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all the more reason to stop the idiocy of taxing energy.
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The vast majority of serious scientists believe in man made global warming.
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If by serious you mean profitting, then you are right. Alas, if we are doing research by poll, then will conservatives simply cease to exists? guns? Americans?
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What do you mean those that believe in man made global warming are the ones that are profiting? Much of the evidence against global warming comes from research funded by industries that are major polluters. I know that science isn't majority rules nor am I saying that it should be it. Science is governed by evidence and I haven't found any against man made global warming (and yes I have been looking).
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What temp should the earth be? How long have we had data? why has it warmed & cooled to greater extremes w/o man? Why is the earth cooling now? Govt profits from GW by the carbon credit junk so they cut funding when a project does not support there goal. More & more are coming out against Man GW these days
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All of those questions don't really punch any holes in man made global warming it just shows that you don't know much about it. Here's a video that might help though [link]
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It is impossible to build a fence on the border, but I can save the planet by paying Al Gore? Maybe u live in that world. Not me.
If you can't see that GW is just a money grab then you are lost.
have a nice day.
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You're creating false dichotomies based on what you assume I'm telling you and completely ignore the evidence I was trying to show you with that video. Why bring up the boarder fence? You're just trying to distract from the topic at hand. I do not support the idea of carbon credits (if that's what you were impling with the paying Al Gore Comment) nor did I say that I did. While capping carbon admission is good, making carbon sequestration a profit driven thing would only cause more problems. You assume too much because you want to clump me together with your stereotype of people who disagree with you.
If we're going to continue this discussion further maybe we should do so via private messages as to not spam your comments page.
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its all connected. the pt of gw is the taxation and sale of pollution indulgences (carbon credits/offsets) Only zealots truly weep for gaia, most libs just want $. It is as clear as following the $.
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This isn't about weeping for gaia! I'm trying to debate you about the actual evidence but in return you just keep resorting to name calling, conspiracy theories, and rhetoric. I'm not going to bother debating you any more.
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Gordon Freeman pwns all socialist pseudoscientists with a crowbar...to death.
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You've got to be kidding me. Global Warming is backed up by hard science. They were studying it for many years before concluding their findings. The top ten hottest records in human history have all been after 1990. Anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations have been at an all time high since their have been one car for every 5 people, and high amounts of pollution from tons of sources. If global warming is just a natural effect, why is their a direct link to the amount of pollutants people are throwing into our air, and the temperature. Throughout history until the 20th century coal, oil, and other resources weren't used because they didn't know what they did. Things in the environment stayed way more constant. Since the Industrial Revolution their have been dramatic changes in our environment. Could you not deny the human helping? Since 2000 their have been floods, droughts, hurricanes, packed up more in the last 5 years, then previously in the last 20. This is also connected with the high amounts of pollutants in our air.
Your well thought out argument? I do like some insight on your side of the thought process. Convince me scientifically that man has no impact.
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So you did the science and research yourself? You're probably getting these "facts" from idiots who think we evolved from monkeys.
Not to mention, it seems were only have records of a few decades. What about the weather 500 years ago?
Global warming my ass. It's colder here in NorCal than it was last year.
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we did evolve from monkeys
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Where do you get this? I weep for the future. The sun and water vapor are the biggest factors in the climate. Man has little control over either.
co2science.org [link]
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Are you stupid? OF COURSE there is natural rising and cooling. It happens slow over thousands of years in an exceedingly predictable pattern. This fast rising of temperature has happened in less then a hundred years, completely out of cycle. This type of warming isn't like natural warming.
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How do they know this has never happened before?
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Look at Russian research which is devoid of the politics around global warming. Russians have quite a diff view.
How accurate do you think records where even 60 years ago?
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M favorite part is where we learn that methane and carbon dioxide are supposed to be scarier than Sulfer Dioxide and Nitrous Oxide.
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The way they talk you'd sure think so.
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The "serious" three scientists out of all those out there who believe Global Warming is a real threat.
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Yeah, tell us again about how Satan planted dinosaur bones as a trick to make us believe in evolution =0
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Whether or not he did that, the fact remains that liberals are pro-Satan.
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That must be one of the absolute fucking stupidest things I have read my entire life. Where in the world do you arrive at a conclusion like that? Just thinking a single person on the face of this good earth is capable of formulating such a mindless, idiotic statement scares me even worse than the idea of global warming being real or even SATAN being real! You, fellow human being, need to leave the crib behind and start making some EDUCATED statements about things. Dear God.
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I'm an evil socipathic conservative. What do you expect? 
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lol whut
I don't believe satan exists so I can't be pro-satan.
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One of his greatest deceptions was convincing the world that he doesn't exist. But humans are completely capable of all sorts of evil even without his influence, so I wonder sometimes if it really makes a difference whether or not we believe he exists in the first place.
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Humans are capable of evil with the influence of god too, so I don't see what your point is. And if it doesn't make a difference whether or not we believe satan exists then why would he try to make people believe he doesn't exist? Just for kicks? He was bored? the petty soul game just isn't getting him off anymore?
by the way, you think god approves of inflation fetishes? I'm just curious.
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It's not a fetish for me. All of my blub-related artwork is G-rated -- nothing that could be misconstrued as porn. There's nothing in the Ten Commandments prohibiting the artistic fattening of carto0n/anthro characters.
And if you're going to bring up gluttony, let me point out that only Catholics believe gluttony is a sin. It's actually not a sin, it's an abomination of the flesh that literally results in death (which is why the stuff represented in weight gain art should not be practiced in real life).
When you say that people do evil in the name of God, are you referencing human institutions such as inquisitions, crusades, and jihads? People who do evil in the name of the God of the Israelites are usually either false prophets or are possessed. For example, Hitler was backed by the white horsemen of the Catholic church.
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Kay, I was just curious, cuz a lot of fetishes float around DA
Wait, it's not a sin, but it's an abomination? Isn't that kind of the same thing?
"When you say that people do evil in the name of God, are you referencing human institutions such as inquisitions, crusades, and jihads? People who do evil in the name of the God of the Israelites are usually either false prophets or are possessed. For example, Hitler was backed by the white horsemen of the Catholic church."
LOL no, according to your religion everyone sins right? So basically you're saying they couldn't have been true christians because they did something wrong. But then that means there are no true christians. No true scotsman fallacy ftl
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And on the subject of sins versus abominations, the difference is that an abomination of the flesh might not necessarily be scribed in the Commandments but is a behavior that can actually kill a person!
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Okay, I guess that makes sense, being fat can kill you, but it kind of depends, I mean if you're a little overweight you're probably fine, but if you're obese it can give you immense health problems, but too much of anything can kill you.
I mean, technically, too much WATER could kill you too.
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...or not enough.
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To0 much oxygen. To0 much nitrogen. To0 much alcohol....
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You're over-analyzing it. I to0 have a tendency to do that. And I love Scottish beer.
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Er, okay, scottish beer isn't QUITE what I was talking about..but alright
I don't much care for beer myself, tastes kind of icky. If I want any alcohol I'll usually just get a wine cooler or something.
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What beers have you tasted? Domestics are indeed icky. More like flat yeast-flavored soda than real beer. Rogue hazelnut brown nectar is a prime example of an American beer that's really excellent. However, it costs $6 a pint!
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I can't for the life of me remember what kind of beer it was. All I know is that it tasted bad
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If you believe in man-made global warming you'll believe anything.
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Actually I think man-made global warming exists, but we're not contributing nearly as much to it as the Earth itself does. Still, it's not a BAD thing to want to clean up the environment anyways.
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No matter what, global warming helps the economy. It creates new jobs, stimulates the release of more gasoline-efficient cars, and encourages the construction of research facilities (which can be used for future generations).
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No reasonable person would say it's bad to clean up the environment. However, it is hubris to think man's impact is so great. When did science conclude that the Earth's temperature was a constant? The sun and water vapor are the major variables. CO2 is a neglible factor, but it is the flavor of the month. Global Warming is the Reefer Maddness of its' era.
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I actually sort of agree with you when you say it's foolish to think man's impact is that huge, considering that life on the planet has recovered from such massive extinction level events in the past. But wiping out entire species, polluting our own environment, etc, is pretty silly. We can't destroy the life on Earth completely, but we can certainly damage our own ecosystem quite a bit.
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well said. even though we can dispute our impact on the ecosystem, we should still try to make our footprint on it as small as reasonably possible. (reasonable in reference to technologically and finacially)
Not saying its a small footprint, not saying its a big one. After all, its not like I'm claiming to be a scientist...
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Yeah, killing off keystone species certainly does have an impact on the ecosystem, plus things we do to others or the environment can easily come back to haunt us.
There's this place downtown here, called "Love canal," awhile ago they buried a bunch of toxic waste there, and then later built a neighborhood on top of it and sold it to poor people, and they ended up becoming cancer-ridden from the toxins and if you visited there you could see people's hair falling out in chunks, and babies were born with deformities. Not pretty stuff
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Well, why didn't you just come out and SAY that instead of acting like a self-absorbed cup of shitnoodles?
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