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Plokman6 [2019-05-16 18:03:01 +0000 UTC]
Wait you mean Dolgoch has a class name? I thought he and the other Talyllyn locos were one offs, well aside from Douglas as he is a member of a class that was larger gauge wise. But the FJ engines have class designations, would that include Captain Baxter?
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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-17 00:50:13 +0000 UTC]
I think it's Tom Rolt you're thinking of, not Douglas. Douglas is an Andrew Barclay & Sons E Class and used to be 2' gauge, where as Tom Rolt was formerly a 3' gauge well-tank engine from a peat plantation in Ireland.
I'm guessing like Dolgoch, engines of Captain Baxter's design were offered in Fletcher-Jennings catalogues, but I've never seen one.
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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-17 02:09:38 +0000 UTC]
Oh right I had them flipped, my mistake but I meant Douglas is a class member of Andrew Barclay E locos that was regauged. While all the others as far as I am aware were single design examples, but I guess they had classes too pitty we do not know the names of the other classes.
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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-17 02:41:14 +0000 UTC]
Sir Haydn is a Hughes Falcon; there were quite a lot of those. Edward Thomas is a Kerr Stuart Tattoo; she has two surviving sisters, although one is a new-build. Talyllyn seems to be unique as a Fletcher/Jennings Class C; she was modified not long after arriving in Towyn, whereas Dolgoch remained much as she'd been built.
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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-17 03:18:47 +0000 UTC]
I am amazed, I should of known that they were Class based save Talyllyn as there are more engines of that design out there, The Tattoo class being the most obvious afterall they have the telltale Valve Gear which correct me if I am wrong but that was sort of a trademark or maybe Hallmark for Kerr Stuart's Narrow Gauge engines wasn't it?
Indeed Talyllyn is the only one that has no true brothers or sisters out there modified or not, having started life out as a cabless 0-4-0 but having the ride quality like a wild bronco which lead to the fitting of the two trailing wheels under her cab which was added around the same time as her new wheel set. Honestly I don't know how I made this much of a mistake considering how knowledgeable I am on the Welsh designed Small Trains, then again I am still a middle of the road rail lover I got alot to learn but I know alot that many may never know.
Thank you for the thought provoking subject my friend, I do wish we knew what class Baxter was in that old catalogue but I doubt we will ever see one intact, the national collection and the Narrow Gauge Museum Collection are far from having all we could ever hope was still around.
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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-18 03:01:47 +0000 UTC]
No problem, mate.
And yes, quite a lot of Kerr Stuart's narrow gauge engines sported modified Hackworth valve gear, inspired by a form of motion Timothy Hackworth himself used on the engine he submitted for the Rainhill Trials.
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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-20 02:04:47 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, Hackworth valves are quite interesting to see in motion as are outside Stephenson gears. So much verity on what can only be called poetry in motion, I know it is the one detail that always catches my eye and coupling rods are oddly my biggest nitpick on the CGI version of Thomas.
I do like how they made them look so much more substantial looking on all the inside cylinder locos but I always notice in many shots that they animate the coupling rod rigs precisely symmetrical, I.E. if the wheels on one side are at twelve o'clock then their mates are at twelve as well. It just gets my attention so much when I see them not properly quartered especially since their attempt at inside motion is quartered consistency much?
Ah but I kid at least with Stephen they animate rocket's valve gear and drive rods correct, then again unlike larger engines it's much easier to hide "laziness" as I like to call it. Hope you didn't mind the Sudrian tangent there, it just came to mind after we started talking about valve gear.
On that note I do like to see engines like Sierra No. 3's valve gear in motion, given you only see part of it it really does a lot to show how subtle yet mesmerizing a engine can be.
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