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mikeykitty123 [2017-03-22 17:19:42 +0000 UTC]
Dave? Michael? Who cares. He's purple and he's awesome.
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-24 15:34:22 +0000 UTC]
Proof? Remember, the novel isn't supposed to connect with the games, except for Sister Location, so don't bring up "Pink Guy".
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-24 22:08:46 +0000 UTC]
What do you mean proof? Dude, this is literally fanart i did of Dave/William from the novel. The sketches up there are scenes from the novel
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SweetarttheFox21 [2017-02-05 17:55:30 +0000 UTC]
"What kind of name for a serial killer is Dave?" I cracked up so hard when I read this part.
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Bugbreach In reply to SweetarttheFox21 [2017-02-06 08:41:12 +0000 UTC]
Pff yeah, when i read this i immediately went on skype to tell my friend which was like "OH MY GOD! CARLTON IS A SASSY FUCK HOLY FUCK HE COULD DIE ANY SECOND AND HE WAS JUST LIKE what kind of name for a serial killer is dave BOY YOU GUNNA DIE BUT YO SASS WILL LIVE ON!!
What a magical moment
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DSeven-Archive [2017-01-07 10:18:06 +0000 UTC]
I NEED THAT BOOK!!!!!!!!!
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nerdygamer7896 [2017-01-04 00:02:29 +0000 UTC]
agreed.*sips tea along side you*
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nerdygamer7896 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-01-04 16:22:08 +0000 UTC]
Fabulous
*strokes Β non-existent mustache*
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5iveAM [2017-01-03 13:13:21 +0000 UTC]
i liiiike Dave
friggen creepy and he needs a nap
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Bugbreach In reply to 5iveAM [2017-01-03 14:12:40 +0000 UTC]
LET HIM REST- oh wait-Β Β
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-22 17:20:35 +0000 UTC]
I don't think he's going to rest until he finds his father.Β
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-24 10:22:41 +0000 UTC]
I don't think he'll be able to find his father- since- ya know... he's the father
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-24 15:35:36 +0000 UTC]
William isn't the killer then. It's either one or the other. Choose.
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-24 22:22:00 +0000 UTC]
Games: William Afton - Stuck in Springtrap, Michael Afton - killed by Ennard/Ennard inside of him(not canon probably) Β Β Β Β Β Β Silver Eyes: William Afton = Dave Miller = Springtrap.
Like- you seem to know that Dave is from the Novel and if you read the novel it should be obvious that this here is Silver eyes fanart. I really don't understand what you're trying to say in your comments
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-25 15:01:45 +0000 UTC]
Here's my counter argument:
1.We hear Michael's voice with Springtrap.
2.Ennard says "You won't die" repeatedly, and Michael awakens.
3.Michael says: "I should be dead, but I'm not".
4.If Michael is talking to Springtrap, we never see Michael in that scene.
5.Michael turning purple when Ennard's inside of him.Β
6.Dave surviving a springlock incident, even though he should die but he's still alive which is impossible.
7.Dave having pale, lifeless eyes.
8.Dave saying he's a animatronic: "Because, I am one of them."
9.Michael saying: "They didn't recognize me at first but, they thought I was you."Β
10.Charlie and her friends thought Dave is William.
11.Dave saying: "All there's left is family".
12.Dave's eyes resemble that of the animatronics.
13.Both Michael and Dave are hunched over and both share wide grins.
14.Novel taking place in a alternate universe, and Scott saying that the novel is only half-canon.
15.Both the games and the novel have the same outcome but different events leading up to it.
So Michael didn't die with Ennard. Springtrap calling himself "Michael". Dave's description resembles Michael. Michael saying that people thought he was his father. Dave having animatronic eyes, just like Michael. Dave being immortal, along with Michael also being immortal.Β
Both look alike.
Both have similar history's.
Both characters' dialogue connect with one another.
Both cannot die by normal means.
Both become Springtrap.
Both are the same exact person.Β
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-26 00:27:09 +0000 UTC]
okay, seriously wtf, you are taking this so far? Again, my art here is just fanart of the novel so all the game stuff is irrelevant anyways, BUT imma pick some of the things out cause - jesus mate, what are you doing.
1. We hear Michael's voice with Springtrap.
Yeaaah, we also hear michael's voice with a burned down fazbears fright. That has nothing to say. Especially in this context it would fit in the way of we saw michael die by ennard forcing himself into him which lead his body to rot n all (which is why he turns purple and the people getting scared) but then even when ennard left the body he stood right up and didn't die like baby (probably) said. Why? who knows. So Michael talks about/to his father - William. Who then is shown which makes sense. It's like in animes when character A talks about character B who is somewhere else and they show character B. It's just a thing. Now this entire Sister Location DLC supposedly isn't even canon for the game universe so all that doesn't matter anyways.
6. Dave surving a springlock incident, even though he should die but he's still alive which is impossible.
i think you are referring to him having the scars? Well this has been weird, i admit, but the scars don't have to be from being torn to shreds by a springlock suit. It could also just be from another suit or maybe he had an accident with one of the suits while taking it off and he just got cuts but was quick enough with throwing the suit off of him so that he survived it. Also thinking back to what's been said that he used to be fat - and he used the same kind of suit it really could be possible that the cuts are not from an accident but just his skin being scratched by the locks over and over again. Β If you count his response to carltons "how do you know this" Β - cause i've been thinking about that - Dave giving the vague answer could mean he had an accident himself Ooooor, what i believe is far more logical, is him refering to watching people die in it before.
8.Dave saying he's a animatronic: "Because, I am one of them."
Since Dave Obviously isn't quite the sane type of guy he could also be meaning, that he's one of the children, like he's a child himself. Which also would fit to his quirky personality that he adapts to when in the suit.
13.Both Michael and Dave are hunched over and both share wide grins.
This is absolutely pointless. Cause all you see from michael is a siluhette and a pixel version and Dave is only described in the book OR if you take game william as dave - then he too is just pixels. So that's not really a valid argument. Also, again, Dave/William is Michaels father so it would make sense that they look alike.
And to the last stuff AGAIN William and Michael look alike cause they are related. The animatronics mistake michael for william cause back in the days when william was younger he much likely looked a lot like michael does now.
Dave having animatronic eyes? I don't know how you get that idea since it's only said that he got big and empty eyes.
So basically the in game history of why William became springtrap - i don't really know right now, it's late and it's been a long time since i looked into the games.
But Michael being killed by ennard is just what happened. You can go ask scott,i think he even said it on steam or so because people were confused by the cut scene with springtrap so much.Β
AAAnnnd i don't know where you got the idea of Dave/william being immortal in the Novel, cause in the end of the novel he dies and until the release of the second book we will not know if it stays that way or not.
But using the term immortality in the FNaF universe is a lil bit ... nah. I mean, c'mon. there are posessed animatronics, ghosts. This universe is a big ol mess as it is
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-27 14:46:04 +0000 UTC]
Aren't you the who who is taking things way too far? All I said was Purple Guy was cool and called him by what he is called in the games and you called me out on it, saying I am wrong so I made a counter-argument filled with proof and yet you're saying I have gone too far? Something tells me you didn't play the games AT ALL.
In the games Michael is Purple Guy/the killer but you claim that it is William all along, even though there are actual evidence against you and yet you deny this. Why?
I am going by the games' universe and lore because the games is what the novel is based off and the novel is considered a adaptation of the games.
Also, FNAF is NOT a anime. I am SICK of people treating it like it is. FNAF isn't even from JAPAN. It is made by a American game designer. I am going by how the lore works and use evidence supporting my theories/claims without cherry-picking. Your picture is cool and all, but it seems that you don't even pay attention towards the series and only go by what you want and what you think. You might as well act like the games didn't even EXIST, which is like saying a guy thinks he knows everything about Mickey Mouse but ignore's the fact about Steamboat Willy technically isn't the first Mickey Mouse cartoon ever made. I actually pay CLOSE attention towards the original source material, unlike SOME people("Matpat").
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-27 18:50:30 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, no. You're definetly the one who is taking things too far.Β
First, no, i did not play the games, i only watched Let's plays of it cause after failing at the demos i didn't want to waste my money on games i suck at.Β
I didn't intend to call you out on anything. All i did was correct you, because it appeared (by your first comment) that you were referring to dave as michael.
You are the one who started talking about the games even though this fanart here is of the novel. I didn't give a thought about the games when reading the novel and while drawing this - because, ay you said, they play in different universes. So This art here and all i was saying had nothing to do with the games AT ALL. End of story.
I didn't say michael is purple guy, i didn't say william is purple guy, i didn't say anyone was anyone. I didn't say michael wasn't the killer but i also didn't say he was the killer.
All i said was that Michael is Williams son. That's it.
Now, what i don't get is why you're coming at me with anime? Β "It's like in animes when character A talks about character B who is somewhere else and they show character B." I wasn't saying FNAF is an anime or like an anime. I was talking about a type of visualisation. I could've used ANY comparisation (Movie, wester-cartoon, etc.) i just used anime cause it was the first coming to my mind. Believe me, the last thing i wanna do is turn fnaf into an anime, dear lord.Β
I don't understand why you're making such a big thing out of all of this, and if you still believe i am the one making such a big fuzz out of it, go back into the comment section and look who started making these huge posts.
I didn't even really understand what you were trying to say with your comments which is why i just stated who's who and you went full on defensive mode because it didn't fit into your theory?Β
This is what i'm getting out of this and this is a perfect example why i hate the FNAF fandom.Β
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mikeykitty123 In reply to Bugbreach [2017-03-27 20:28:40 +0000 UTC]
Sorry. Please do not compare me to the fandom. Yes, I have a account on a fnaf wikia site, which is technically a fandom site, but even I have a bad reputation there because of my theories. People get upset at me because I have this habit of calling people out for using false information or relying too much on the games to prove my theories, but unlike Matpat, the guy who makes theories for a living, I do not cherry-pick details that support my theory, mostly because the only things that go against my theories are people who make stuff up that has much more evidence against it than evidence supporting it. I am aware that people still think William is the killer, which was thrown out of the window when Michael's ending speech is heard. But yet the fans hate me because I think Michael is the killer. I did meet people who share the same exact theory as mine, but I am not bragging here. My theories aren't perfect, but every theory has its flaws. You can still think William is the killer, but I am going through the series from my point of view. Unless that is wrong and that I should think like everyone else. But if I have to hear people saying Pink Guy and Purple Guy are two different characters, I swear I want to find that person and knock some sense into him/her. Either Pink Guy is Purple Guy, or Pink Guy is another version of Purple Guy. They can't be two different characters, or else Sister Location shouldn't need to exist. Which it does. So either Purple Guy/Pink Guy is William, or Michael. They are not different since Pink Guy has a purple car and Pink Guy is actually a lighter shade of purple, which is not pink at all.
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Bugbreach In reply to mikeykitty123 [2017-03-27 21:20:07 +0000 UTC]
Dude, seriously i don't give a shiiiit about any of this.
I know that most of the fandom's just a pile of lil kids yelling at each other because of their weird headcanons and that's it.
I have absolutely no idea who Matpat is and i don't wanna know, and you shouldn't complain about them Cherry-picking details when you threw a 15 point list at me with your so called "evidence".
I don't think people hate you or are annoyed at you for what you think is right.Β
The problem here is that you are doing exactly what you're complaining about. You take whatever you think fits to your theory and use it as proof that your theory is the right one. I don't even know if you realize that you're doing it but you certainly are. And just to avoid any more rants, i am not saying that your theory is wrong but it's very likely not right either. Scott has put so much story into his games which he then declared not being true/being a dream/not canon that it's almost impossible Β to say what's going on anymore.
If people think Mike Schmidt is the killer, it's fine. If people think William Afton is the killer, that's fine too.
There is no point in arguing about these things cause people have their own theories and they won't take shit from anyone saying anything against it.
Little advice from my side, just let it go. I got death threats from an 8 year old cause i said that my human puppet version, which doesn't have anything to do with fnaf, is crazy.
Absolute bullshit, but there's no use in trying to explain anything to anyone.Β
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