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CreativeSubstance In reply to Zebrapluschi [2013-08-22 16:27:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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CreativeSubstance In reply to tonicwalter [2013-08-12 11:53:33 +0000 UTC]

I am using separate layers, thank you for the feedback by the way.

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tonicwalter In reply to CreativeSubstance [2013-08-12 12:11:50 +0000 UTC]

You don't seem to get much feedback despite your request. I probably shouldn't have given you any - the shortness if your answer indicates that in fact it's compliments you seek. That's a very dA-thing to do.
If you do use separate layers, cleaning up your work shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes. A common excuse for a lack of craft is that it's the "artist's" style. Not saying that it's yours, but once someone stops developing, he should stay out of the game.

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CreativeSubstance In reply to tonicwalter [2013-08-12 13:37:18 +0000 UTC]

I don't seek compliments, while they are nice, I do aim to get better. 

And you are right, I should have responded better than a sentence. 

Honestly, I hate dirty works, and would rather have them clean and orderly, which, makes me quite the hypocrite.

I'll make sure I take the time to clean and finish a work before I post it,

around the end I get complacent with the quality of the works compared to the quality I can do,

it's a habit I never tried to break as nobody ever said anything; in which I'm glad you did. 

I did however, believe that the sketchy uneven way of drawing was my drawing style, which was, in a nutshell an excuse

to not have to clean a work. 

Referring back to your previous comment, 'You don't quite have the anatomy down.', I would like to inquire how so? 

I know I'm not perfect, but I have 'tunnel vision' and another pair of eyes to glance over the work would be nice.

To the reference of pure white and black, I'm still getting a hang of grey scale painting and hoping to be able to color soon,

I'm not certain if I can change this one or not, but I certainly will try as I use pure black and white almost unconsciously in terms of shading.

I would rather not do the 'dA-thing' and alienate or ignore people trying to help, but now I see why they do it, as everyone wants to be

told how good they are. On my list of bad habits, I'd rather not make that one. 

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tonicwalter In reply to CreativeSubstance [2013-08-12 15:57:11 +0000 UTC]

To be perfectly honest, I did not expect such a mature reply.  You seem to be pretty hard on yourself, which is a good thing in general. I'd rather see you apply that pressure when the time of complacency comes. Not saying that it's wrong to be proud of one's work, but professional distance once in a while doesn't hurt. Concerning the anatomy, I'm not really sure how to express it since I'm no master at it. The ratio between her torso and legs is fine, actually. Her torso seems to bend in a weird way, though, and since it's almost a front view, you wouldn't see that much butt. Since the pose is pretty dynamic, your composition isn't optimal - the foreshortening of her hands and arms didn't quite work out (remember: one hand is big enough to cover the entire face. Her right leg is bent in an awkward angle, it looks almost as if she doesn't have the lower part of it. Try to imitate her pose (without floating of course) - does that feel natural? Didn't think so. Do you have some kind of image reference for it?
When you're working on line art, take the time to flip the whole image horizontally. That'll help you to see things your eyes got too used to.
As I mentioned, I'm no master at this, but maybe this helps with orientation (I was almost too embarassed to post this since I didn't have a reference): img266.imageshack.us/img266/77…

The grey scale painting is a good way to learn how to use tone and it is a good way for concept artists to spot flaws in their ideas. For hobbyists like us, it seems like a lot of work for little results.
I'd rather go and color the picture, then apply an adjustment layer which shows you b/w. If there are colors that are no longer distinguishable, you know that something went wrong and can adapt.

Btw, I find the whole composition kind of awkward. I think that changing to more common ratio (I prefer DIN A4 or 4:3) helps with that. On top of it, you - most of the time - don't want to put your character in the very middle of the page...exceptions would be portraits or pin up. If the poses are very dynamic, most of the time you want to have a "flow". I'm getting over my head right now so I'll stop right here.

As you can see from my work, there's a lot of change in both lineart and coloring style. Try out stuff - if you like it, great. If you don't - do better next time.

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CreativeSubstance In reply to tonicwalter [2013-08-12 17:44:51 +0000 UTC]

I know what you mean with the mature reply part, the internet in general and even sites

like DA aren't optimal for 'enlightened conversation' (a rather general term). I'm happy to be hard on myself, I hope to 

do this as a career one day and practice is key.

Concerning the anatomy, I thank you for the help, I usually do poses freehand with no reference, I'll admit that not once 

had it occurred to me that I should try the pose myself, use proper proportion, or to flip it horizontally. (More of me being a hypocrite, also saved the image for future use.)

I've decided to use grey scale as my coloring skills are less than lackluster, of course I could color in different styles but my main aim and goal is to paint in color. (also very stubborn)

between painting grey scale or or doing block coloring, I believed that grey scale was one step closer to the ultimate goal and offered a decent challenge.

The common ratio never bothered me before, but I will take the advice to heart. I'm interested in hearing more about character position within a composition, it's

rather amazing that I've never taken steps and methods into consideration.

I'll make sure to aim higher in the quality of my work by trying new things.

By the way, I like your artwork.

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CreativeSubstance In reply to GuillermoAntil [2013-08-12 02:13:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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CreativeSubstance In reply to Northern-Dash [2013-08-11 23:17:22 +0000 UTC]

Lol, guess that makes sense

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