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Chalaya In reply to ??? [2014-10-15 03:33:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! I think I was disappointed with this piece because it didn't really turn out to look like the original sketch, which I think was much better. I traced my sketch onto fresh paper for coloring because the original was so messy but something was lost in the transfer. It was still fun to do nonetheless. I'm glad you like it. The wings were a challenge for me in both drawing and coloring them. I think you will learn to do hair if you keep trying. You're a very talented artist so don't sell yourself short! I'm so very thankful for this wonderful comment you left me. Yes, that is the sky. I tried a different color than blue just to be creative. Oh just to let you know, I've been working on coloring your Emma Frost lineart! It's taking me a very long time because I've been so busy, but I didn't forget!

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BloodTalonHero In reply to Chalaya [2014-10-20 08:16:57 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome. Yes, I can understand. Tracing or inking sometimes turns out different. It may not look like the original but it still looks good. Take your time with my lineart. I know life can be a busy thing. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Chalaya In reply to BloodTalonHero [2014-10-20 12:48:40 +0000 UTC]

I have since tried my best to avoid having to transfer a drawing by tracing it. I either try to be really careful with erasing or to not make any of the little details onto the sketch. So far that's worked pretty well. Thank you for understanding! I've definitely had my hands full but I'll try to finish it soon.

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BloodTalonHero In reply to Chalaya [2014-10-20 15:46:50 +0000 UTC]

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Chalaya In reply to BIGBOY2480 [2013-10-21 20:49:46 +0000 UTC]

I appreciate the comment! I like the colors on this one too.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-06-25 14:23:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the wonderful comment! As usual, I'm taken aback by how much thought you put into these. It really means a lot to me! I'm not sure why this one didn't turn up in your inbox. I've had that happen to me in my inbox before too though. I'm always finding art in the galleries of those I watch that I didn't see in my inbox. In any case I'm so glad you decided to take the time to seek this one out. Though I'm not as happy with it as I hoped to be, I still think it turned out pretty nicely and this comment definitely helped me to see the positive aspects of it. I plan to do more angels in the future. I'd love to do a dark-skinned angel with golden wings. I think that would be striking. After my mermaid pic though. That is currently in progress since I finally got a sketch on paper that I can work with.

I'm really glad you enjoyed the wings. I wouldn't exactly call myself an expert at it, but I did better than I thought I would. (by the way, you do wings a lot better than you think you do too ) Those little feathers at the top were definitely the most tedious part of the picture. I had to really force myself not to rush. The softness is really in the shading. My problem with coloring things that are white is that I'm usually scared to put much shading to it for fear that it won't look white anymore, but I gathered some courage and used several different shades of blue instead of grey to shade these wings and I really like the way they turned out. Thanks for noticing that I did my own thing with the girl as well. That is one thing I deliberately try to do with each picture. One thing I'm constantly looking for is quality stock that's either nude or sports as little clothing as possible. This serves two purposes. One, I can see the anatomy and draw more accurately. Two, it allows my imagination to take over be more creative. So it means a lot that you pointed that out! I do try to change the face and draw my own character and not copy the photo exactly. That's the fun part, taking a photo and making something totally different out of it. Although I do hope to one day be able to draw from imagination completely without having to look at refs. I'm pretty happy with the dress too. I made it off the shoulder because I really loved the pose ref, and the lady's shoulders and back are so beautiful that I wanted to display that in my own drawing. I did the purple background to match the dress b/c I watched a video on youtube once that said if you do background colors to match at least one part of the subject, it actually draws the eye in toward the subject instead of distracting from it. I find that it's a good trick. I'm glad you like the flowers in her hair. When I finished the sketch I felt it was too simple and I thought adding flowers in her hair would be a good way to add some more detail. It worked pretty well, and the different types of flowers allowed me to add more color. Thanks for the comments on the hair itself. I try to improve with every piece that I do, and though this isn't the best hair I've done, I still think it's pretty.

Thanks again for the wonderful comment and encouragement, and also for adding it to your faves. I've seen your faves and you've got impeccable taste, so when a piece of mine makes it to your faves, I'm quite honored. I also really got to pay attention to the good aspects of this drawing which made me glad I posted it. As for what you said about the faves thing, don't worry about me when it comes to that. I'd rather have comments like this one, and the others I get from my true friends who take the time to look at my art, than all the hundreds of fave-and-run that those other people get. I feel very blessed!

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-06-25 18:28:29 +0000 UTC]

In general, I look for the art by the people I watch while going through my inbox but sometimes it gets buried amongst the stuff that comes in via the groups which I'm a little more... casual with. Even though I watch you, I find I tend to miss your stuff. It's weird. I guess I just have to casually check your gallery every now and then to check up on the status of things. I do always get your journals though.

I'll bet you're not in a big hurry to do another angel anytime soon, huh? Yeah, I can imagine how tedious those little parts must have been but you chugged through it. You certainly have more patience that I do. I could draw each individual feather to draw more effective wings but I don't have the patience for that. I'm always looking for shortcuts. I'm bad. I've always wondered about white. It does seem like one of the weirder colours to really get done effectively especially if you're working on a white sheet of paper. However, I think you've got it down to a science. You know how to do it quite well. You're smart to work with stock that is either nude or form-fitted because of the reasons you stated. Sometimes when you find poses that are clothed, you're trapped to the clothing because otherwise you risk attempting to draw a bodypart and screwing up because you couldn't see it in the original reference picture. I do like the fashion you've got going on here. It's very pretty. So bravo, really. I'm not big on backgrounds... but I agree with that video. You want to pull out colours from your piece because it'll complement it nicely. When I do pieces that don't involve photographic backgrounds, I try to pick out a similar shade to something the character is wearing.

Aw thanks! Yeah, I think I'm kind of the same way. It can be weird when you get tons of favs but hardly any comments. It doesn't tell you why people have faved a piece. It's also sucky when you get few favs and generic comments. XD It does seem like you get a few more usable comments than I do though.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-06-28 17:59:51 +0000 UTC]

I'm the same way with my inbox. I try to look through the groups as best I can, but there's just too much to go through it all. Usually the way I comment is that I take the last piece I posted myself and see who commented on that. Then I'll go to those deviants pages and comment on their art first b/c I want to make sure and return the appreciation. Then I'll go to the other people I watch and comment there and if I have time, I'll leaf through the groups. It seems like that's a pretty fair way to go about it, giving priority to those who take the time to comment on my stuff. If you like, I can link you my new pieces. I don't post that often so it won't flood your inbox and it'll save you from having to go back and forth and check my page. I don't mind doing that if you'd like me too. Or if you'd rather just check it at your leisure, that's totally fine too. Just know that if I link something to you and you don't feel particularly inspired to comment on it, I won't be sitting there expecting you to comment on every single piece. I can't comment on all your pieces, so I would hardly expect you to comment on every single one of mine. So no pressure if you'd like to to send you links. I do appreciate that you read my journals! Journals are easier to see I think because they're not so numerous and clumped together.

I'll probably draw a few other things before I tackle another angel. Those wings get me. It's hard to draw individual feathers so I don't blame you for using shortcuts. I think I'm just crazy. I always draw small details and when coloring time comes I'm like "why did I do that?". I'd like to improve my whites. I think I'm better at it than I was, but there's always room for improvement. It's a very tricky. The stock thing is tricky too. There is tons of stock on here but some of it is geared for photo manipulations rather than drawing practice and I'm learning to tell the difference. Those who post stock with elaborate costumes are providing for photo manipulators, whereas those who do nudes or simple form fitting clothes are catering to those interested in drawing anatomy. It can be difficult to find quality nude stock on here. There are so many who think that taking naked pictures in poorly lit rooms using their iphone produces usable stock which is not the case. But there are several jewels on here too. You just have to do a little digging. I hate backgrounds! You'll notice that most of my pieces have simple backgrounds where the coloring quality takes a plummet. I wish I were more patient.

You're welcome! I think I was just lucky enough to meet good friends on here who are seriously interested in artwork. Really, I think it's pure luck on my part because I showed you Fairylover's gallery. Her art puts mine to shame and she doesn't get as many comments as I do. I'm just really lucky I guess. In your particular case, it seems to me that a lot of people who seek out comic book art are those pervs who are just hoping to catch pictures of scantily clad women. They're not like you. They don't truly appreciate the art for itself or the actual characters. I'll bet half of them don't even seriously read the books. I mean, I don't read the books either but I do like a very wide range of art and comic book art is included in that.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-06-28 20:24:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I check out your gallery every so often. I know I don't comment a lot or frequently but I should take the opportunity right now just to let you know that I have seen what you've posted and have seen the pieces at various times when I check out your gallery to look for updates. I think you've done a lot of great work and that you should be very proud of what you've done. Usually whenever I land on your page and see new stuff the general reaction is "Wow! That looks great!" So don't ever feel like if I don't comment right away that it means a piece wasn't good enough. If anything, if I don't comment just take it as it's so good I don't know what to say. That's the truth. I'm usually like "Oh gosh, I really need to devote time to this because this is great!"

It's good that you're detail-oriented. I admire that about your art. You will do things that I otherwise would have just given up on that. You have so much talent at the finicky little stuff and it really elevates your pieces to a great place. So good on ya!

You think so? Yeah, I suppose you and I attract different audiences. I imagine that many of the people you've encountered and who have commented on your stuff are moreso there for the art rather than the characters. That's pretty much what I find is the issue with my watchers at least. They're there for characters, not art.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-07-09 19:49:15 +0000 UTC]

Awww, that is so nice! I'm the same way with your new pieces though. I know I don't comment often on your work either but it's for the same reasons. I never want to short change you so when I do comment, it has to be when I have the time and concentration I need. I have to visit all my friends galleries quite often as well because for some reason new pieces don't always show up in my watch list. I think it's some kind of malfunction on my page. I've asked the help desk why deviations just disappear from my inbox but they can't figure it out either. I keep my inbox pretty clean too so it's not due to overcrowding. But anyway, I really do appreciate you visiting my gallery to check out my new stuff! That makes me feel really good!

Aw, thanks! Sometimes I don't think I'm detailed enough actually. I see all these pieces with intricate backgrounds and subjects with detailed clothing and hair styles and I envy the patience it takes to do that kind of thing. I hate backgrounds so most of my pieces have simple ones. I'm going to try and make more backgrounds though. In any case, I so appreciate the compliments. It's definitely a confidence boost!

I'm sure that your audience has a lot to do with the number of comments you get. And that's no fault of your own either. I know it's frustrating, believe me, but at least take comfort in the fact that it has nothing to do with your drawing skills. It just seems to me like a lot of the people who follow comic book art do it for the characters and the possibility of seeing some cleavage. *eyeroll* Not ALL comic book followers are like that, but a lot seem to be which is really sad because the art itself is excellent and needs to be more appreciated. I have faved lots of comic book characters whom I know nothing about, but I just like the artwork so much that I want to see it over and over again.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-07-12 17:34:08 +0000 UTC]

That's odd. I get a lot of overcrowding in my inbox. I'm in so many groups so that's why... XD

Pfft! Girl, your art is VERY detailed! Don't short change yourself. It's totally find to have simple backgrounds. Sometimes they're better than more elaborate ones since they can sometimes compete with the figures drawn in the pieces.

You're totally right about the character and cleavage thing. It is very sad and it can be discouraging that the number of favs often corresponds to how much cleavage is in a piece.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-07-14 23:55:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I know I tend to be extremely critical of my art, so that's good to know. I actually finished my mermaid sketch so it's ready for coloring. The funny thing is that I did a pretty detailed background for it so we'll see how that looks vs. my usual simple ones. I do hope that it compliments the mermaid rather than competes with her. It's difficult to tell in the sketch. I don't think I'll know for sure until I color it.

I totally understand that. I'm pretty discouraged when that happens too. I think one of my most faved pieces is a request piece I did that features a bikini. It's one of the only pieces in my gallery that still gets faves despite the fact that it's relatively old. Meanwhile, my newer, better pieces stopped getting faves after the first week of being posted. It's funny how that works.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-07-17 18:57:23 +0000 UTC]

I'll be sure to tell you how well the background works then! I look forward to seeing this mermaid of yours.

Really? It's kind of sad that it has to happen to you as well but I suppose it really speaks to the demographic on deviantART. I think I've grown very cynical about the audience here so I'm always criticizing it in terms of the way in which people seem to view deviantART as a source of sexual arousal rather than viewing it as an online art gallery.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-08-01 02:37:39 +0000 UTC]

I do look forward to the feedback whenever I finally am able to finish her. She's all ready to color but I haven't even been able to start on it these last two weeks and I'm going out of town this Friday b/c we're having my son's birthday in my hometown. I soooooo want to work on my art more, but I guess I better get used to the lack of free time with the new baby coming. *sighs* Oh well, I'll finish it eventually.

Yeah, unfortunately it happens to me too. I daresay that it probably happens to a lot of artists on here. The demographic around here is extremely varied, but I think that a good portion of it probably does consists of those creepers looking for cheep thrills. I know that a few of my favorite stock providers are getting pretty fed up with their nude stock being constantly faved, but hardly used for it's intended purpose. There's even one lady who has restricted her nude photographs to artists only. I believe one has to request her nudes via note and there is a pretty rigorous check that she does of the person's page. If they have none of their own art in their gallery she won't give them access to her nudes, and I think there is some kind of verbal agreement where the person must promise to use her photos for artwork only. I completely understand and respect that. I suppose it's impossible to get some people to understand that these women aren't just putting up naked pictures of themselves for some pervert's sexual gratification. The photos are there for artists to use as references for studying the body and for making beautiful artwork, not to jerk off too. Sorry, I don't usually use that kind of language, but it just infuriates me the way some people are so disrespectful. It is very say indeed, that an art site is so misused.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-08-05 14:10:35 +0000 UTC]

I know how you feel. I started a new internship and it's kept me really busy so I haven't had as much time as I'd like to devote to my art... especially since I still have a stack of commissions to finish.

That's actually really creepy and really unfortunate. It's a shame we live in a society where the human body is coded in so many different ways. We live in such a complicated world and there are always going to be people who gross us out with their behaviour. It also seems like such a hassle to have to go through all those steps to weed out the weirdos. I probably wouldn't have the patience for it.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-08-12 16:21:12 +0000 UTC]

A new internship?! That sounds exciting! How are you liking it, aside from being really busy? As far as the art is concerned, I'm right there with you. I've still not started coloring my mermaid, and I also have to finish a hair coloring tutorial that I've been promising a few people on here so I have to do that first. So much to do!

It is very creepy and unfortunate indeed, and a true shame. I do feel so sorry for those stock providers since they do what they do for the benefit of serious artists. I wish that those perverts would just go to porn sites to get their jollies and stop ruining things for real artists around here. I'm a firm believer that there is a HUGE difference between porn and artistic nudity. Artistic nude is beautiful, tasteful and meant to inspire. It's not for cheap sexual gratification. Of course you already know this. I'm just ranting. Anyway, I'm going to be a bit upset if the stock providers start deciding to discontinue their work because of perverts. Not that I wouldn't understand their reasons for doing it, but it will still make me and a bunch of other artists very sad. Just yet another example of obnoxious and twisted people ruining things for the rest of us. But I'm sure it is a hassle to weed out the weirdos.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-08-15 19:57:35 +0000 UTC]

The new internship has been interesting. It's had a lot of ups and downs. Of course, for me it's mostly the periphery stuff that comes along with starting somewhere new and getting acquainted with a new group of people that mostly causes the stress. I've always felt that I can handle school and work on some level but when it comes to more personal, private things it tends to devastate me more so when it crosses over with work stuff it has a tendency to alert others to feeling like I'm somehow not handling work or something.

That's the weird thing. It's not like pornography is hard to come by. After all, the internet is ruled by cute cats and pornography so I don't particularly understand why people would try to make everywhere they go about porn. It's just odd to me. 

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-08-20 15:45:57 +0000 UTC]

I'm the exact same way actually. Doing the work is usually no problem for me. It's adjusting to a new group of people that is the difficult part. When I have trouble with that though, it tends to carry over in my work performance. It's strange how that works.

It is odd. The only thing I can figure is that porno sites are usually risky sites to visit, at least from what I've heard. They're rife with viruses and things of that nature. Sits like this are pretty safe and it's easy to find sexually based art on here. It's just that the people looking for that kind of thing don't have the sense or the courtesy to distinguish which pieces are artistic nudes and which ones are MADE for sexual arousal. If they would do that, none of us would have this problem.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-08-22 13:22:36 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, naturally drama occurs whether we want it to. Even though we all graduate from high school, we never really seem to be able to leave those dramatic tendencies behind. It's even more dangerous once work "romance" gets involved so to speak.

A lot of porn sites are pretty reputable and it's fairly easy to avoid viruses with a good antivirus. I also think it has to do with the fact that DA is free...

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-08-25 01:31:02 +0000 UTC]

I personally hate drama and try to avoid it at all costs. When I still worked a job before my son was born I'd always avoid getting in the middle of anything. All the people at work knew not to come to me when they wanted to complain about a co-worker. I'd cut them off before they got started. Wanted no part of that. Work is hard enough without all the juvenile garbage. The work romance thing is definitely a big nuisance, but I can't say much since my husband and I met at work. I will say that we were those rare people who knew not to bring that crap to work with us. I can't say that about the other couples that worked with us. When they were having a spat, the whole day was ruined.

Yeah, free is always a big attraction for people. The only problem is that porn art isn't supposed to be allowed here, so those people have to go lurking around artist's galleries with their inappropriate intentions towards the art. It's really depressing.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-08-26 23:35:56 +0000 UTC]

As I said previously, you're my conflict idol. You just know the right things to do and it would be nice to imagine myself being able to conform to the standards you hold yourself to. You're not wrong in your approach to workplace drama. It is actually really cute that you met your husband at work. That's always why I'm less weird about work romance than other people. I realize that love is a mysterious and unpredictable thing. You can't just close yourself off to it because of man-made rules or expectations. That's why I believe in always being open to it regardless of the opinions of others.

Exactly! You know, it truly is annoying how often I'll come across art that shouldn't be permitted on here. It depresses me also because that art will often get more attention than non-porn.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-08-29 15:59:50 +0000 UTC]

That's just so nice of you to say! Really, it's just been a lot of trial and error on my part, and over the years I've learned to read each particular situation and decide whether or not it's worth the headache of getting involved. Most of the time, it's not. Of course my friends and family all know that they can always come to me if they need help or a shoulder to cry on, but they all know my limitations. I just refuse to get in the middle of a useless argument that arises just for the sake of arguing. Usually things like that are petty and needless and I have no patience for that anymore. So really, experience is all that I can account for my stand on conflict. I think you're in your early 20's, am I right? You shouldn't get down on yourself for not always "holding yourself to those standards" with every situation. I wasn't able to at your age. Far from it, and though I'm not that much older than you, you'll be amazed at how differently you'll likely handle things when you reach 30. You've got an excellent head on your shoulders and you're the kind of person who learns from experience.

I've known lots of people that have met their other half at a job, and it can work out really well when the people are mature enough to handle it. You're certainly right in saying that people shouldn't close themselves off to the idea just because it's some "understood rule" because one risks missing out that way. I just think that people need to know themselves and what they can and cannot handle. I think that's the key to almost any situation we put ourselves in.

Oh definitely. And what kills me is that, half the time, that shady kind of art is done by people with very little skill, and yet it still gets more attention than it should. So art that isn't very good in quality will get more attention than good quality as long as it's got something sexual about it, or at least something that's perceived as sexual. I see it in my own gallery. For example, my latest drawing is one of the best I've ever done, and yet it's not gotten nearly as much attention as my very first drawing, which features a nude. You remember that one I'm sure. And in that first one, the girl isn't even showing any body parts, it's just hinted at that she is nude. However, that drawing is awful when compared to my latest drawing, and yet the old one trounces the new one in both comments and faves. I don't get it!

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-08-30 21:10:48 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I'm in my early 20s. I've said it before but I'm a work in progress. I'm always learning and adapting so it's a process of learning when to pick your battles. It also really comes down to who you can trust as well. I'm naturally a very trusting person and will believe what people tell me. Still, I'm having a harder time doing that because I'm finding liars and backstabbers at every turn at this point in my life. It's hard for me to understand why I'm surrounded by so many liars.

Knowing ourselves is key for sure! In a lot of ways I'm still very much "new" to the game of love in that I really haven't had very many relationships and much of my knowledge is based on observation of other people's relationships. It actually gives me a better perspective in some ways than those who have tunnel vision and are incapable of seeing outside of their own relationship. It's very telling.

In terms of your new drawing and the old, I think you just have to give it time. Sometimes favs take time to accumulate and I've had to learn to be more patient with it. That said, I do find that the majority of favs happen within the first week of a drawing being posted. I will say it's nice that the old one gets the kind of comments and favs that it gets. I really do love your new one. Of course, it doesn't fail... I hadn't actually seen it until you mentioned it. I think I need to go back to checking your gallery every now and then. I don't think I've done so lately because I've assumed that you've been too busy for art. Pregnancy and all.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-09-04 11:13:28 +0000 UTC]

I think we're all surrounded by liars and backstabbers from the moment we hit adolescence. I've dealt with that thing quite a few times myself. I've been burned by my own family. I've had "private" conversations with them only to turn around and find out that they blabbed it to someone at some point. It's a difficult realization to come to. I use to be really trusting but, as much as I hate to say it, I've learned to be VERY selective in what I tell certain people. Unless I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person I'm talking to is trust-worthy, I will keep a strict lasso on what I converse with them about. Besides, I'm still a work in progress myself. Every person should be a work on progress until the day we stop breathing. Otherwise, you get those kinds of stubborn people who refuse to learn from anything. That's never good.

That may be the best way to go. I had very few relationships before I married my husband. In fact, only 2. And out of those, only one that lasted for more than two weeks. Not everyone has to date a million people to find what they want out of a relationship. But you're absolutely right. Sometimes the best way to learn is to observe others. I did a lot of that myself as well.

That's what noticed about most things I post. They're probably going to get the most attention while they're still new. What really kills me is that my new one is one that I figured would get at least a lot of faves, but for some reason it's just not doing as well as I thought it would. I guess that's the way it goes. The one's that you think will do well just don't for some reason. Oh well, it is what it is. Anyway, I'm glad you got to see the new one. I'm actually in a place right now where I have more time than I used to for art, with my son in school and all. The pregnancy doesn't really affect me in that area. It's after the baby is born that my art will probably take a hit, but I'm not going to quite altogether. I'll just have to squeeze it in when I have the time. But I'm going to take advantage of it while I can. I'm almost done coloring my mermaid!    

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-09-07 14:43:42 +0000 UTC]

I'd say we're surrounded by liars and backstabbers even earlier than adolescence. I had to deal with people like that from a very young age. I think to some extent the adults around us are always lying when we're children and most of the time it's out of omission. After all, sometimes omitting information is the same as lying as it can be just as devastating. I had that happen to me recently. That sucks that some of your private conversations have been aired out by people you thought you could trust. We've all been there. I'm not as selective as I should be but I do find that the people I tell are distant from the situations I get into. In other words, they rarely ever know the people I tell them about and there's no way of that information getting back to said people. I guess that's what happens when you don't really have a close group of friends.

I'm in a weird place right now with love and relationships. It's just not a good scene.

It's strange, isn't it? deviantART is very unpredictable when it comes to favs and comments. Works you think will do well end up flopping and then works you're not too crazy about end up becoming really successful. It's strange, really. 

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-09-12 19:12:46 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that is true. I only said adolescence because it seems to be when we become consciously aware of it. Of course that can happen earlier than adolescence. It depends on how sheltered a child is growing up. As far as omission is concerned when you have adults dealing with small children, I wouldn't say that it is lying. Adults sometimes keep serious things from children because they are often too young to understand it or do anything about it. But again, it depends on how young the child is and that's a tricky thing. Omitting things from young adults is another matter altogether. Yeah, I've had people duck behind my back and tell about my private conversations before. Unfortunately, it's been done by family more than anything else. I think it's actually wise for you to keep those conversations among people who are far from the situation. I've practiced that myself and it's done me well. I don't really have a huge network of close friends, but I have a few and if anything arises within that group, I stay the heck away because I don't want what I say getting around. Not that I make it a practice of saying too many things I don't want repeated, but you know how people will twist and embellish things to make it more "juicy". It's a bad habit that a lot of people have.

You're in a weird place now? Need to talk about it?

It is strange. Very strange. Who knows why it is the way it is. I think the reason my mermaid piece is so popular is because it's a theme focused piece. Much like fanart. You have your people who just like mermaids and will fave any mermaid they come across. Not that I don't appreciate the attention, but you know what I'm saying. It has less to do with the art and more to do with the subject matter. Know what I mean?

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-09-13 22:18:06 +0000 UTC]

People make a habit of "omitting" things because they're afraid someone can't handle it or they're afraid of hurting them. I've been on the receiving end of that so many times and it's always really hurtful. That's why I feel people should always be upfront and honest. No omission. It's also really bad when people add or change things in stories to make it more "juicy." It's really not good. The scary thing is that I have no clue if things I tell people are being repeated because it rarely gets repeated back to me so for all I know there could be all these stories circulating that I'm unaware of.

Yeah, I'm in a weird place. But DA comments aren't really the place to talk about it.

True. Mermaids are "in demand" so to speak. But I think people are still picky about them. My Mermista piece isn't exactly one of my more popular works.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-09-15 16:03:55 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm not saying that omission is a good thing when it comes to adults or even adolescents. For example, I don't tell my five year old about every problem that arises because he wouldn't understand them there would be no point. It's a tricky thing for all parents because there is a fine line there. When your child is old enough to be told certain things is a difficult call. But no, omission under any other circumstances is never good. It is another form of being dishonest and is very hurtful to the person on the receiving end. No it's never good when someone exaggerates something they hear. I don't understand the need for that. I guess people just want to be the one to tell the juiciest story and they don't think about the consequences. It is hard to know whether or not people are keeping your conversations private. I have had people whom I trusted do that to me before. There are few people whom I absolutely trust these days to keep certain things to themselves and I never deviate from those people when it comes to things I want kept private. It's a real shame that even among our friends and family we have to be so careful, but I suppose the temptation to blab is just too much for some people.

Of course I understand. You can always note me if you feel the need to talk about something. I'm not one of those people mentioned above. That's only if you want too though. I'm not one to pry because I'm not nosy. Just letting you know my door is open.

Some people are picky about them. Your Mermista piece is probably not as popular as it should be because like we talked about before, your fan base on here isn't probably the type who are interested in mermaids. My mermaid piece got so many faves because I submitted it to like 8 or 9 mermaid groups and then some fantasy groups on top of that.  

   

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-09-17 23:08:03 +0000 UTC]

You're right, some things aren't looked at as "omission" from certain ages. Children don't have the same understanding or vocabulary that adults do to understand things. It's a different level there. So it's not like they need to know every single problem that an adult may face. However, it is important to explain as much to them as possible if it will affect them in some way. I do think that there should be more discussions about the status of parental relationships with kids. If and when a relationship implodes, it comes as a total shock to the child and it blindsides them to a point where they're left severely damaged because they weren't ever made part of the communication equation. In terms of the trust thing, it's hard to trust people sometimes. I'm even not sure how much I should be trusted sometimes. I can be a bit of a blabbermouth but I keep the important things secret. 

Thanks. I appreciate it. I'll think about it.

I guess that's true to some extent. I just think DA is an odd entity.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-09-18 04:22:38 +0000 UTC]

I definitely agree. Children should be made aware of things that will affect them. I actually recently had that struggle myself concerning when to tell my son about the new baby. With the baby that I lost, I had made the choice not to tell him right away. My intentions were to wait until after those first volatile few months and I ended up being very glad that I did. After the miscarriage I was relieved that I didn't have to explain to my then, 4-year-old why he wasn't getting a brother or sister anymore. This time I did the same and after I knew that things would likely be okay, I told him about it. It would have been totally wrong if I just didn't tell him at all, and then all of a sudden there's a baby in the house. When it comes to young kids, it's really about making a judgement call and also knowing how to explain things in a way that they can grasp and understand.

Trust is a very tricky thing. On the one hand we probably should never talk about things that we discussed with other people. We're all guilty of that though. Sometimes I get carried away myself. That's why anytime someone is discussing private subjects with another person, they should always make it clear that they want that conversation to remain private. As I said, sometimes I can say a bit more than I mean too, but if someone makes it a point of telling me not to say anything, I know for sure to keep my mouth shut. It's one of those situations that people should always think about before they speak. If there is any doubt in their mind at all about whether they should or shouldn't say something, the best thing to do is just not say it. The bad thing about it is that most people just don't think things through. That's what I've dealt with most of the time.

You're always welcome.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-09-21 15:21:25 +0000 UTC]

That's actually a really good example and it does seem like you made the right choice. I agree with you on the judgement call aspect. It's all about knowing how to explain things to them so they're able to understand it. After all, they don't have the same experience we do as adults.

Totally! I'm pretty good with keeping my mouth shut if people tell me not to tell anyone. However, I'm not ALWAYS good at it since I'll tell someone really close who I can trust.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-09-28 17:30:15 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. With young kids it's all about knowing the right words and pairing them with the right moment. It's not right to keep things from them entirely but some omission is necessary sometimes to make sure they're not traumatized by what they're hearing.

LOL! Well, I think everyone has done that at some point. I'm better at it now that I'm older, but when I was a teen, the temptation to spill the beans was really difficult to overcome.

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Femmes-Fatales In reply to Chalaya [2013-10-01 17:07:08 +0000 UTC]

I'll be curious to see how I'll handle those situations if/when I have kids.

Yeah.... I'm slowly getting better at not spilling the beans.

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Chalaya In reply to Femmes-Fatales [2013-10-01 17:30:33 +0000 UTC]

You'll do just fine.

That tends to happen as we get older. For most people anyway. We just tend to have less interest in talking about other people because the older we get the more junk piles up on our own plates.

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Chalaya In reply to JadeDragonne [2013-06-17 04:18:30 +0000 UTC]

Aw, thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate the kind words. You really encouraged me with this piece. The hair is my favorite part too! Thanks again so much. Now that I'm back in town I can't wait to see what's new in your gorgeous gallery!!

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JadeDragonne In reply to Chalaya [2013-06-21 21:04:49 +0000 UTC]

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Chalaya In reply to Tanis711 [2013-06-07 14:25:14 +0000 UTC]

LOL! Yeah, I'm pretty tough on my art. Sometimes things just don't come out like you envision them, know what I mean? But this is growing on me. I usually have to look at it a few days before I start noticing what's good about it. Anyway, thank you so much for the wonderful comment and the fave! I'm so glad you like her! I was actually pretty pleased with her wings and the hair. Thanks again. I love you feedback!

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Tanis711 In reply to Chalaya [2013-06-24 02:05:29 +0000 UTC]

don't worry, we all get like that on our artwork, it's just what we do! you're welcome for the comment and fave Cassie!

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Chalaya In reply to Tanis711 [2013-06-24 16:50:06 +0000 UTC]

That's very true! I don't think I've met any artist yet who doesn't get frustrated now and then.

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Tanis711 In reply to Chalaya [2013-07-06 20:02:00 +0000 UTC]

so true! me neither!

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Chalaya In reply to Kniggets-Could-Have [2013-06-06 00:13:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback!

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Chalaya In reply to Elythe [2013-06-05 20:21:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the fabulous comment! I really like what you did with this in photoshop! It really made the colors look bold! It's a great take on the piece for sure. I myself was trying to make it look as much like the original as possible. I used very soft colors for it and I just couldn't get that look without it looking washed out. I do really like what you did though! Thank you so much for noticing all the details as well! I really worked hard on the wings and made sure that I took my time on the flowers so it's nice to see that people are noticing them! I really like that pose too. I have to give that credit to the stock provider I used but the picture really fit the pose I think! I'm surprised I was able to do that well with the hands, lol! I'm so glad you like this piece. I'm going to try to be more active with my artwork from now on so I'll look forward to the wonderful feedback! Thanks for faving her too!

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Chalaya In reply to BlackSilkRedLeather [2013-06-05 16:34:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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