Comments: 31
weiSSe-Ratte In reply to Chrishankhah [2012-06-19 21:48:46 +0000 UTC]
Oh, you dont have to harry!
Just I am now in africa as I've said before, and I cant make my part till I come home(
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Cylon-Caprica [2012-06-18 17:20:44 +0000 UTC]
oh...it just went on...
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Cylon-Caprica [2012-06-18 17:19:34 +0000 UTC]
I swear I just added a nice comment and it isn't here anywhere!
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Cylon-Caprica [2012-06-18 17:17:46 +0000 UTC]
Wow...this could spawn a separate novel as powerful as Dracula. Love this picture because the emotions cut right through. The rain and the water are a nice touch.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Chrishankhah In reply to Croxot [2012-06-18 03:27:03 +0000 UTC]
lol, thank you.
As for critique, I'm kind of two-fold on it. (You'll learn right now why I don't use the "critique" option on dA
I spent a lot of time staring at this and fixing errors, as I often do. I usually duplicate a merged layer for postwork, find an error, and have to go back, fix it, and re-do all of the postwork; I drive myself mad! After all of that, I know there are plenty more errors that I just can't get around to fixing. But if I spent any more time fixing them, I just wouldn't have gotten it done. (There are a lot of works sitting unfinished on my computer for that very reason.)
So, for instance (and just off the top of my head,) I know the lighting source looks wrong, but it's actually meant to be coming from above rather than the side. I just didn't get the angle down well enough to show that right. >< It's how the shadow actually fell when I tested the angle with a few pictures for reference. I can't logically explain it. There's a lot of things like this that I understand and just don't properly execute as well as I'd like. Most critiques just point out to me what's wrong, and it's kind of frustrating because they're things I recognize and just need to know how to do correctly -- which will come with practice, if nothing else. (It's gotten me this far!)
That said... (lol) ...I'm never too proud to hear advice that's well-meant, and if you can be gentle and overall positive, I'll hear you out! Especially if you have tips on technique!
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Chrishankhah In reply to Croxot [2012-06-18 17:06:42 +0000 UTC]
(Also, [link] is the initial sketch if it helps discern what's what. It's why I say some of it is just in technique and coloring.)
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Croxot In reply to Chrishankhah [2012-06-18 19:07:22 +0000 UTC]
The main two things I notice are closest arm and her leg posing.
Concerning the arm, even with the most skinny/boney people, there is still outward curvature. Even if it's slight, the presence of muscles on the forearm prevent the skin from making a straight shot to the wrist. The leftmost outside edge of her forearm should very slightly curve away from the bone where it connects to the elbow, before curving back in about halfway down the bone.
The forearm also looks a little bit too long, but that's very minor.
Her far leg is not visible. I realize the intent is that her torso is blocking the sight of her left leg, but the way her left foot is positioned, I feel like I should see at least part of it. If she's half-kneeling instead of squatting, which might hide the leg, the position of the torso starts to look off, and you'd probably still see her knee from that angle.
The trick I use to see if a pose makes sense (And it comes in handy very, very often) is to try the pose myself. If I can't do it without great discomfort, or simply can't do it at all, I re-work the pose.
I hope I didn't sound like a jerk. Cause it really is awesomely done, and shows improvement over past works in your gallery. I think you probably have a better understanding about things like lighting than me, as well as realistic human faces, hair and textures.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Chrishankhah In reply to Croxot [2012-06-18 19:52:16 +0000 UTC]
I think the forearm was a coloring oversight (look at the original sketch and you'll see what I mean.) It looked right back then, but yeah, I see what you mean, it looks weirdly elongated, now. I can never tell if limbs just look long when they're this thin or what. When I sketched it, I did meticulously measure out the length in terms of perspective, though.
The far leg is visible, actually, and both knees are visible --- not obscured by the torso at all -- but the skirt is narrow. (The bigger issue is how I painted the fabric, I think.) Only left calf is obscured by the right leg and the fabric. Take a look at the sketch I linked above, you should see what i mean. It's why I say a lot of things that were technically right to begin with got obscured in the coloring process. The leg positioning should have been obvious, but I kind of turned the whole area into a blob.
You make some good points, though! Would it be much to ask for a quick red-line thing, maybe submitted to stash and link me to it? You don't have to, but a visual idea might help me more. just keep the original sketch in mind, because I think it shows more accurately what I was trying to do here.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Croxot In reply to Chrishankhah [2012-06-18 20:43:57 +0000 UTC]
Oh jeez. I didn't see it when I looked at the sketch the first several times. I had to have them side by side to see it. [link]
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Azureas [2012-06-18 02:17:16 +0000 UTC]
Awesome. You're really improving. I like the rain effect and the perspective.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Kajm [2012-06-17 23:22:29 +0000 UTC]
Impudent, or defiant?
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Chrishankhah In reply to Kajm [2012-06-17 23:35:34 +0000 UTC]
Impudent characterizes her down to a T, I think. She is bold and full of hate, thinking of no one but herself.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
cricketflint [2012-06-17 23:18:42 +0000 UTC]
Wow... this is... good.
The story and drawing.
Outstanding <3
👍: 0 ⏩: 1