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I do like Starlight Glimmer, she's a cute pony like all of them, however the hype in the brony fandom about her being a, quote "communist" is heavily misunderstood. As a long standing communist of Marxist-Leninist philosophy, I can say from experience of my study that she is not a communist. Communism is not only equality, nor is it to the extent that Starlight Glimmer expanded it to, justice has to be involved to organize and regulate the proper flow of order and equality. Along with this her total and utter unquestioned control is not anywhere supported in communist philosophy, the communist ideology welcomes criticism and self criticism especially, to deny that is to deny bettering the party and individuals.Related content
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Communism is a flawed system that tries to play against the human condition, leading it to become easily corrupted.
The reason capitalism works is because it goes with the grain on human instinct. Greed, demand to be paid better for doing a better job, these are hall marks of humanity.
Also, the proletariat revolution included the brutal murder of the czar's children, because apparently killing children is ok if their father's a piece of shit.
So, no, I don't really think Starlight is communist, because I actually like her as a character.
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1: Human condition, like human nature, change constantly with the change of society. So no, communism does not play against either or, for communism is a change of society that will then change the aspect of human nature, and condition.
2: Capitalism works on the aspect of believing exploitation and wage slavery is right, which it isn't from a logical standpoint. Greed is not instinct, it is not something that comes natural because if it was the existence of communists would be impossible, plus the existence of societies built on community and collective effort would not exist in history, which shows, because of these aspects, if greed was natural, humanity would have collapsed before it even began.
3: There was a lot of killing, in which most of it was probably not by the order of the communists. Every revolution has a history of people not involved with the opposition, dying by the hand of one side, even Native tribes here, who was not involved in the American Revolution, was attacked by American revolutionaries. The French revolution, there was many people in the clergy and aristocracy, including some innocent, who was killed by guillotine. The Tsar was the target, his house was flooded with angry Bolsheviks, they seek to kill him. Besides, if the children was freed alive, all other nations would recognize them as the next leader, and denounce the legitimacy of the new workers state, this is the possible historical reason for the Tsar family most likely being damn near killed off completely (with the exception of a few cousins.)
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She is what happens when communist ideology is applied to the real world like in the USSR and other countless historical real world examples when it always turns corrupt and into a dictatorship. This is why communism will always fail and is a ideology for fools who have no knowledge of real world history or economics.
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No, she's not, and let me explain the major reasons you're wrong on this subject.
Communism =/= state. Communism is a global stateless and classless society, completely absent of government, imperialism, currency, etc. This is explained by many Marxist writers and revolutionaries. Thus, the USSR, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. are not communist
What is established that people get misunderstood with communism is the transition state, which is socialism. Communists have explained this that the socialism is the transition between capitalism to communism, and being that communism is a global society with all the implications I previously explained, no socialist state has ever achieved communism.
Starlight glimmer does not represent socialism or communism, for she takes a anti-science influence and role of control within the community, this is anti-Marxist. Marxist influence, this includes all fields of communist philosophy, is pro-science and pro control of the working class. under both the socialist state and under the communist society.
A socialist state is a dictatorship, a dictatorship of the proletariat (working class)
It's democratic in the name and control of the workers, but dictatorship with the suppression of the capitalist class under the workers control.
The USSR is no different, for under all past soviet leaders, including Stalin, the USSR had a way of order mirrored of the U.S. government system, only with more control given to the working class. The USSR had the soviet, which means by definition council, the soviet was a council of chosen representatives including the head of state (Lenin, Stalin, etc.) The representatives could not act without insight of the population and insight of the head of state, and the head of state could not act without the insight of the representatives, this secures the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is the democratic order of the working class, but suppression of the capitalist class.
As a 5 year standing communist, you're outmatched against someone who actually knows his ideology.
People who speak for communism are intellectuals who speak against exploitation and wage slavery and for control to be given to the builders of the world, the working class.
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Ya you just saying I have been outmatched does not mean I have been outmatched. That is not how it works. Just because you are a communist and have been so for awhile does not mean you know shit about economic quite the opposite actually. People who are communists are the furthest thing from intellectuals what a joke. Now maybe you are exteremly historically noneducational but the USSR, Cuba and Vietnam are all self proclaimed as communist nations and what is important is what actually happens when communism is applied to the real worked where it will always be a corrupt dictatorship just like in MLP. What happens in theory is completely irrelevant when every historical case has always ended in corruption of the ideology, genocide and harsh dictatorship. What happens in practice is far more important then what communist think is supposed to happen. No being a 5 year communist does not mean you magically know what your talking about and neither does it make you any kind of intellectual. Even if you self proclaim it and also self proclaim victory. As an individual with a 4 year education on education specially on macro economics I can safely say that this is indeed what happens when communist ideologies occur in the real world as they always end up being dictatorships and then communists always want to try it again because it was not communism and they seem to have no concept on obvious it will be that large socialist state with that much unchecked power will always turn totalitarian.
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Did you just totally ignore what I said?
Listen for once
Me being a communist means a lot, it means I'm the most qualified to explain the ideology I follow, having others that never studied the ideology at the maximum of years like I have speaking for a ideology they don't understand is like having a Christian explain Islam, or vise versa. Point is, you have no idea what you're talking about and your explanation proves that.
Communists aren't intellectuals? LOL! That's why most famous individuals like Einstein, Huey, Orwell, Tesla, etc. was all self-proclaimed socialists and communists. In fact, enjoy this little article
mises.org/library/why-intellec…
You can't just take a term that has been clearly defined by Marxist writers and just change its definition, again, communism =/= state. Marxists for years, even during WWII have established this in clear context that modern day individuals can understand. And no, these state never have called themselves communist, they have said they're socialist states and that their leaders are communists. You seem to not understand that simple difference.
Again, do research, these "dictatorships" and "corruption" you claim are not only unfounded, but also illogical. The "dictatorships" was ruled by the working class through the representative council of the soviet, it only takes a few google searches to find out that is true.
4 years of education? in macro economics? Lol, like I'm truly intimidated by your petty-bourgeoisie education that lacks both scientific analysis and human compassion. No, your understanding of my ideology only shows your education has failed you. In fact it has already been proven that Western education under the capitalist system is soul crushing, lacks human understanding, lacks basic ideological understanding, and is incredibly lacking in historical understanding.
Unchecked power? do you have no idea how a council of representatives work? In fact did you ignore the simple yet fully detailed explanation I gave on how they work?
Enough of you, you're speaking out regurgitated garbage even you don't truly understand, but spew it because of your years of capitalist propaganda molding your mind to its influence.
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Yes being a self proclaimed communist does not make you inherently and intellectual that is an absurd and truly embarrassing statement to make. The link you provides shows no evidence that any of the people you stated as communists are communists and I would hope a communist would at least know that there is a pretty big difference between socialism and communism. Even if they were communist that does not magically make all communists somehow intellectuals just like for example there are many intellectuals in history with religious backgrounds but does this mean people of that religion are inherently intellectuals? No, that is an obviously false claim that already disproves your claim of being an intellectual by virtue of merely being propagated by the communist ideology. I find it extremely odd that you used a link from an Austrian economics website as they are kind of the opposite extreme in the spectrum and are basically anarcho capitalists and say similar propaganda to communist. In where when you find a fault with capitalism they will never acknowledge it as capitalism fault or a problem in the system but always blame it on "crony capitalism" similar to how communists never admit to faults of communism but instead rename those systems as "state capitalism". Both extreme potions are equally absurd and the world has already shown that a mixed economy is by far the most effective economic system as it mitigates that are in both extreme economic systems of the command economy and a free market economy when they are in there pure form.
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First off: You literally are incompetent to truly believe the follower of a ideology is not qualified to speak accurately on his ideology, that is not only a illogical view point to carry, it's unscientific. And communists pride themselves in remaining true to logic and science.
Second: The link provided was not to connect the people I mentioned to the proven fact backed by said report that communists are intellectuals, they was a example and the report I linked was to back what I said. If you wish to find where the people I mentioned are called socialists/ communists, you can do that with a few google searches, especially Einstein "why socialism" and Orwell's participation in the socialist militia that fought fascists in Spain.
Third: I realize there is a difference between socialism and communism, as a communist that is a basic step to study at the start of researching. However despite they both are different, communists support the establishing of a socialist state before the uniting of the world under communism. Plus because of this and our close similar interest in the removal of the capitalist class communists and socialists are both close allies, that solidarity can not be destroyed.
Forth: You can not compare religious individuals to that of communists. Religious individuals can not be intellectuals because to be a intellectual you must be completely rational and supportive of logic in the world and science that studies the world, religious individuals lack this. The entire platform of communist philosophy sticks to the support of science and logic and the teaching of intellectualism. This is where we have mentioned the science of Marxism, because not only does Marxism tackle social issues, historical issues, economic issues, but it also handles science and intellectual thought.
Fifth: Even under the capitalist society there are reports and issues that have some truth to them, the way you know it is truth is when it is backed by historical evidence and scientific study. However most reports done under the capitalist establishment are lacking or false usually in interest of misguidance and/or increase in capital for the wealthy.
Sixth: There are no faults under communism because communism has not been achieved, seriously, use the proper term or this debate is over. There has been minor issues under socialism because back in the start of the Soviet Union socialism was relatively new, thus mistakes was inevitable, however most issues that took place in socialist establishments have came from the actions of foreign aggression, historians world wide will agree. Overall, the USSR and a few other socialist states have been a huge success, the numbers don't lie.
www.marxists.org/history/ussr/…
Seventh: A mixed economy is a bourgeoisie establishment where the wealthy capitalists still control the working class. It gives the right of control and rule to the people who made the most money through organized wage slavery, while the socialist state does the exact opposite. Every establishment in existence except the socialist establishment supports and defends wage slavery, under communist principles we have gone against it, and devoted ourselves to relentless war against this slavery.
Throughout this entire debate you have proven you don't know a single thing you're talking about, you can't even get the basic definition of socialism and communism right when backed and proven clearly by Marxist writers, especially the creator of the ideology, Marx. So reply if you wish, however I no longer take you seriously in this debate, you can't be taken as such for you lack basic understanding of ideology, history, and political awareness.
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Please don't go full tankie at least be a ancom or something if you think the genocides caused within the USSR are merely "minor issues" of socialism turn light on how completely mad you are and shows how much communist propaganda has clouded your mind of any rational thought. This shows how much communism is like a religion in that in the same why a religions individual attempts to discredit someone with a degree in a science as knowing nothing simply because they have that degree and they themselves know more because they are part of that religion you do the same thing in which you discredit formal economic education simply because you are part of an irrational ideology that says such education is inherently invalid. Communism has been attempted numerous times although it has never come about because it can never come about due to the inherently contradictions within itself. Aside from the more obvious failure of it being impossible to allocate resources effectivly on any macro level without any price mechanics. The show itself does perfectly show what happens when those will communist intent apply their philosophy to the real world. It become a totalitarian authoritarian state. But still shows fault with communism due so many attempts with the intent of communism failing. Saying the Soviet Union was not a real communism because it failed to bring a stateless classless, money less society is like saying the Aztec ritual killers were not real human sacrifices because they failed to bring rain. The fact it did not reach it's impossible demanded result does not mean that it was not an attempt at communism. Fuck your going to make me sound like a market fundamentalist Austrian economist now but they are right in that the term wage slavery is highly discrediting to anyone who as actually gone through real slavery and it is an insult to relate voluntary agreement to that of an coercion being applied to someone and the entire term is merely an emotional argument attempting to unjustly steal sympathy from those who the victims of slavery to be used to advocate communism. Such manipulation is extremely intellectually dishonest and further discredits your claim of intellectualism. Most if not all of those people you mentioned are not actually socialists but are merely mixed economist abdicates in the same way Bernie Sanders is not actually technically a socialist as democratic socialism is not giving the state power over the means of production so it is pretty dishonest that you would list those people as socialists when you should really no better as a Tankie. Anyway your right that this is pretty pointless thankfully the Marxist school of thought has been completely eradicated from the field of economics however instead I have to argue with so many of my colleges that are completely blinded by the opposite extreme ideology it is ridiculous how popular Austrian economics is right now. It is nice to argue with an actual communist instead of just be called one for not being a market fundamentalist lol. I look forward to watching communist pony get rekt in the season finally should be fun.
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There is so many falsehoods in this that I found it actually comical rather than a serious debate argument. You truly need to do research, because not only do you have no idea what you're saying, you're also using debunked myths. We're done with this debate, you're too incompetent to be taken seriously
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She's more of a cult leader, in all honesty. Something akin to Scientology.
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I agree, in some aspects, she is like a cult leader of extremist egalitarianism
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I expected such a comment from the fascist, the supporter of the big bourgeoisie of a decaying capitalist system that survived off theft and abuse of the working class on a giant scale and imperialist war against other nations.
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>someone disagrees with you
>OH MY GOD YOU'RE A FASCIST BIG BUSINESS SUPPORTER OF A DYING SYSTEM THAT CAUSED THE DEATHS OF MILLIONS
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She's more of a equalist (egalitarianism), in her own way.
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Somewhat, however she is more of a cult leader of extremist egalitarianism
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Been wanting to make this for a while ever since the starlight glimmer hype that created the "she's a communist" rumor
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Indeed.
It got me to the point I wanted to strangle them...
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Atleast I'm not alone.
Germany(Ebon my oc) : Is she gone?
*Sigh.* Yes Ebon.
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