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So...what if Darth Vader's apprentice Starkiller managed to kill the Emporer. Does that mean that in Return of the Jedi Luke would fight Starkiller!?Who would win?
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1 FU1 Galen actually beat Darth Vader FU2 Starkiller ad to trick him and Vader wasn't trying to kill him.
2 FU2 Starkiller is a basket case.
So FU1 is a better more mentally stable fighter
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If is Luke from the Expanded Universe he will easily kick Starkiller with no effort.
Look...
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Nice work!!! personally, i believe that starkiller would win
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This would make a good DLC for StarWars The Force Unleashed 2.
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ROTJ Luke would get slaughtered by Starkiller. Luke, while powerful for someone with his amount of training, does not have the elegance, skill, nor experience that Starkiller has under his belt when it comes to fighting force users.
forces users Killed by Starkiller (this version anyways) in a duel WITHOUT help: Rham Kota (knight), Shaaki Ti (Master), Maris Brood (Padawan), Kazdan Paratus (insane-Master),Palpatine (Well this version anyway), and various Imperial Guardsmen (who were all partially trained force users).
Any-one with a degree of competence and/or skill killed by ROTJ Luke in a duel WITHOUT help: ........ can't think of anyone. (not trying to be funny, but in all of the books about or between the movies, he hasn't beaten one force-user in a one on one fight).
And for People who say that Luke would win because he's the "chosen one"; that is a total cop-out. First, Anakin is the chosen one. Second, Starkiller isn't Vader, he has no emotional ties with Luke and will show no mercy to this ill-trained wannabe Jedi Padawan who happens to think a few months of training with Yoda and 2-3 years worth of independent studies could match Starkillers own 20+ years of training and life-risking experiences at the hands of the most powerful force users in the Galaxy.
On a different note: if we were talking about EU Luke, well, lets just say Galen could kiss his a** good bye.
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You also brought up a point that has bugged me. Just because you're the chosen one, doesn't mean you're the most powerful. Anakin certainly isn't
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Yeah, at this time Luke isn't a very strong Jedi. However, if you were to take the Luke from the Fate of the Jedi series... they would probably rip the Death Star apart in their epic clash.
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And I completely did not see your note on the bottom there. (Product of no sleep/splitting headache I guess. Lol.) I do think they would be more evenly matched though, but Luke is the son of Anakin after all, and has had countless years to hone his craft. Although, perhaps the same could be said for Starkiller if he ends up surviving the Force Unleashed series.
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oh god I always wanted to see this fight...or maybe starkiller vs evil anakin, that would be jizztastic!!! lol
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Love Vader sitting on the throne.
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Vader's son Vs Vader's Apprentice.
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Well, the outcome is clear: Luke redeems Vader, Starkiller obeys Vader, and everything goes back to normal. The good guys still win.
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*sigh* i'm slightly annoyed at all these people claiming Starkiller has a chance. I've read dozens of comments claiming Starkiller "pulled down a Star Destroyer", when in actuality the Star Destroyer was already falling from orbit. Starkiller may have had intense training, but he lacked the natural skill that Luke possessed. Keep in mind, before Luke's duel against Vader in Empire, Luke had hardly weilded his lightsaber at all, and yet he was able to combat one of greatest lightsaber duelists, holding his own for the majority of the fight, and even gaining the upper hand at times. By Return of the Jedi, Luke had become a much better duelist, defeating Vader in less than two minutes (after he actually started trying to win). And for all of you who claim "Starkiller might not be good with a lightsaber, but most of his power comes from the force," please keep in mind that the same is true for Luke. In order to properly weild a lightsaber, one must be immensely talented in the force. The more potential in the force, the greater the duelist. By that fact alone, Luke should be able to defeat Starkiller in a duel, saber or no.
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very true but Luke don't have saber crystals that steal health SO, HA!!
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Yeah... Just keep in mind, that was for gameplay only, and even if Starkiller really DID obtain a crystal like that, Luke could still likely defeat him fast enough for it not to matter.
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Eh its possible but he could also be convince to join the darkside since it did happen. Im not talking about game wise also, He became the clone palpatine apprentice for a short moment also. Or it could be the other way around he can convince Galen to join the lightside.
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Luke convincing Galen to turn to the lightside seems much more likely. The only reason Luke joined Sidious is because he was aware it would be impossible for him to defeat the Emperor at that moment. Palpatine had several clones, and if he were to destroy that current incarnation of Sidious, the Emperor would just live again in another clone. The only way for Luke to win was to join Sidious and destroy all of the Emperor's clones. Galen does not have the same advantage that Palpatine had, not to mention it shouldn't take much to turn Galen back to the light. His transitions from dark to light and vice versa have always been somewhat spur of the moment.
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true but it may have turned out different if he had a master like palpatine dont get me wrong vader was a good sithlord and such but there were more better sithlords that can probably trained him better in the ways of the darkside in my opinion.
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I will admit, he would have been a much greater warrior if he had been trained by a different master, but as far as this picture is concerned, Galen's only master is Vader.
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THANK YOU FOR YOU LOGIC. Much appreciated.
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why you donΒ΄t make a female vader-stalker??
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EVERYBODY IS WRONG
FINAL XEMNAS WOULD APPEAR AND ETHEREAL BLADE EVERYBODY INTO OBLIVION
*shot*
XD
*favs*
Very well done! I love it.
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Luke would redeem both Vader and Starkiller.
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luke because starkiller is a girl lol
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Marek easily. He had superior training in both lightsaber combat and Force use, and how to combine them.
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I think luke would feel starkiller's conflicted feeling about Vader, and would convince him to come to the lightside and they would fight vader together.
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Great Picture, by the way, mr artist. That's a favorite.
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I actually think Luke wins. Even if Starkiller could pull off a victory, it would be far from hands down. Even in return of the Jedi he was a way better duelist than Starkiller. In the novel, we read(if we've read it) that Starkiller was basically losing every duel he was in. He was a horrible duelist. Besides, I'm pretty sure Darth Vader likes his son just a tiny bit more than he likes Starkiller. He'd likely lend a hand if it was needed, which is doubtful.
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Well, not really. No. There was a DLC for Force Unleashed, you see, that continues on after you kill Vader (this is obviously not as canon). You also meet and fight a certain Luke Skywalker, who is more powerful and more skilled with a lightsaber than he ever was in the movies. He gets beaten up by Starkiller, begins to use the dark side of the Force, gets beaten up again, gets run over by a snowspeeder, then gets his hand cut off, and is then forced to become Starkiller's apprentice. In that order. So yeah, we know how this fight would go already, although it's likely Vader would step in and save Luke from complete destruction. He IS his son after all. Also, I would just like to remind you that if you go by canon (i.e. the game), Starkiller defeated the Emperor and Vader in quick succession, bringing them both to their knees. As I recall, Luke DID eventually beat Vader (though he had to give into his rage to do so) but the Emperor kinda beat him. Hands down. Vader had to step in to save him. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but having your father sacrifice himself to save your life does not count as being a better duelist. Ever. At all.
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Well, actually, yes. Once again, I'm telling you that going by the novels, Luke was a much better duelist. He was a great one by Return of the Jedi and fared better against Vader, but Vader was also his father. He wasn't completely trying because he still believed in his father returning to the light. Starkiller was pissed at Vader, trying to kill him, and was still struggling, until he started throwing things at him and using lightning. Yes Starkiller beat Vader, but if we read the novel, or the comic, we know Emperor let him win. Even in the game, Starkiller said "It's a trick. He's more powerful than we know..." et cetera. Also, if we go by your non-canon, when Starkiller tried to kill Palpatine, he was easily swatted away. But again, that's non-canon. Luke, however, refused to fight emperor at all, cast his sabre away, so we still have no idea how he would have done fighting. Novels give us more insight into how the fights should go, because of the limitations of the films and things back then, plus telling you what characters think, i.e. "I can barely keep up with her." "He's overwhelming me." Et cetera.
Thank you.
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Novels may be fine for the films, but I'm afraid that the game really didn't require a novelization to see how it went. And Luke ALSO gave in and got angry. Both Starkiller and Luke got angry at Vader and used the dark side to fuel their attacks. But the difference is that Luke only cut off Vader's hand, whereas Starkiller wounded him and tore off his armor. Mind you, the two fight in a COMPLETELY different manner, so how they'd fare against each other is really an unknown factor (although it's worth mentioning that, novel or no, Luke has never had half the powers of Starkiller. He may indeed be much more skilled with a lightsaber, but anyone who's played the game OR read the novel knows that Starkiller's most lethal abilities have nothing to do with the lightsaber.).
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Actually, if we want the full experience, the full truth, the novel is a necessity. The game seems to have people thinking that Starkiller actually ripped a completely working star destroyer, one that wasn't already falling, out of the sky(Which he didn't) with ease. Luke didn't do what starkiller did because he regained control of himself. Actually, in EU, all of the force-users are way beyond what they seem to be in the movies, and yes, Luke is that powerful. He was the first in a very long time to earn the title "Grand Master," though in TFU games, everyone seems to have those over-the-top abilities. Yes, we can't say for sure, but the evidence goes Starkiller had trouble with the likes of practically everyone he fought. Kota, Maris, Shaak Ti(although that's understandable, Shaak Ti was a top jedi even in her time, when they were plentiful and tended to be more skilled and powerful.) Yes, they are, but I would wager Luke could also match him if he wanted.
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Eh. We'll never know, because Starkiller died, his clone turned out to be slightly less powerful (had even more trouble fighting Vader), and they're probably never going to make another game to explain why we never see the clone again.
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I like you. You didn't yell at me. Usually when I disagree with people about Starkiller, they yell at me and it makes me want to cry. *Sniff sniff*
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No, I prefer reasonable debate. It has a better end effect, with the bonus that trolls eventually get confused and give up.
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