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Description Edit: Changed back the mane. I will use those colors until I have a palette that will satisfy me.
There's also the fact that those colours are way to similar to Neon's.

Name: Apple Cider
Nicknames: Cider, AC, Cowboy, Farmer
Gender: Male
Species: Earth pony
Parents: Flim Skim and Applejack
Special Talent: Cider making (and handling business)
Personality: Strong, energic, strong-willed and stubborn, etc.

Bio:
Maybe Apple Cider didn't inherited a lot of physical traits from his father, but when you get to know him, you can definitely see Flim Skim through him. He's strong-willed, energic but calm and an incredible singer and salespony. Cider is a daddy's boy and has a really great mother-son relationship with Applejack. He always works hard, bucks and sells apples (and cider) like a pro, and never gives up.
Apple Cider is a wise stallion, who knows how to stop before doing something he would regret, and always think about the negative and positive impacts of his actions. He is, in fact, surprisingly the wise one in his group: he's the one who tell the others that they are about to do something incredibly stupid. But no one really listens to him, a shame since he's generally right.

Oh. And, unlike his mother, he can lie, and he's good. But he doesn't enjoy lying.

Background:
It was a shock for the Apple family to find the bad-looking Flim Flam brothers on their farm on a Sunday morning of summer. The business had been rough for the two of them lately and had nowhere to live, due of the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 being sold to buy food. As the generous and kind mare she was, Granny Smith offered them to stay for a while, at the horror of her grandchildren, especially Applejack. The twins gladly accepted, and offered their sincere apologies to the family.

However, the Apple siblings finally gave in and forgave the twins. Applejack was really reticent at first, but finally agreed to give them a chance. And it paid, because once she got to know them, AJ was surprised to see how well they got along. Especially with Flim, with whom she developed a special chemistry. However, their friendship started to mutate in something else.

It all started when she got attacked and badly injured by a small pack of Timberwolves on her way back from Zecora's. She was incredibly lucky that Flim was with her. He killed two of them and the others ran off. He then put the unconscious mare on his back and got her back to Sweet Apple Acres, where he took care of her while her recovery. He was there at her sides most of the day and did all her chores for her. And all this care and attention woke in her feelings that she didn't know she had for him. Finally, when she was back on her hooves, and after some little events, they finally and officially started dating. They got married 2 years later, and got two children.
    
Fun Facts:
- When he was younger, in his first years, Apple Cider categorically refused to eat apple-related meals. (credit to kilala97  for fun fact idea)
- He wakes up really early in the morning.
- He shares a surprisingly strong bond with Winona, Applejack's dog.
- Unlike his mother, he can lie. And he's good. But he doesn't especially like lying. 
- He is, like his father and his uncle, an incredible singer. He is part of the second generation of the Ponytones.





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*Bio was inspired by Faith-Wolff, as well as the information "categories". Thanks!*

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Comments: 20

suntwilig [2016-06-07 19:12:56 +0000 UTC]

looks super!

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Pugoii [2016-06-06 21:17:54 +0000 UTC]

AHHH YES

I LOVE these colors <333

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to Pugoii [2016-06-06 23:36:29 +0000 UTC]

I also love them a lot xD

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adgerellipone [2016-05-23 02:03:50 +0000 UTC]

To be honest I like this new redesign. I didn't see AppleDash in him at all xD; if you want him to be more unique only thing I can suggest is a different coat color?? I dunno haha. 

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Shelbi-Cat [2016-05-20 18:07:40 +0000 UTC]

He looks more like a AppleDash kid in my opinion

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to Shelbi-Cat [2016-05-20 19:04:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure about the colours yet

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Shelbi-Cat In reply to Cheschire-Kaat [2016-05-20 23:03:57 +0000 UTC]

Maybe you can change the colors of the mane?

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Pugoii [2016-05-20 17:29:24 +0000 UTC]

Hmm..the colors seem a little off to me. Maybe its because there's a lot of red? I'm not sure. Hmm.. I can't really describe my suggestion but ahhh, maybe I could draw it out if I have the time. But I really like this one tho:   The hairstyle and colors are gorgeous and everything looks very even to me.

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to Pugoii [2016-05-20 19:01:00 +0000 UTC]

I don't really think I'm done with the redesign. There IS something... off with the colours, but I can't tell what it is. I need to think about it.

I liked the previous design a lot too, but I seriously can't see Flim in it.

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Pugoii In reply to Cheschire-Kaat [2016-05-20 19:08:17 +0000 UTC]

Well thats the thing with having unique designs, you don't recognize them as a child for a specific ship because of their features.
Aka, they don't look like every other shipping kid.
For example, you can't see Twilight or Discord in my Yue .

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KitKatsArt [2016-05-20 17:12:03 +0000 UTC]

I like his new mane colors. He looks a lot more like a mixs of his parents.

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to KitKatsArt [2016-05-20 18:57:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, i like them a lot too!

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PixiePixelz [2016-05-20 16:52:31 +0000 UTC]

I like the way his mane is highlighted.

Sorry, but I don't have suggestions for senpai uvu.

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to PixiePixelz [2016-05-20 18:57:21 +0000 UTC]

It's okay! Thank you so much, tho!

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PixiePixelz In reply to Cheschire-Kaat [2016-05-21 06:49:11 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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BluegrassBrooke [2016-05-20 15:57:06 +0000 UTC]

I love the background you have for him! Your AJ and Flim story is too cute.

As far as design advice, I'd actually recommend steering away from a lot of the similar colors. That's a problem I see in a lot of next gens. It's assumed that you HAVE to use some combination of the parents' colors. Really, what you need is some family traits. You've got one there with AJ's freckles and the stripes. If you want him to "pop" you might try shifting the colors and manestyle a bit. Really setting him apart from his parents even if it's only appearance wise. Maybe he spikes his hair because he thinks it looks cool or has piercings or something seemingly silly like that. Just some ideas!

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to BluegrassBrooke [2016-05-20 18:56:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much!

I know what you mean.
I try to make my NGs as close to the parents as possible without actually looking like them. I in fact try to get similar results to the show's genetic codes and everything. Thing is, with this character, I needed to use AJ'S coat, but most designs had very few or no traits of Flim, making him look only like an Applejack NG, and not like a FlimJack one. I'm not sure about the colours yet, since most of my characters share familiar palettes, and if I need to change a character, this one's the first on my list.
(I probably forgot to say something)

But in which direction do you think I should go? I mean with my colour palettes?

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BluegrassBrooke In reply to Cheschire-Kaat [2016-05-20 19:53:04 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm. What might help is developing your Flim/Flam headcanon a bit. Things like family traits for them etc. In my writing, Flim and Flam are actually two out of eight siblings. All the Skim family members are unicorns as they're an old magic family. Every one of the skims has a bright color in their mane/tails with a few stripes of a more neutral color mixed in. The stallions all grow some kind of facial hair. Flam has a beard and mustache and Flim has sideburns for example. Their brother Blaire has a little goatee, Blackjack has an 1800's type mustache, and Bjorn has a full on mountain man beard. XD The Skims all have rather slender builds with none being particularly stocky except Bjorn (he's kinda a throwback to an older bloodline). 

Making headcanons like that can really help when you design the next gens. When I do FlimxAJ next gens, I'll try to include vivid stripes in the mane/tail as that's a family trait, but also a bit shorter and stockier build like AJ's family. If there's a stallion, I'd probably make him take after his Dad or his uncle Big Mac in terms of Body type rather than going for the middle ground. 

Here's some of my Skim siblings if that gives you any ideas.

Seance: bluegrassbrooke.deviantart.com…

Blaire: bluegrassbrooke.deviantart.com…

In terms of palettes, I think you need some more vibrant colors as "splashes" to accent the designs a spell. Also, the amount of freckles in his design is a bit much. I'd keep it confined to the face like in the show. 

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Scarlet-Mirages [2016-05-20 15:07:07 +0000 UTC]

I love his mane colors! ^^

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Cheschire-Kaat In reply to Scarlet-Mirages [2016-05-20 15:17:55 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I love them a lot!

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