at, so Sasuke and Sakura stopped there. Karin helped Sakura give birth to Sarada, thus being the midwife. After that, she most likely let Sasuke and Sakura remain for a few days at that hideout in order to let Sakura recover from the birth. In the meantime, Karin and Sakura had become friends, as Karin confirmed in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10. Also, this was also when Karin realized just how much Sasuke treasured both Sakura and his newborn daughter, decided to move on and felt happy for them, especially for Sasuke. This is exactly why she stated in Chapter 10 that she only wanted Sasuke to be happy. She knew that the only one who could bring genuine happiness to Sasuke was Sakura. After the birth, Sasuke and Sakura most likely decided to offer Karin a part of the umbilical cord between Sakura and Sarada in order to show their gratitude. They were really grateful for Karin's efforts and help. The part of the umbilical cord that was given to Karin signifies the connection she now has to the Uchiha Family, as she was the one who assisted Sakura during Sarada's birth. Just like she said, bonds and connections come in all sorts of shapes and forms. Thus, her connection to the Uchiha Family is represented by the fact that she was the midwife at Sarada's birth.
^ And Karin basically said and implied ALL of this right away, without ANY sign of hesitation. c;
And you're also acting like Sakura and Sasuke didn't day anything to Sarada and like only Karin's words mattered, DESPITE the fact that BOTH Sasuke and Sakura also confirmed in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10 that Sakura is, indeed, Sarada's real mother.
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To itasasu2002 :
And there is NO evidence that they didn't kiss.
Sakura's reaction to Sarada's question was perfectly normal. She was simply embarrassed and didn't expect her daughter to ask her a question like this one.
And she didn't know what to tell Sarada, as how could she have talked to her little daughter about kissing and such things?
She HAD to think of something else that could be easily described to a little girl.
^ Thus, she of course immediately thought of the Forehead Poke, also known as "The Ultimate Expression of LOVE", which can be used BOTH romantically (for example, when Sasuke poked Sakura's forehead) and platonically (for example, when Sasuke/Sakura poked Sarada's forehead and when Itachi poked Sasuke's forehead).
Shall I remind you that this meaningful gesture was described by Sakura herself in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8 as even better than a kiss? :3
The Forehead Poke is the deep gesture that canonized SasuSaku ON PANEL ( by the way, SasuSaku was also the ONLY couple canonized on panel c; ), as Sasuke used it in order to finally make Sakura realize that he had reciprocated her feelings (he had started reciprocating them way before that moment, even from Part I, but this was the actual time he showed this to her). Sakura understood what Sasuke really meant and just how important that gesture was to him and, thus, started blushing and became speechless. c:
Now, they're also sharing this extremely meaningful gesture with their daughter. Therefore, they're the only ones who have their own way of expressing the deep love they have for each other. SasuSakuSara is the only family with their own special gesture. <3
And of course Sasuke couldn't kiss Sakura at the end of Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10, because their daughter was watching them. There is a panel which clearly shows that Sarada was curiously paying attention to her parents during those moments.
Everything between Sasuke and Sakura (even their powerful eye contact throughout the entire manga) is extremely intimate. It has to happen only between the two of them.
Sasuke knew what Sakura wanted, but couldn't give it to her, as they weren't alone. This was also a form of teasing her, as he seems to like teasing his wife.
BUT right after this moment, Sasuke was shown as smirking, while holding the bento that Sakura had made especially for him really tight. This clearly shows that he was also playing with his wife and that he knew he would give her what she wanted when he would be back for good in Konoha and when the two of them would finally be alone and intimate.
And you were sayin' that Sakura "would never get what she wanted"? LOL, too bad for you that:
1. Sasuke's smirk said COMPLETELY otherwise;
2. She already married the one she loved and had a kid with him. What else do you think that she'd really want? :"3
Also, you were referring to Sakura as "desperate"? Really? So, now this is how you call a WIFE who wants some affection from her husband ( even though he couldn't offer her what she wanted at that particular moment, as they weren't alone and their daughter was curiously watching them; still, no worries, he WILL offer her what she wanted when they will finally be alone, just the two of them together :3 ) and who blushes during the intimate moments between her and her husband? Mhmmm.
And it's not like Sakura and Sasuke were unable to see each other for several years. Yet Sakura was perfectly fine with Sasuke's mission and wasn't complaining AT ALL about it. She understood its importance and the reason why Sasuke had started it in the first place. She also always encouraged Sarada when she asked about her father and told her that she would someday also understand the reason why Sasuke had chosen to go on that mision, this being because of the fact that he treasured both of them extremely deeply and wanted to make sure that they were completely safe.
^ Thus, not only Sasuke sacrificed his happiness in order to protect his dear ones. Sakura also sacrificed her happiness of living along with her husband and of having a complete family life for so long and accepted to raise their daughter on her own for such a long time, as well. Still, Sarada was raised really well. She is polite, friendly and was always given all the love in the world by Sakura.
^ Do you REALLY see this as "desperate"? If you genuinely do, then I'm really sorry for you and for your way of "thinking". Still, you probably do, indeed, JUST because we're talking about Sakura here and you simply hate her, WITHOUT having an actual reason. Pfft.
And, you know, there is NO evidence that Sasuke didn't contact Sakura when he was in his mission. Just like he contacted Naruto, he could have been contacting Sakura in the same way, as well.
Like it was shown in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 5, when Sasuke returned for a really short period of time in Konoha in order to report what he had found regarding Kaguya, Sakura was ALSO there along with her husband at the Five Kage Meeting. Thus, she knew right away that Sasuke would return in Konoha for a limited time. How did she know that? Well, of course because of the fact that she and Sasuke had, indeed, kept in touch.
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To itasasu2002 :
The funny thing is that Sarada is
the only kid from the new generation whose parentage was confirmed in the actual manga. In black and white, right before your eyes. I mean, of course we also know who the other kids' parents are, BUT ONLY in Sarada's case it was officially confirmed in canon, in the manga itself. Pretty ironic, huh? c;
And Sakura and Sasuke are also the ONLY ones from the canon couples who refer to each other as "husband" and "wife" when they're talking to other persons about each other. Also, Sakura refers to Sasuke as "anata" (meaning "darling"/"dear" jn Japanese) when she's talking directly to him.
And I bet you're also enjoying the fact that Sakura is now proudly wearing the Uchiha Crest on her back in both Naruto Gaiden and "Boruto: Naruto the Movie". :3 She is actually the ONLY wife who is now officially shown as wearing her husband's symbol.
And I also bet you're enjoying even more the fact that Sakura was referred to as "Sakura UCHIHA" in her descriptions for both Naruto Gaiden and "Boruto: Naruto the Movie".
^ Hope you enjoyed ALL of this.
I mean, honestly, isn't it ironic that ONLY Sarada's parentage was confirmed in canon AND that ONLY Sakura and Sasuke were referring to each other as "husband" and "wife" AND that ONLY Sakura is wearing her husband's symbol on her back and, despite ALL of this, you're still "questioning" them?! LOL. I mean, just HOW in denial can you be? I get that you're an extreme SasuSaku hater, but this DOESN'T mean that you should be delusional and completely ignore the reality forever.
"No wedding pictures or proof of marriage"
^ As I've already showed you, SasuSaku actually has the MOST proofs of marriage among the canon couples in the official manga. c;
And, actually, none of the other couples (besides NH, but this happened in "The Last: Naruto the Movie", which can hardly be considered "canon", as it was NOT Kishi's idea, as he didn't contribute with almost anything at it and as most of the movie itself and EVERY single one of the "romantic" momemts was solely handled by SP) has actually been shown as having a marriage photo.
NO other couple besides SasuSaku has been shown as referring to each other as "husband"/"wife".
NO other wife besides Sakura has been shown as referring to her husband as "anata" (which means "darling"/"dear" in Japanese) in the actual manga. Hinata called Naruto "anata" once in "Boruto: Naruto the Movie", BUT she never called him like that in the actual manga, which is the most important and most valuable material. Sakura, on the other hand, DID call Sasuke like that in the manga.
NO other wife besides Sakura has been shown as wearing her husband's symbol on her back.
^ Going by your "logic" (more like LOLgic), NONE of the canon couples could actually be considered canon. Anyway, as you can see, EVEN like this, SasuSaku would STILL be the one having the most marriage proofs. c:
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To itasasu2002 :
Just wanted to show you in a longer post in how many ways Sarada resembles her mother:
- Most of Sarada's facial features were inherited from Sakura, such as her wide, cat-like eye shape, her eyelashes, her big forehead, her face shape and her wide, beautiful smile. She basically is just like a black-haired and black-eyed Sakura;
- Most of her expressions were also inherited from Sakura, especially the surprised and funny ones;
- She also inherited her verbal tic: "Shannarõ";
- Also, even though, at the first sight, Sarada seems to resemble Sasuke more when it comes to her personality, as she seems to be rather cold and distant, she actually inherited more personality traits from Sakura, as she is friendly, sociable, kind, smiles often and when she gets angry, things aren't going to turn out very good in the end;
- Sarada also inherited Sakura’s extremely good chakra control, thus having the very same amazing strength and being able to punch as hard as her mother. This fact was confirmed in both Naruto Gaiden chapter 9 and chapter 10. Sarada herself was surprised after realizing that she had inherited her mother’s power. This was the first confirmation from the ones she received in chapter 10, which told her that Sakura was her real mother.
Therefore, I suggest you reread Naruto Gaiden right away, as everything is confirmed there, in black and white. And there's no place for such false "statements", as this is a fact.
By the way, Kishi confirmed in an interview that he had initially wanted to make Sarada just like a girl version of Sasuke, but then had thought that she would have been too scary this way, so had decided to add some elements from Sakura to her, too (here, he was probably referring to her facial features, her expressions and her kindness).
He also confirmed that he added the galsses to Sarada as he thought they would make her look cute and intellectual (which is completely true).
In another interview, he said that Sarada’s cold stare would have looked to much like Sasuke’s on some occasions, so the glasses were also meant to hide this fact.
Also, in another interview regarding Naruto Gaiden, Kishi stated that, no matter how far away they are from each other, Sasuke and Sakura share a deep connection. A connection that is shown by the simple existence of Sarada, who symbolises the love between her parents.
Still, no matter how hard you try to ignore the reality, what is stated in canon remains canon and facts remain facts.
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To itasasu2002 :
Regarding the reason why Karin kept a part of the umbilical cord between Sakura and Sarada:
Karin probably kept a part of Sarada's umbilical cord as Sasuke and Sakura were travelling when Sarada was born at her hideout. Therefore, they probably didn’t even pay much attention to the umbilical cord and let Karin have it, as a gift for letting them stay at the hideout, for helping Sakura give birth and probably for letting them rest there for a few days after Sarada’s birth. Thus, they offered it to her in order to show their gratitude. If they weren’t the ones who had offered Karin the cord, then, still, they probably didn’t pay much attention to it (as it would have been kind of difficult to travel with a cord at them and keep it in a good condition in the same time) and Karin herself decided to keep it, as a way to remember the day she helped during Sarada’s birth. Also,as I've said, that wasn’t even the full cord. An umbilical cord is much longer than that. It was just a piece of it.
Also, Karin’s words (”Bonds… Connections… They come in all kinds of forms…”) were drawn along with the umbilical cord as this suggests that she is now somehow “connected” to the Uchiha Family and that she formed a new bond with them, because of the fact that she was present at Sarada’s birth scene and and because of the fact that they were both grateful as she helped Sakura while giving birth, therefore helping the Uchiha Family. Karin wad the one who assisted Sakura during Sarada's birth, thus being the midwife. Both Sakura and Sasuke must have highly appreciated her for the help. Also, she formed a new bond of friendship with Sakura, as Karin herself stated in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10.
Furthermore, just like it happened with Sarada’s glasses, without this umbilical cord, there would have been no plot for Naruto Gaiden. There had to be something which would have made Sarada think that Sakura is "not" her real mother, so that she will understand that relationships are based on love and memories, not on blood connections. The DNA does not matter and Sarada finally understood this.
So, how could Kishi have made Sarada think that Karin "is" her real mother? If Sakura and Sasuke had immediately answered her questions, she would have found out the truth right away and would have NEVER understood that relationships aren’t based on blood.
Therefore, the only way she could have thought that Sakura was "not" her real mother was by making Sarada believe that an "actual" DNA test proved this AND both of her parents had to not be around her while she saw the DNA results, in order not to tell her right away that the test was wrong, so she would have had the time to learn that lesson.
Sarada needed this lesson in order to have a new dream: the dream of becoming Hokage. She now knows that a Hokage has the entire village as their family, because connections are based on love and memories, so this is why she now desires to become one.
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To itasasu2002 :
And Sasuke HAD to go on that extremely long, difficult mission. He was the ONLY one who could have done it, as only he had the Rinnegan.
He began it ONLY in order to protect his family, his village and the entire world in general from a threat that might have been even bigger than Kaguya, as he himself stated in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 5.
Also, just like Sakura herself confirmed in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, it was the fact that Sasuke treasured both her and Sarada extremely much that had made Sasuke begin that extremely dangerous mission in the first place. He wanted to make sure that his loved ones were completely safe.
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And, by the way, Sarada was only 11 during the events of Gaiden, NOT 12.
And Sasuke DID spend some time with Sakura and baby Sarada in Konoha before leaving for that mission.
This was CONFIRMED by the first one of Sarada's flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, in which BOTH Sasuke and Sakura were helping Sarada learn how to walk.
And YES, that was an actual flashback, NOT just Sarada's imagination. This fact can be clearly seen from the way that panel was drawn. It was really blurred and unclear. The colours were light and uneven. It looked like it was becoming clearer and clearer as the seconds passed.
^ The fact that Sarada had her Sharingan activated during those moments helped her remember a really old and important memory, which she had initially forgotten.
And we can clearly see how Sarada's imagination actually looks like when she imagined how her and Sasuke's meeting would be like. It was completely clear and the colours were dark and even.
Also, why would a series of flashbacks starts with a simple imagination anyway?
Therefore, Sasuke DID spend around two years in Konoha with Sakura and Sarada before leaving and, thus, was able to watch Sarada growing up for some time, which is REALLY important.
And NO, Sasuke is NOT away anymore. You most likely didn't watch "Boruto: Naruto the Movie" or you actually did and are simply ignoring the parts you didn't like (JUST like you're doing with Naruto Gaiden and the numerous parts in which it was officially confirmed that Sakura IS Sarada's real mother).
^ Sasuke IS back for good at the end of the movie. The threat that was even bigger than Kaguya was completely defeated and, therefore, Sasuke finished his mission and was able to finally remain in Konoha WITH HIS FAMILY. :"3
Actually, the last scene of this movie in which Sasuke appeared was ALONG WITH SAKURA. They were staying together on a roof (just like they had stayed when they were kids) and were proudly watching Sarada and her teammates. 💖
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To itasasu2002 :
LOL.
Wow. Simply WOW.
It's "so obvious" that "Karin is Sarada's mother", even though we literally had an ENTIRE Gaiden that was mainly regarding Sarada's parentage and in which EVERYTHING regarding this matter was explained in the end, as Sakura was officially confirmed as her real mother IN CANON, right?
Honestly, what can I say besides:
Keep being in denial, as Sasuke, Sakura AND Karin THEMSELVES confirmed in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10 that Sakura is, indeed, Sarada's real mother.
Firstly, Sakura herself said right away that she is Sarada's real mother.
Secondly, Sasuke himself also basically stated that Sarada is the living proof of him and Sakura being connected, thus basically stating that she is the living proof of him and Sakura loving each other. After their marriage, he and Sakura decided to transform their love into a precious child. If he and Sakura hadn't loved each other, Sarada wouldn't have existed. She wouldn't have been born. But she EXISTS and her simple existence shows the deep connection between her parents. c;
^ This is what Sasuke truly meant while saying: "Because you EXIST, Sarada.". (This is what he truly said in both the raws and the Media Viz translation, which is the only official translation. Thus, in the online translations, his words were WRONGLY translated as "Because we have you, Sarada.")
^ Sarada immediately understood Sasuke's words perfectly and, thus, started crying happily right after hearing them, as this was thw ultimate confirmation she needed in order to know for sure that Sakura really was her real mother! c;
Also, Karin herself said that the umbilical cord was between Sakura and Sarada (this being the reason why the DNA test was 100% positive, as an umbilical cord contains only the DNA of the child), that she was the one who had only helped Sakura give birth to Sarada (thus, being the midwife) and that she had only wanted Sasuke to be happy (thus, basically admitting that Sakura was he only one who could bring happiness to Sasuke).
So, sadly for you, there's no space for delusions, as Sakura was officially confirmed as Sarada's real mother in the actual manga and, thus, this is a FACT. :"3
Also, can't you see just how hypocritical it is to say that Sarada "has some of Karin's mannerisms", while ALSO saying that Sarada acts like Sakura "only because" she was raised by her? :"D
And, "dearest", let me teach you a very important lesson that you obviously lack: Clothes are NOT hereditary.
And, you know, it's not like Sarada's outfit from Gaiden is exactly like Sakura's outfit from Gaiden, only that Sakura's pants are longer. And, also, it's not like Sarada's outfit from Gaiden resembles Sakura's second outfit from Part II A LOT, too. On the other hand, Sarada's arm protectors resemble Sasuke's from Part II greatly. Thus, even when it comes to her outfit, Sarada is just like a combination of SasuSaku. Bet you love this. :"3
And the fact that Sarada had a similar shirt to Karin's in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8 was only meant to mislead you and the other persons who had let themselves be fooled by this extremely obvious, massive trolling EVEN FURTHER. c;
Also, Sarada has NO "extra chakra boost". What she actually has is an extremely good chakra control that was inherited from SAKURA. Thus, she has the same amazing strength and can punch extremely hard, just like her mother.
Sarada was NOT trained by Sakura at all. Sakura probably wasn't even aware of the fact that her daughter had inherited her good chakra control. This can be easily seen from the fact that she remained extremely surprised after seeing that Sarada had managed to punch thw ground just as hard as her. And Sarada actually managed to do this as she also had her Sharingan activated, which helped her control her chakra even better.
And YES, good chakra control CAN be inherited, as Sakura had an extremely good chakra control from thw vwry beginning of the series. Kakashi-Sensei himself noticed right from the forat chapters the fact that Sakura's chakra control was much better than Sasuke's and Naruto's.
Let's get to the point:
Sarada and Karin looked NOTHING alike from the very beginning. The only thing they had in common was the fact that both of them had glasses. If you had taken Sarada's glasses off in your mind from the start, you would have been able to realize right away that she didn't resemble Karin in ANY way.
Also, sadly, some people (like YOU) kept pretending like they had completely forgotten that Karin's hair and eyes are RED in reality, NOT black like Sarada's as they actually seem to be in the manga.
On the other hand, Sarada looks like her mother so much.
^ Sarada inherited Sakura's wide, cat-like eye shape, eyelashes, face shape, big forehead, beautiful, wide smile and most of her facial expressions, especially the surprised and funny ones. Also, her hair is mainly like Sakura's (actually, Sarada's hair is initially straight like her mother's, but her hair ends are a little more spikier like her father's, so, even when it comes to her hair, Sarada is a perfect combination of her parents) AND her hairstyle is just like Sakura's, only that Sarada's is shorter.
Furthermore, as I've already said, besides most of her facial features and expressions, Sarada also inherited her mother's extremely good chakra control, thus having the same amazing strength and being able to punch extremely hard.
Seriously, who Sarada's mother was should have been obvious to ANYONE from her very first appearance, but of course you weren't and STILL aren't willing to accept this fact solely due to your meaningless, pointless hate towards SasuSaku.
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And Sasuke HAD to go on that extremely long, difficult mission. He was the ONLY one who could have done it, as only he had the Rinnegan.
He began it ONLY in order to protect his family, his village and the entire world in general from a threat that might have been even bigger than Kaguya, as he himself stated in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 5.
Also, just like Sakura herself confirmed in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, it was the fact that Sasuke treasured both her and Sarada extremely much that had made Sasuke begin that extremely dangerous mission in the first place. He wanted to make sure that his loved ones were completely safe.
:"3
And, by the way, Sarada was only 11 during the events of Gaiden, NOT 12.
And Sasuke DID spend some time with Sakura and baby Sarada in Konoha before leaving for that mission.
This was CONFIRMED by the first one of Sarada's flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, in which BOTH Sasuke and Sakura were helping Sarada learn how to walk.
And YES, that was an actual flashback, NOT just Sarada's imagination. This fact can be clearly seen from the way that panel was drawn. It was really blurred and unclear. The colours were light and uneven. It looked like it was becoming clearer and clearer as the seconds passed.
^ The fact that Sarada had her Sharingan activated during those moments helped her remember a really old and important memory, which she had initially forgotten.
And we can clearly see how Sarada's imagination actually looks like when she imagined how her and Sasuke's meeting would be like. It was completely clear and the colours were dark and even.
Also, why would a series of flashbacks starts with a simple imagination anyway?
Therefore, Sasuke DID spend around two years in Konoha with Sakura and Sarada before leaving and, thus, was able to watch Sarada growing up for some time, which is REALLY important.
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Regarding the reason why Karin kept a part of the umbilical cord between Sakura and Sarada:
Karin probably kept the cord as Sasuke and Sakura were travelling when Sarada was born at her hideout. Therefore, they probably didn’t even pay much attention to the umbilical cord and let Karin have it, as a gift for letting them stay at the hideout, for helping Sakura give birth and probably for letting them rest there for a few days after Sarada’s birth. If they weren’t the ones who had offered Karin the cord, then, still, they probably didn’t pay much attention to it (as it would have been kind of difficult to travel with a cord at them and keep it in a good condition in the same time) and Karin herself decided to keep it, as a way to remember the day she helped during Sarada’s birth. Also, that wasn’t even the full cord. An umbilical cord is much longer than that. It was just a piece of it.
Also, Karin’s words (”Bonds… Connections… They come in all kinds of forms…”) were drawn along with the umbilical cord as this suggests that she is now somehow “connected” to the Uchiha Family and that she formed a new bond with them, because of the fact that she was present at Sarada’s birth scene and and because of the fact that they were both grateful as she helped Sakura while giving birth, therefore helping the Uchiha Family. Both Sakura and Sasuke must have highly appreciated her for the help. Also, she formed a new bond of friendship with Sakura, as Karin herself stated.
Furthermore, just like it happened with Sarada’s glasses, without this umbilical cord, there would have been no plot for Naruto Gaiden. There had to be something which would have made Sarada think that Sakura is "not" her real mother, so that she will understand that relationships are based on love and memories, not on blood connections. The DNA does not matter and Sarada finally understood this.
So, how could Kishi have made Sarada think that Karin "is" her real mother? If Sakura and Sasuke had immediately answered her questions, she would have found out the truth right away and would have NEVER understood that relationships aren’t based on blood.
Therefore, the only way she could have thought that Sakura was "not" her real mother was by making Sarada believe that an "actual" DNA test proved this AND both of her parents had to not be around her while she saw the DNA results, in order not to tell her right away that the test was wrong, so she would have had the time to learn that lesson.
Sarada needed this lesson in order to have a new dream: the dream of becoming Hokage. She now knows that a Hokage has the entire village as his/her family, because connections are based on love and memories, so this is why she now desires to become one.
:"3
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Dude, like, leave her alone, will you?
No better yet, LEAVE EVERYONE ALONE and stop trying to prove a point
Naruto is already over. Accept that your so-called "precious" shipping is now canon
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No.
Can you actually explain why you're telling ME to "leave her alone", while you should be actually telling HER to stop being delusional and to actually accept the canon facts the way they are?
I mean, go on, headcanon what you want and create as many fanfictions as you want, BUT stop being in denial and ACKNOWLEDGE how the canon and the reality itself the way they ARE.
And I am not trying to "prove" anything, because what I'm saying is already proved and official, as everything is sustained by the manga ITSELF. c;
All I'm trying to do is stop the haters' delusions and make them accept the reality. :"3
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Not everyone wants to follow your canon, honey.
We already KNOW that SasuSaku is canon.
We already KNOW that Sakura is Sarada's mother.
Like, get over it already.
ItaSasu has different opinions, meaning, she can make all these opinions whatever she wants.
Everyone has different opinions and they shouldn't be arguing about that.
If they say that SasuSaku is an awful canon ship, then it's awful.
If NaruHina is awful, then it's awful to them.
You go around dA, trying to stop the haters delusions? You're replying to comments that were made like a year ago.. >__>
Don't you think they would give a fuck about what you said?
I mean, clearly, they already knew that Sakura is Sarada's mother after the chapter came out
So, there's no need for you to reply to comments that were made long time ago and trying to prove the SS is canon.
It's annoying, really. No one wants to see you waste your hours doing that mess.
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If she acknowledged the canon facts, WHY isn't she completely accepting the fact that Sakura is Sarada's mother already?
I am not trying to make anyone "follow my canon". As I've already said, everyone can ship whatever they like and, of course, can have their own headcanons and fanfictions.
^ BUT they have to acknowledge the canon, even if they don't agree with it.
It was stated that Sakura is Sarada's mother and, thus, this is a CANON fact and has to be accepted. It simply cannot be denied, as it was already confirmed in the actual manga.
Despite this, can't you see just how hard she's trying to prove that there's "still a possibility of Karin being the mother", even though the characters THEMSELVES already officially confirmed otherwise?
SHE is the one who's being delusionsal and is spreading pointless hate towards a ship. All I'm doing is defend the ship with some actual facts that tend to be so easily overlooked by the haters.
Even if you don't like something and have your own idea regarding it, you STILL have to accept that, in reality, things didn't actually go as you wanted.
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But you're making other SasuSaku shippers look bad by going around, defending the pairing like they're your precious babies and trying to pick a fight with others with your replies that no one would bother to read.
Look, I know a few people whom are SS fans, but that don't mean I go attacking them for following their pairing.
Everyone has their right to make up their own pairing and their next-gen.
Whatever they do, that's their business.
But from looking at those multiple reply posts to itasasu2002 , you're not leaving her alone, are you?
You're literally spamming her inbox with that mess and she doesn't have time to be dealing with you.
Just leave her alone and stop spamming her inbox with those comments.
Because I know from her point of view, reading all of those comments is a complete waste of time
And she could block you any second if you keep replying to her. :/
Just stop, will ya?
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its pretty damn obvious that salad is Karin's real mom.
the cloths, the bad eye site, some of her mannerisms, the extra chakra boost.
of coarse she "acts like sakura", because she was raised by sakura.
oh, and don't let alwaysSakuBITCHUchiHOE insult you, their just mad because SS is a fake-ass canon and a fake-asss ship, where sasuke leaves sakura's stupid ass for 12 years with a baby and doesn't contact her or even want to kiss her desperate ass.
and now their mad because there is still a chance that Karin is salad's real mom. ( and no, I don't believe Karin's story.)
a marriage+ a baby does NOT equal a "happy/healthy" relationship, sasuke is still away, not giving sakura what she really wants (which she'll never get by the way), ignoring his supposed "family", sakura is still a desperate 12 year old in a 30 year olds body, ss has never kissed, no wedding pictures or proof of marriage, (no, I don't believe in the "my wife"/ "My husband" bullshit, because those are just labels.)
and the only reason he's still with sakuBITCH is because of their child, that's just sad for such a pathetic excuse of a "canon ship".
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she is beafuile and sarada mom opps sorry ihave bad habbit of spoling
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Actually, Karin isn't Sarada's mom! c: In chapter 10, Karin explains to Suigetsu that she was the acting doctor that delivered Sarada from Sakura. Basically, Karin confirms that Sakura is, indeed, Sarada's real, birth mother~
Oops! I didn't realize your comment was from before the new chapter, sorry!
I always knew that Sarada was actually Sakura's biological child, anyhow. It's all about knowing how Kishimoto works. Besides, I think he's ruined Sasuke enough and given him quite the bad name, I didn't think he'd add adultery to it and screw with Sakura THAT much, you know?
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To itasasu2002 :
I hope you'll also read EVERY single one of my previous posts on the main comment section.
:"3
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To itasasu2002 :
Keep being in denial, as Sasuke, Sakura AND Karin THEMSELVES confirmed in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10 that Sakura is, indeed, Sarada's real mother.
Firstly, Sakura herself said right away that she is Sarada's real mother.
Secondly, Sasuke himself also basically stated that Sarada is the living proof of him and Sakura being connected, thus basically stating that she is the living proof of him and Sakura loving each other. After their marriage, he and Sakura decided to transform their love into a precious child. If he and Sakura hadn't loved each other, Sarada wouldn't have existed. She wouldn't have been born. But she EXISTS and her simple existence shows the deep connection between her parents. c;
^ This is what Sasuke truly meant while saying: "Because you EXIST, Sarada.". (This is what he truly said in both the raws and the Media Viz translation, which is the only official translation. Thus, in the online translations, his words were WRONGLY translated as "Because we have you, Sarada.")
^ Sarada immediately understood Sasuke's words perfectly and, thus, started crying happily right after hearing them, as this was the ultimate confirmation she needed in order to know for sure that Sakura really was her real mother! c;
Also, Karin herself said that the umbilical cord was between Sakura and Sarada (this being the reason why the DNA test was 100% positive, as an umbilical cord contains only the DNA of the child), that she was the one who had only helped Sakura give birth to Sarada (thus, being the midwife) and that she had only wanted Sasuke to be happy (thus, basically admitting that Sakura was he only one who could bring happiness to Sasuke).
So, sadly for you, there's no space for delusions, as Sakura was officially confirmed as Sarada's real mother in the actual manga and, thus, this is a FACT. :"3
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To itasasu2002 :
Furthermore, bad vision is NOT hereditary necessarily.
For example, a kid whose parents don't need glasses might STILL need them. In the same time, a kid might not need to wear glasses, even if BOTH of their parents need them.
^ Thus, needing glasses proves NOTHING.
Furthermore, in the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 8, Sarada was NOT initially wearing glasses. She was only shown as wearing them AFTER she had been seriously sick and had had a really high fever. Thus, it is highly possible that that illness was what deteriorated her eyesight.
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To itasasu2002 :
Regarding the reason why Karin kept a part of the umbilical cord between Sakura and Sarada:
Karin probably kept a part of Sarada's umbilical cord as Sasuke and Sakura were travelling when Sarada was born at her hideout. Therefore, they probably didn’t even pay much attention to the umbilical cord and let Karin have it, as a gift for letting them stay at the hideout, for helping Sakura give birth and probably for letting them rest there for a few days after Sarada’s birth. Thus, they offered it to her in order to show their gratitude. If they weren’t the ones who had offered Karin the cord, then, still, they probably didn’t pay much attention to it (as it would have been kind of difficult to travel with a cord at them and keep it in a good condition in the same time) and Karin herself decided to keep it, as a way to remember the day she helped during Sarada’s birth. Also,as I've said, that wasn’t even the full cord. An umbilical cord is much longer than that. It was just a piece of it.
Also, Karin’s words (”Bonds… Connections… They come in all kinds of forms…”) were drawn along with the umbilical cord as this suggests that she is now somehow “connected” to the Uchiha Family and that she formed a new bond with them, because of the fact that she was present at Sarada’s birth scene and and because of the fact that they were both grateful as she helped Sakura while giving birth, therefore helping the Uchiha Family. Karin wad the one who assisted Sakura during Sarada's birth, thus being the midwife. Both Sakura and Sasuke must have highly appreciated her for the help. Also, she formed a new bond of friendship with Sakura, as Karin herself stated in Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10.
Furthermore, just like it happened with Sarada’s glasses, without this umbilical cord, there would have been no plot for Naruto Gaiden. There had to be something which would have made Sarada think that Sakura is "not" her real mother, so that she will understand that relationships are based on love and memories, not on blood connections. The DNA does not matter and Sarada finally understood this.
So, how could Kishi have made Sarada think that Karin "is" her real mother? If Sakura and Sasuke had immediately answered her questions, she would have found out the truth right away and would have NEVER understood that relationships aren’t based on blood.
Therefore, the only way she could have thought that Sakura was "not" her real mother was by making Sarada believe that an "actual" DNA test proved this AND both of her parents had to not be around her while she saw the DNA results, in order not to tell her right away that the test was wrong, so she would have had the time to learn that lesson.
Sarada needed this lesson in order to have a new dream: the dream of becoming Hokage. She now knows that a Hokage has the entire village as their family, because connections are based on love and memories, so this is why she now desires to become one.
Therefore, YES, on this occasion, the part of the umbilical cord was, indeed, offered as a gift.
:"3
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actually, there is evidence that Karin COULD possibly be her mom.
i'm not saying she is, but there is a possibility, since everything in gaiden doesn't add up.
if she is sakura's brat, then why does salad need glasses? why does Karin have salad's umbilical cord? (which traditionally, the mother keeps). (and no, you don't just give away an umbilical cord as a "gift", it doesn't make much sense.)
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we all know from the design she was intended to be Saradas mom it was only changed at the last minute to fit the new ending. So no worries
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And we all know that you simply refuse to understand this Manga and its morals. And it's so funny that you're actually saying this, despite the fact that Sarada’s facial features resemble Sakura’s extremely much, as they literally have the same eye shape, face shape, big forehead and expressions. Also, never forget how she also inherited Sakura’s extremely good chakra control, thus being able to punch the ground just like her and having the very same great strength. And funny how you're completely ignoring the fact that the Japanese VAs confirmed in an interview that Kishi had told them right from their first meeting that SS would be canon and he hadn't mentioned anything about any other couple. But, "yeah", "of course", "everything was changed at the last minute". Sure, Jen.
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No, It's ok. I already knew.
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I am for sakura and sasuke but I had feeling for a long time Karin was her mom
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Can't believe that even some SS shippers fell for Kishi's trolling. '-'
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