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BrassPolish — My Top Ten Steam Locomotives

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10. The SECR/SR N "Woolworths" – The Maunsell U Boats are overrated. The Ns were lighter, stronger, and better at climbing hills. As light and strong engines go, I wouldn't put them up there with the Manors, the Q1s, and the 7Fs, but give me the sole surviving N over one of the four Us every time.

9. The Rebuilt SR Merchant Navy/West Country/Battle Of Britain Pacifics - I love these engines not for the Bulleid features BR did away with, but for the Bulleid features they retained; the Bulleid Firth Brown wheels, the steel firebox with thermic syphons, and the incredibly photogenic oval smokebox door.

8. Stephenson's Planet - Rocket's overrated. Significant, but outdated within a year of entering service. Planet was the first locomotive mounted on frames, to collect steam in a dome, and given maximum stability by having the cylinders mounted below the engine in between the frames. It was this engine that created the blueprint for the quintessential steam locomotive.

7. The LNER F4 “Gobblers” - Not only is this an example of an Eastern class fitted with push-pull apparatus, but it's also an example of a UK locomotive that wore cow catchers... that's not a J70, a Y6, or an 04. Look for the Fraserburgh-St Combs branchline, and you'll find an LNER D51 and an LMS 2MT Mickey Mouse Mogul with a cow catcher as well. There's also a Y5 that worked at docks in Colchester who wore cow catchers and aprons. But like I said, this was the first non J70/Y6/04 I've stumbled upon.

6. The LMS 8Fs / LNER O6s - These engines were ubiquitous as fuck. And of course, one of these, No.48706, was the inspiration for October, as she worked pretty much everywhere in the UK accept Scotland; hence why I made up that outrageous story about an LMS spy who had a corridor tender secretly built north of the boarder.

5. The LMS 4Fs / Midland 3835s - What I love about these little guys is that no matter how many times they were outperformed and exiled by newer, bigger, and stronger engines, they never lost their usefulness. The 7Fs boot them off the S&D, the Super Ds tell them to get the fuck outta the LNWR, the 8Fs reduce them to slow goods, Riddles WDs take their wartime traffic… they move right on to whatever’s next. thumbs up I also kinda laugh at the joke that there are five of these preserved, as the sole surviving SR Q is barely distinguishable from an LMS 4F.

4. The LB&SCR D3s – Thanks to PrimevalBrony for introducing me to this class. I'm a sucker for 0-4-4 tanks in general, and in preservation, most of the 0-4-4s are Southern; the acceptions are Met 1, Dunrobin, and the Caledonian one. But a class that took down a Luftwaffe takes the cake. Plus, you can’t deny the magnetism of Stroudly’s liveries.

3. The SR Q1s - I don’t give a shit if these engines are weird-looking. It’s an 0-6-0 with a 5F power rating that only weighs 51 and a quarters tons! If you need an engine that’s light, strong, and easy to mend and maintain, look no further... and maybe have the stones to strip away the casing and bring the weight down even lower. Though I won’t deny, the BFB wheels make maintenance tricky. Pity Bulleid never thought to introduce Australia’s SCOA-P wheels to the UK. The BR Standard Range certainly would’ve benefitted, that’s for damn sure as mustard.

2. Chevalier - Vector-Brony would warn you; “Don’t bring up this engine in front of Brass! He’ll bore you to tears talking about how great it would be if after the Campbeltown & Machrihanish Light Railway shut down, this engine was taken to an industrial railway or a farmer or something and was still around in the 50s, and how if she'd been donated, the Talyllyn Preservation Railway would’ve become the hub of 2’3” gauge in the UK!”

1. The GWR 78xx Manors - This is the class that got me interested in the impressive steam loco combination of light and strong in the first place. An express passenger engine that weighed less than 70 tons and could conquer steep climbs. Also, they’re well-suited for passenger trains on single-line heritage railways in the era of preservation. I can’t resist imagining one of these being the flagship engine on a rural branchline, hauling suburban third class coaches and a few cattle trucks, sporting SCOA-P wheels, a double chimney, and a 4000 gallon tender with TIMKEN roller bearings. Also, imagine how much lighter she'd be if her running plate was modified to sit above the driving wheels.
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Comments: 7

Plokman6 [2019-05-16 18:03:01 +0000 UTC]

Wait you mean Dolgoch has a class name? I thought he and the other Talyllyn locos were one offs, well aside from Douglas as he is a member of a class that was larger gauge wise. But the FJ engines have class designations, would that include Captain Baxter?

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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-17 00:50:13 +0000 UTC]

I think it's Tom Rolt you're thinking of, not Douglas. Douglas is an Andrew Barclay & Sons E Class and used to be 2' gauge, where as Tom Rolt was formerly a 3' gauge well-tank engine from a peat plantation in Ireland.

I'm guessing like Dolgoch, engines of Captain Baxter's design were offered in Fletcher-Jennings catalogues, but I've never seen one.

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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-17 02:09:38 +0000 UTC]

Oh right I had them flipped, my mistake but I meant Douglas is a class member of Andrew Barclay E locos that was regauged. While all the others as far as I am aware were single design examples, but I guess they had classes too pitty we do not know the names of the other classes.

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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-17 02:41:14 +0000 UTC]

Sir Haydn is a Hughes Falcon; there were quite a lot of those. Edward Thomas is a Kerr Stuart Tattoo; she has two surviving sisters, although one is a new-build. Talyllyn seems to be unique as a Fletcher/Jennings Class C; she was modified not long after arriving in Towyn, whereas Dolgoch remained much as she'd been built.

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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-17 03:18:47 +0000 UTC]

I am amazed, I should of known that they were Class based save Talyllyn as there are more engines of that design out there, The Tattoo class being the most obvious afterall they have the telltale Valve Gear which correct me if I am wrong but that was sort of a trademark or maybe Hallmark for Kerr Stuart's Narrow Gauge engines wasn't it?

Indeed Talyllyn is the only one that has no true brothers or sisters out there modified or not, having started life out as a cabless 0-4-0 but having the ride quality like a wild bronco which lead to the fitting of the two trailing wheels under her cab which was added around the same time as her new wheel set. Honestly I don't know how I made this much of a mistake considering how knowledgeable I am on the Welsh designed Small Trains, then again I am still a middle of the road rail lover I got alot to learn but I know alot that many may never know.

Thank you for the thought provoking subject my friend, I do wish we knew what class Baxter was in that old catalogue but I doubt we will ever see one intact, the national collection and the Narrow Gauge Museum Collection are far from having all we could ever hope was still around.

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BrassPolish In reply to Plokman6 [2019-05-18 03:01:47 +0000 UTC]

No problem, mate.

And yes, quite a lot of Kerr Stuart's narrow gauge engines sported modified Hackworth valve gear, inspired by a form of motion Timothy Hackworth himself used on the engine he submitted for the Rainhill Trials.

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Plokman6 In reply to BrassPolish [2019-05-20 02:04:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, Hackworth valves are quite interesting to see in motion as are outside Stephenson gears. So much verity on what can only be called poetry in motion, I know it is the one detail that always catches my eye and coupling rods are oddly my biggest nitpick on the CGI version of Thomas.

I do like how they made them look so much more substantial looking on all the inside cylinder locos but I always notice in many shots that they animate the coupling rod rigs precisely symmetrical, I.E. if the wheels on one side are at twelve o'clock then their mates are at twelve as well. It just gets my attention so much when I see them not properly quartered especially since their attempt at inside motion is quartered consistency much?

Ah but I kid at least with Stephen they animate rocket's valve gear and drive rods correct, then again unlike larger engines it's much easier to hide "laziness" as I like to call it. Hope you didn't mind the Sudrian tangent there, it just came to mind after we started talking about valve gear.

On that note I do like to see engines like Sierra No. 3's valve gear in motion, given you only see part of it it really does a lot to show how subtle yet mesmerizing a engine can be.

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