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Description dedicated to =kinderschokolade for being honest and his good photography.

i have so many photos from those gipsies... i should probably make one photo essay and give you a link to more pictures instead of submiting singles? because such pictures have better meaning together with others...
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Khartikeya [2006-09-08 09:52:42 +0000 UTC]

this one is wonderful, got to say, i'm amazed with your work!

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indorock [2006-06-03 13:17:56 +0000 UTC]

you have such a talent for capturing humans! really strong...thats why i cannot ever stop watching you

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nikitash [2006-05-25 11:29:22 +0000 UTC]

good angle!!!
really emotive picture!!!I love their expressions!
great work!!!!

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nikitash [2006-05-25 11:25:27 +0000 UTC]

wow!!I love the angle!!!really emotive picture!!!
great work

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DiabloAdvocati [2006-05-12 14:06:30 +0000 UTC]

Great colors here, love the look.

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londn [2006-05-02 03:10:28 +0000 UTC]

try photo filters to balance color.. they work well to nudge your tones in the right direction.

as severin was saying.. raw is essential if you ahve time to work with images.. for deadline assignments they mess up workflow.. takes too much time.. but i fyou have the time, shoot raw.. so much more control over the images.. plus when you make your brightness/contrast/sharpening adjustments, the native information of the file is preserved.. for jpeg it really takes a carving knife to the pixels.

anyway.. to the important stuff-

i want to know more about these people.. where they live.. how they got there.. what their home looks like.. what life is like for a day.. this image shows me what they look like but little else, definitely a nice detail shot for a larger body of work, but the information isnt there.

i dont KNOW they are gypsies from this image.. show me something that tells a story.

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chaos-magess [2006-05-02 02:21:24 +0000 UTC]

The title is definitely fitting and appropriate. I think what would enhance the photographs more is if we have more background on the culture/photographs. For me, at least, the world is so foreign that it's harder to access the emotional impact compared with your other photographs. Nevertheless, they are still brilliant thanks for sharing!

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br3w0k [2006-05-01 16:07:01 +0000 UTC]

beautiful portrait..just lovely ..

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londonxpress [2006-05-01 13:50:29 +0000 UTC]

The colours seem to be fine here (unless they've been adjusted and the shot reposted). The skin tones may be rich, but these people look like they've seen a lot of sun in their life so I can imagine that their skin will be darker for it. And while the tones are saturated there really isn't anything that stands out too much to detract the viewers attention.

I agree though, it would be nice to see some of these images side by side - maybe even in a simple tryptic format!

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Alter8Ego [2006-05-01 09:20:07 +0000 UTC]

I was just listening to an interview with Joachim Ladefoged one of my fav ex Magnum photographers, who said something that really matters to me: (paraphrasing) "Photo Journalism is Fine Art, there is no more distinction... and as allways the art of it is in the edit, a photo journalist must know hot to tell a story with select few images"

It makes any project so much more successful , worth while, fullfilling and complete to make it into an edited and sequenced photo essay, Plus never under estimate how significant this kind of a photo journalistic edit will be for potential pursuing of pj agencies and assignments.. include some of the back story, teach us about that particular group of gipsies ( you shared the general statistics ) but tell us about thse people u've come to know.. what u learned and how theis story is unique.

As Severin is telling u.. raw is the only option when shooting digital.. it's not so much the higher quality as he words it.. it is an entirely different image capture.. namely this is the analogy: a raw image is not the film negative, a raw image is the latent image on an un developped film negative. which is why the raw plug in and raw processing of files enables u to develop and re-develop that latent image till the negative u obtain as a result looks good.

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magic-medicine [2006-05-01 01:58:08 +0000 UTC]

good picture...i like the way the youngest looks the biggest due to the perspective

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Lion65 [2006-04-30 13:54:12 +0000 UTC]

beautiful concept, composition and capture!..

LION

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Sulejman [2006-04-30 12:03:48 +0000 UTC]

Hudo.
KakΕ‘ne poglede dobiΕ‘ tole - se kr mal ustraΕ‘iΕ‘.
Ε e posebej tista babica zadej, te tko gleda, sploh neveΕ‘ kaj si misli.

Super fotka!

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Ciril In reply to Sulejman [2006-04-30 14:02:28 +0000 UTC]

lol. hvala.

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zort [2006-04-30 11:25:15 +0000 UTC]

i like the idea but there is some sort of disturbing tension. dunno how to exlpain. still, so far the best from your gipsi-series. you should work on the color-balance - too much red for my taste. the colors are too saturated for my taste too.

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Ciril In reply to zort [2006-04-30 14:03:10 +0000 UTC]

yeah i had some problems with puting colours in the balance... i dont know. t
hank you.

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tzaj [2006-04-30 10:55:25 +0000 UTC]

Very nice - you could make a .pdf file with descriptions and photos perhaps?

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Ciril In reply to tzaj [2006-04-30 14:03:44 +0000 UTC]

or simple viewer gallery?....or powerpoint kinda thing.

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tzaj In reply to Ciril [2006-04-30 16:39:16 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I think it'd work out great!

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kinderschokolade [2006-04-30 10:21:06 +0000 UTC]

thanks mate !
i like the real emotions, i much prefer them to all positive looks. i'd be intrested in shots from you that don't show beautiful faceexpressions... because we know you can shoot smiles and bright eyes well, i'd just be intrested in seeing the opposite once. so that's why i like this from you here, those are real faces we see, especially the old lady, kinda cliche but good non the less - in short; well captured.

about the tones. i like it earthy, even with skintones, fits to the gipsys... anyway there is a little too much green in the shadows, i know skintones with the 20d not alwys turn out great, i have used it for long, but i highly recommend the raw-plugin, whitebalance and tone barrels to keep colours "real" looking.. well that's how i work.

cheers

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Ciril In reply to kinderschokolade [2006-04-30 14:05:11 +0000 UTC]

thank you. i will try to show more and put everything in a kind of a photo essey.
i have to learn more about raw formats...i am not using them at all.

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kinderschokolade In reply to Ciril [2006-04-30 14:27:44 +0000 UTC]

if i shoot digital. then only raw. i never shoot jpeg, much worse quality

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dragy88 [2006-04-30 10:20:33 +0000 UTC]

Dobra fotka :] Odlična kvaliteta

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aiew [2006-04-30 10:05:02 +0000 UTC]

I love these series.. excellent work.
Myself, I would be afraid to go shoot gipsies here in Latvia.. because of risk returning back home without my gear.. here they are somehow socially very agressive, loud in public transport, intrusive, pickpockets.. and so on.. I drive through the area where they live every morning by tram. and would not like to walk alone there. maybe only here in Latvia.. like two seperate worlds.
but they are very photogenic people, with deep cultural roots. that's no doubt.

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Ciril In reply to aiew [2006-04-30 14:05:38 +0000 UTC]

i went there with some friends. they are also very very friendly. we had a great time. thanks.

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ghardin [2006-04-30 08:59:53 +0000 UTC]

It's really moving...
One can find the same wisdom and experience in the eyes of the elder and the eyes of the children. Amazing.

I like the whole Gypsy serie so far, waitin' to see more

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Ciril In reply to ghardin [2006-04-30 14:05:49 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

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mizuuko [2006-04-30 07:18:45 +0000 UTC]

...and before the elders came the CLOTHWASHING.... :3 sowwie, a bad joke

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Ciril In reply to mizuuko [2006-04-30 08:36:22 +0000 UTC]

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ephemere [2006-04-30 03:37:53 +0000 UTC]

i would be really interested in that photo essay because each picture up to now was great, now i want to know the story!

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Ciril In reply to ephemere [2006-04-30 08:33:53 +0000 UTC]

yeah i will make it. for you also.

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seanfl [2006-04-30 03:05:42 +0000 UTC]

I really like it!

I do think however, that your color balance is off, or maybe my monitor is lookin strange today?

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Ciril In reply to seanfl [2006-04-30 08:33:28 +0000 UTC]

it is off indeed. i was trying to put in balance but i couldn`t. thanks.

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VioLeS [2006-04-30 01:23:52 +0000 UTC]

I love the colors of this one... I wonder: why gipsys? this one seems to be so natural ... great job ciril...~VioLeS

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Ciril In reply to VioLeS [2006-04-30 08:34:26 +0000 UTC]

i will show you more...you will see that they are really gipsies. they are modern gipsies i guess.

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VioLeS In reply to Ciril [2006-04-30 17:50:36 +0000 UTC]

Then... I'll wait ... show me more, boy......~VioLeS

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olino [2006-04-29 23:37:41 +0000 UTC]

Some things I always enjoy in your pictures is that the colors are always real, the colors are vibrant! Other thing is your compositions, they work really well.
This is a beautiful photograph.

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Ciril In reply to olino [2006-04-30 08:34:35 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

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Asherphotog [2006-04-29 22:55:05 +0000 UTC]

This would be a perfect shot to end a series of these Gypsies. It shows probably 80+ years of cultural heritage and succession in one frame. Its really a brilliant shot. I love this series you're doing on the Gypsies. I just wish interesting people lived near me.

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Ciril In reply to Asherphotog [2006-04-30 08:36:01 +0000 UTC]

and they dont live so near me. we were driving aroun 3 hours to get to their place. and i am sure that there are interesting peoeple around you as well. just open your eyes.

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Asherphotog In reply to Ciril [2006-04-30 19:12:47 +0000 UTC]

Well LA has some interesting people. But its very, very urban where I live. And it goes on foreeeeeever in every direction until you reach the desert or the ocean of Mexico. I might just drive down there one of these days, its an hour south of here only.

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Ciril In reply to Asherphotog [2006-04-30 08:35:15 +0000 UTC]

hm i am not sure if i would put this one in the end but maybe. well wait for more. i will make one gallery-a kind of a photographic essey.

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