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Published: 2012-03-09 03:59:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 2065; Favourites: 48; Downloads: 12
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This is a pencil drawing of the Doctor, River and their baby. I can only hope that this will someday happen in the actual show.Related content
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me tooΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β river eye are well...
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i mean in the show i wish it whoud happen
not i hate river
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awe can you hate river do you like cara or rose
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I just find her such a irritating character. She's so rude and overly dramatic. She thinks she knows everything about him, when she doesn't. Plus it just looks wrong, she looks old enough to be his mum. I guess they are okay. I just find the writing irritating how it makes then too "amazing" when Rose is like the 30th girl to travel with the Doctor.
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ow sozΒ i am a huge river fan and i was...i....soz ...i dont like clara because of moffat do you like david tennant because if you do then it is something we both agree on ha and alex kingston is 50 matt smith is 30 yes she i old enough t be his mum...Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
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Haha! lol. David is okay, I think he is a bit overrated. Eight is my favourite Doctor
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Well, twice in season 6 River being the mother of at least one child by the Doctor. In "The Impossible Astronaut" River throws up the same as Amy did. River and Amy were the only ones who vomited. Amy figured she was pregnant (and she was). River threw up in the tunnel, Rory witnessed it.
River tried to threw off any speculation by saying it was "bad prison food". Rory's expression showed he was doubtful about that and concerned (and this was when he just knew her as their and the Doctor's friend, and maybe the Doctor's wife- the mixed up timelines- not strictly back to front, the Doctor started making his date night encounters with River post his memory of their wedding in the alternate timeline, and arranged with River for her to get rid of the Teleselecta from their wedding and fake killing), but for her this was shortly before the events of the "Pandorica Opens" and "Big Bang". Amy was pregnant with Melody for over a year- from late June 2010- some time around August 2011, and River is just half time lord. River and the Doctor's baby would be nearly completely time lord, it makes sense that that kind of pregnancy could take twice as long.
The other hint was when River sees the Doctor's cot in "A Good Man Goes To War" She says she "hadn't seen that in long time" and the script direction says she gazes upon it with fond memories. Melody Pond was a newborn and was never in that cot. (This also hints that the River there that night is a far older that current time, one that had a child or children with the Doctor, years before. Alex Kingston in the Confidential for that episode all but makes it obvious with the teasing statement- "I wonder just how many babies were in that cot!"
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Great observations! I really hope they prove to be true, though I suppose only time will tell. But, Matt Smith confirmed the other day at the London Comic-Con that River will be returning in 2013 and the way he was at first hesitant and then later very excited to admit it leads me to believe something massive is coming for River.
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Can you send me that link for that comic-con thanks
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Oh, well...that was from a while ago (October 2012). And at this point we absolutely know that River has a big presence in the finale.
But here's the link:[link]
They start talking about River at 12:50.
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Oh yeah, saw the clip of that- a person in the audience asks if River would be back in 2013, the staff writer/production person there with Matt immediately says "Yes." Matt says "can we talk about this yet?" When the staff person says yes to him, he gets very excited and grins and says "yes". 
I'm hoping with that heavy hinting last season that does mean a baby for the Doctor and River.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking when I mentioned that clip.
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Yeah, and it's interesting they seem to be really guarding what River will be doing too- there usually are a few leaks, even from stuff filmed in studio, at least a picture of them outside the studio waiting to do their scene, or taking a break from it. From Matt's reaction something with Alex in the second part of series 7 has been filmed already. Why would they not allow even on set break pictures to be released? Hmmm, could it be the next time we see River (surprise Christmas special cameo I'm hoping) she'll be hugely pregnant? Their Christmas specials are always kind of silly and full of cliches 
Find it interesting, and maybe another clue that they are going this direction with River is that Clara is a "governess in the Victorian period and an au pair in the modern period. If River is a professor, she'll need a baby caretaker from time to time... Maybe not on a day to day basis in the 51st century (one would hope by then society would be enlightened enough to not be offended by a mother bringing her infant child to work with her...), but when she would go on archeological expeditions for the university she'd not want to endanger her baby by bringing it along.
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But no matter how it's going to happen, I'll bet anything that the Doctor will be shocked that she was pregnant
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The baby will be named Susan Foreman, thus completing the cycle an closing the time loop.
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But isn't Susan the Doctor's granddaughter?
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Indeed. My mistake. Let me ammend that. One day that child will grow up and have a daughter named Susan.
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that is an interesting speculation on your part and their expressions really say it for this moment, for them
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Aaw! Cute! But there'd always be that underlying missing of Rose in him.
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No, falling in love with River allowed him to completely move on from Rose. Moffat calls River the greatest love of the Doctor's entire life. (meaning All regenerations.) It's been made obvious how more intense his love for River is than any other person he's loved several times, but completely obvious in season 7's "The Angels Take Manhattan". The Doctor is almost constantly touching her some way in every scene they share, including kissing her twice (once on the cheek with a hand in her hair, and once on her injured hand), in a clearly romantic fashion. He not only loves her, but even after about 10 years of marriage (which they both take completely seriously) he still intensely desires her, so much so he displays this publicly, in front of her mother, no less. (Amy completely approves of the relationship, so that helps matters
Rose has the human clone of the 10th Doctor who has one heart and cannot regenerate. That clone is the Doctor at the point where he had only met River once, and thought he witnessed her death for him. Even just that one meeting was enough for the 10th Doctor to start to have feelings for her, but he thought he lost her so he was in mourning about that.
The 10th Doctor didn't see River again, so he didn't have a chance to truly fall in love with her yet. So the human clone of the 10th Doctor is the Doctor at the stage where he still had those feelings for Rose.
The 11th Doctor met River and, despite fighting the feelings because he saw what he thought was her death (There were hints before in River's dialogue in seasons 5 and 6 that she may have survived the Library, Angels Take Manhattan all but spells it out, both visually and in dialogue).
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continued- That's why the 11th Doctor acted like such an awful jerk to River in season 5, he was afraid he would fall in love deeper than he ever had before, then lose her to death in the Library. Despite his very jerkish behavior, he couldn't fight his intense attraction- he leers at her several times while he's insulting her. River flirts with him, but she senses something behind his jerkishness and deliberately talks about being in jail for "murdering a good man". (River of course knows at this time she fought being forced to act that out tooth and nail, because she was determined to not harm the man she loves. And that she hadn't actually killed him, but pleaded guilty and served time in jail to protect him.
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Wow... that was long... but I sort of agree, but I'm not as into it as I was in seasons 1-4. But I still like Moffat's writing, at least in Sherlock. Anyway... I guess so.. But I just like to think he o still loves her but only left her with the Human Doctor because it was better for her than being with him. He probably did get over her, mostly. But I'd think there would be rare times he remembers her and is happy for her yet sad for himself, but then sees what he has now: River.
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It's more like when you date someone in high school and it's good and you don't break up but have to part ways and never see them again. But then you fall deeply in love with someone else as an adult. You no longer feel heartache over losing your high school sweetheart, because now you love someone else on a deeper, more mature level (both sexually and romantically.) You think of your high school sweetheart fondly and hope they found the same kind of grown up love with someone else. The Doctor has a good clue that was going to happen for Rose and the human clone of the Doctor.
It's more like what he thinks about Rose is what he thinks about Sarah Jane, Jo, Grace, Martha, Ace- the companions that came out better from the time they spent as his companion- that they were able to build better lives from it.
Who he would feel sad about were the companions that lost dramatically or died because of their association with him- Donna, Amy and Rory, etc... and until the obvious hints she gave him in Manhattan that he grasped- that she survived the Library- River herself. (His fear that he could not rescue her from the Library made him fight falling in love with her by being really jerkish, but he fell in love anyway and felt helpless and sad. But after he realizes in Manhattan- at first he's happy, then he's angry she lied to him- both in Manhattan and the Library, then he's contrite for being a jerk again- and wants to fix the damage she's taken for his sake, then he gets protective of her- doesn't want to let her go for a moment- River knows that's not healthy though- for either of them, and lets him know she'll always be there for him- whenever and wherever, but they must not become too dependent on each other. He needs to interact with other people besides her. She has a career as a Professor, so she regularly interacts with others- River though, doesn't go crazy dark when she is alone for along time like the Doctor does- her self-esteem drops and she gets a bit depressed. But she's otherwise okay.
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Wow. That was even longer. But I don't mind.
Anyway, I sort of agree with you on the Donna front, he'd be most sorry for them. And I sort of agree with you otherwise, but not totally. This is where our opinions differ, and that's fine. But I like the way you interpret it, though it's not the same as mine.
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Wouldn't there always be that underlying missing of Rose in him?
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True.But at least she had her happy ending.
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Yeah, she's happy, but he wouldn't be. He'd always be wondering, "What if I'd been able to help her... stay with her." I have a fan-fiction about that, if you PM me your e-mail address, I can send it.
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Oh yes! That has to become a fanfic!
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This is so cute! This really needs to happen on the show!
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Thanks! I totally agree!
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Awww Adorable! I would LOVE for this to happen on the show!
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