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Blur-Falco [2014-08-28 19:16:32 +0000 UTC]
Any more pages?
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Blur-Falco In reply to Boyann [2014-09-04 01:23:47 +0000 UTC]
Ah. OK.
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Captain-Sweden [2010-09-21 19:07:55 +0000 UTC]
Ha, I - or rather, my sister - had a few Tom 'n' Jerry comic books (I bet it's still somewhere tucked with my Donald Duck comics). It's still published in Sweden.
One of the companion comics was a non-Disney comic by Carl Barks, Bruno BjΓΆrn it was called in Sweden, Barney Bear in USA (I just checked Wikipedia).
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Boyann In reply to Captain-Sweden [2010-09-21 19:30:42 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I know that in Scandinavian countries this particular kind of comics remains enormously popular. Who knows... maybe you or your sis shall stumble upon some pages drawn by me long time ago..?!
I've never ever known that Carl Barks drew Barney Bear..! I remember his MGM cartoon shorts but preferred T & J and Tex Avery mad, mad cartoons. Carl Barks was one of the best draughtsmen in the whole comicbook business.
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Captain-Sweden In reply to Boyann [2010-09-21 20:54:01 +0000 UTC]
I just realised; the specific comic book issues in question were published and bought in the early 1980's. Now, asking a dude about his age ain't as bad as asking a lady about hers, but if you're sensitive about it, I'm sorry for bringing it up.
Agreed about Carl Barks. Funny thing about comics based on cartoons, is that in comics, the characters usually are more intelligent (thanks to more dialogue, less action oriented plots etc). Donald Duck cartoons are great but it's in comics the character really gets loveable.
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Boyann In reply to Captain-Sweden [2010-09-21 23:11:48 +0000 UTC]
I worked on Condor Verlag GmbH, Hamburg version of German TOM UND JERRY comics with everything else in between, in the period of 1987-1991.
I am VERY old, I still think WHITESNAKE is the coolest band in the world. And they are.
I found comicbook versions of animated characters actually castrated but that's a different story... Tom & Jerry were violent, ruthles, sometimes utterly evil - and in comics I had to draw them AS CLOSE FRIENDS, having every now and then a misunderstanding. FOR SHAME!!!!!
Political Correctness is killing humour, fun and violence as the most important part of entertainment!
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Boyann In reply to Captain-Sweden [2010-09-22 21:59:02 +0000 UTC]
Of course the chances are slim if you've got either non-German version of the comics series or issues before 1987. I know, I'm THAT old... even older...
To me, T&J make NO SENSE AT ALL if they're talking, friendly, not throwing pianos at each other or using dynamite to blast each other to smithereens... sorry but I'm old skool here.
You're right that in today's Politically Correct times it's impossible to have TaleSpin, Duck Tales or Darkwing Duck on TV anymore.
Especially not Animaniacs, The Best TV Cartoon EVER, bar none.
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teacherpump [2010-09-14 13:23:53 +0000 UTC]
Excelent style, love the cartoon expression, and your manage of the planes, keep an eye in the dynamic of the story, cause the first planes in almost all the page make the story boring, in case of a talking of two or more characters, give more planes to the dynamic of their bodies and the space: anyway great piece of graphic narration, love your style dude, plase i wish u check out my profile and see other style, is good to talk about different ploes in the scope of the graphic narration, if u want to i will waiting for u.... keep drawing.... keep dreaming....
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Boyann In reply to teacherpump [2010-09-14 14:49:55 +0000 UTC]
Many thanks.
I wrote you the NOTE and hope we'll continue our discussion some other time.
You honour me with your analytical approach and I'm grateful, a lot.
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joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 13:19:08 +0000 UTC]
looks great. i'd love to draw a funny animal comic.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 14:51:56 +0000 UTC]
Much obliged!
In Europe and probably S.America there are still some funy animal comics surviving but all in all, the genre is all but extinct in animation and comics.
It is a lost art nowadays, my friend...
Because Disney comics are surviving somehow, it doesn't mean the whole genre is alive and well, unfortunatelly...
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 15:33:32 +0000 UTC]
yeah. it seems like most of the animal stuff i see is all the pervy anthro soft porn. i can't wrap my head around it.
i guess i'll have to be happy with my carl marks library vols.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 17:18:22 +0000 UTC]
Carl Marx library is something that should be forgotten and never EVER mentioned considering the evil that 'philospohy' has created throughout the world poisoning many a sane mind.
On the other hand, Carl BARKS is the author whose volumes you should cherish in your library.
OK, I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT, MAN, JUST WANTED TO PATRONIZE A BIT LIKE A SMART @$$, SORRY.
You're right -- although I don't mind porn - soft or hard - I just don't find the so-called 'anthro' neither charming nor titillating. I'm sure that there is a moment - probably in the late 40's to mid 50's when funny comics [bigfoot, funny animals etc.] simply lost the purpose, appeal and reason to exist. The European publications still doing it later, till recently, were the last death throes of the whole genre that's gone for good, like romacne comics, to a certain extent Westerns etc.
Pity...
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 17:21:47 +0000 UTC]
doh! my candy bar fingers strike again.
i'll never understand why comics can't support genres that are popular in other media. humor/funny animals are popular animated in film or cartoons.
better a smart-ass than a dumb-ass.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 18:08:42 +0000 UTC]
Hah! Candy bar fingers -- gotta make a mental note..!
It's not comics that don't support this or that. It's the readers, I reckon, because they're the ones who vote - and they vote with their wallets, purses and coinbags.
Unlike you, I don't see that popularity in animation. When was the last time you had ANIMANIACS, PINKY & THE BRAIN, or old WB or MGM cartoon shorts on TV..? Who remembers Tex Avery, Bob Clampett, Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, Bob McKimson..?
Exactly.
And truth to say... I've almost always felt that the comicbook or comic strip versions of those hillarious animated characters somehow sucked, like they're castrated and 'un-funnyized' -- to avoid offending anyone, I reckon...
This is the 'Brave' New World with New World Order and things we used to love and cherish are gone, mate. Did ANY of those attempts to revive such characters and comics or even introduce new ones succeed..?
Exactly.
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 18:25:12 +0000 UTC]
i see what you're saying about there not being any right now ( i guess. i don't really know ), but no one would blink if there was a new funny animal cartoon. whereas, comic readers don't seem to connect.
when i say comics, of course i include the readers. they're the slack-jawed fuel that keeps the retarded engine running.
it occurs to me there have been some live action/ computer animated animal films. g-force. the cats v dogs movies. over the hedge. kung-fu panda. even movies with animals interacting with people. garfield. marmaduke. that brandon frasier thing.
sure most have been bad, but isn't most of anything? you can't blame the genre, just the hacks crappin' out the work.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 18:53:45 +0000 UTC]
I could elaborate with my reply regarding this missive of yours, my friend, but you've said The Magic Three Words: KUNG. FU. And PANDA.
Now, imagine someone doing a comicbook like that... it would be HILARIOUS and funny and witty and...
... who'd read, regularly buy and support it..?
See where I'm coming from..?
I am aware of some publisher doing funny and NON-Disney stuff, only it is not prominent.
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 19:02:47 +0000 UTC]
that's my point. comics won't support it. make a movie, and people of all ages will show up in droves.
after my current inking gigs, i'm going to focus a bit more on creator owned projects. i'm not going all out funny animal, but i plan to flirt with it a bit.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 19:12:54 +0000 UTC]
The best world is the one where creator does things that make him happy and satisfy his urges and needs.
We don't live in such a world and Scooby-Doo comics were never beloved or read on the level those cartoons were adored and supported.
I never liked Scooby-Doo, Scrappy-Doo or those extremelly unfunny Hanna-Barbera cartoons. Comicbook versions of them were especially on the other side of 'funny' is spite of some nice looking drawings everynow and then.
Best of luck with your endeavour, keep me posted, please. Cheers!
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 20:18:06 +0000 UTC]
funny you should mention scoob. i pencilled a couple of stories a couple of years ago. the art was given the thumbs down by hb and they've yet to see print. i'll post em in my gallery at some point.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-14 23:09:16 +0000 UTC]
I can't believe how lenient was my German publisher and editor at the time... I remember him returning the artwork for corrections ONLY TWICE in 5 years - and once I did on my own corrections since I was unhappy, not him...
Total free reign, no interference with storylines or the way I treated characters updating them to look less like they're still in 40's or early 50's... I introduced clothes, living in real houses, not kennels etc.
Today - like with your H-B experience - it's a total ruthless 'quality' control for the control's sake, NOT QUALITY's!!! The more you're faithful to styleguides, the more they nit-pick and you suddenly realize you can't earn at all since you're embroilled in vicious circle of constant corrections and amends... a horror...
I don't think I'd like to go back into working on Disney kids' comics or any company-owned property where I have to imitate strictly someone else's style to the point of puking. Look at, say, Daredevil -- several artists, several interpretations and yet you always recognize it's ol' HornHead...
... or any other character.
Remember the Batman comics based on Bruce Timm style..? From Ty Templeton over Brad Rader to the late Mike Parobeck and all other fantastic draughtsmen -- it was recognizable and yet INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION of the given style guide. Now, THAT'S what I like!
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joltinjohnnylucas In reply to Boyann [2010-09-15 13:40:58 +0000 UTC]
the thing that made me through my hands up in the air was the editors disbelief when i asked him to send me notes. he thought his suggestion that i "take another pass at it" was enough.
oddly enough, after i posted the pages on my comicartfans.com gallery, a former disney artist contacted me to tell me how much he liked them.
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Boyann In reply to joltinjohnnylucas [2010-09-15 15:07:53 +0000 UTC]
What an example..!
I remember when I worked in the UK on a popular licensed comicbook based on the popular action TV series at the time... in that studio that produced lots of licensed comics, posters and illustrations [bad payers, of course - very little, always late - the works] they had several dreadful people in charge of 'quality control'. Those killjoys and spoilsports never talked to anyone, used to paste on artwork notes such as 'Look better the likeness of the character... Avoid action shots in fight scenes with female fighters spreading legs towards the viewer... Make breasts much smaller...' etc.
I never understood the remark LOOK BETTER THE LIKENESS. I looked and realized looking didn't make my drawn faces appear more similar to the TV actors. What's more abysmal, they had an artist in the studio who whited-out my faces renditions reinking over that so the characters appeared even less similar to the actors.
The worst was when they kept penciled pages for weeks 'to go carefully through them' and when they invite me to pick up the stuff for inking, I was usually given LOTS of corections to do AND INK THE DAMN THING OVERNIGHT [6-8 up to 10 pages per episode!!!] because they need it for tomorrow!!! THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE COMMON SENSE TO COMPREHEND IT'S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL SUCH A STUNT IN 12-14 HOURS!!! But I had to do it and I delivered rushed, poorly looking and overly criticized art... Horrible period, horrible gigs...
It's what John Kricfalusi [famous Ren & Stimpy creator and phenomenal animator and artist] described when telling stories about people in charge of animation studios who don't have the faintest idea about animation or drawing but have severe, passionate hatred for cartoonist whom they consider probably as on the same mental level of grown-ups who still wet their bed or publicly touch their privates and use the phrase 'aw duh' a lot in between words in their terse inane sentences.
The compliment given to you by the ex-Disney artist says it all.
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Boyann In reply to cdmalcolm [2010-09-14 12:54:37 +0000 UTC]
Spanks & Mwanks for your kindness and support.
Yeah... I kinda used to be good back in the day when I was doing bulldogs continuously till they became my second nature...
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cdmalcolm In reply to Boyann [2010-09-14 22:42:35 +0000 UTC]
lol, that's how I was with drawing hair, back in the day for salons...
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Boyann In reply to the-kid36 [2010-09-14 12:55:06 +0000 UTC]
Much obliged for your generosity, compadre.
You ROKK.
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