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Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-09 09:01:52 +0000 UTC]
I was going through my mountain of deviations in my inbox, and noticed you posted something new yourself!
Its nice to see this guy again. I like the pose and details, and I agree side poses are hard. For some reason I've been having a lot of trouble with legs lately (unless the subject is sitting down).
I like his boots to!
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-10 00:10:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, self defense and fighting for others when they need it. He became a pugilist to protect himself and his brother from bullying when they were kids. It's because he is cursed with his phoenix blood just like Eron, only his is energy transfer. His blood automatically causes energy that either pulsates throughout or drains the surrounding area. Sometimes his very life cannot be sustained without energy drain from other living beings. Therefore he is seen as life and death for many people. This caused him to harbor feelings of guilt, so if anything, he tries to avoid causing additional pain and lives his life trying to heal, not hurt.
OH NO!!! Not a lazy editor!! Hopefully they're always around to help you with ideas?
I kinda like that!! But I'm going to avoid too much black if possible. Eron's garb is pretty much all black....but then again if they are twins maybe I could do something interesting....like, here's what the color black looks when evil, and here's what it looks like when it is not.
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-20 21:14:05 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, but a better idea would be that the phoenixes are a parasitic intergalactic species, born randomly from supernovas. Their primary goal is using the energy of life as a food source (since there's nothing like it), so when one is a baby, it uses its power to help cultivate life for a planet, in the form of its core. Then one day, when the life forms are enlightened enough, or when there is an over abundance, they emerge from the planet and destroy the planet and all its life on it, reaping all of the energy. Adult phoenix may then go out and find non-phoenix life on non-infested planets and destroy them too partly for power and partly for jealousy. They want to prove to themselves and other species that they are the top of the food chain in the universe, and destroy anything that could someday be a threat to them. Then when its time to nest, they pick a suitable area and infest/create infested planets and the cycle continues.
I'll maybe make Discord an exception. He was also an adult phoenix who went out and destroyed life on other planets, feasting on their energy. But when he created the solar system, he fell in love with the life on earth. But there were some points that, in his rage, he'd cause mass extinctions on earth. Like with humanity and the way he nearly destroyed them all.
His love for life on earth, which for phoenix-kind means "food", and the extinctions on earth he caused, made his phoenix son within earth feel threatened. After all, Discord not only was stealing his food but as well was betraying the phoenix mindset by loving life. Plus, having hybrid children was enough of a sin....
So yeah, maybe I'll take this route instead
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-22 21:22:14 +0000 UTC]
LOL!!! I'm so numb to terrifying things...I forget that I can never show any of my ideas to small children! And, oh yes it is, lol. I loooove birds. If I make more stories I'll always try and incorporate them somehow....
Thank you! I think I'm going this route too. And, about the phoenixes betraying the mindset.....only Discord has loved life so far. Pretty much the rest of phoenix kind destroys planets upon their birth and repeats this cycle, without any regard for life at all. Very few, like Miyako and Discord, have learned to cheat the system by killing more life to extend their own lives. And the more times they do this, the more powerful and intelligent they become. Discord was the worst offender of this and he was so intelligent. He saw how beautiful Earth was and began to love life. Now all the other phoenixes look down on him because he started loving what is known as food to them, lol.
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-23 21:12:36 +0000 UTC]
LOLOL!!! Discord was kinda clueless with emotions and feelings. He would be all confused and not understand why his heart beated so fast. Then when his girl came onto him he could be putting his hands up in front, like, do whatever you want, I don't even know what's going on....lol
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Zekehimberry95 In reply to CrownedHarpia [2014-09-23 22:50:08 +0000 UTC]
Lol...even a powerful being like Discord can't resist the touch of a woman!
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-18 23:17:51 +0000 UTC]
Prepare for a tldr, lol...
The energy pulsating is still something I'm not sure about but it's the best I have so far I kinda like how it parallels with Eron's abilities, where he can't control his powers but those abilities can be used for good or evil
Yeah? Thank you! I can't help myself when it comes to powers in the blood. I'll explain after a bit but first, backstory!! lol....you're thinking "aw crap"....
So the plan is, everything in the universe is, and is controlled by the life and death of phoenixes. Every planet is a baby phoenix (the core of it, at least. The planet itself is the shell). Every star is a freshly mature phoenix. Since baby phoenix eggs are typically planets, they are then, obviously, born from the destruction of said planets, but they can also be born randomly in the remains of a supernova. It all depends on the needs of the universe and how fast a "quota" needs to be met. Although this may change. But anyway!
Some stars go supernova, and when they do, think of it as a phoenix finally reaching the end of its life, burning to death, then spreading its ash for more babies to be born or for it to reincarnate. When a phoenix in my story goes supernova, it becomes a higher power phoenix, which is then capable of creating its own solar systems or possibly even galaxies with the leftover ash (pretty much a nesting ground). Discord is one of these higher power phoenixes. He went on to create the solar system, his own "nest". So all the planet cores are his children, lol.
The problem, and the reason why he's called Discord, is not only because of the powers he possesses, but also because of a sin he committed against the laws of the universe.
He fell in love with Earth. He protected Earth more and in turn, it was among the most beautiful of planets, proudly hosting life.
Just to mention, since the baby phoenix in earth (let's just call it the earth phoenix) is responsible for providing most of the energy for earth, all life is affiliated, or "related" to the earth phoenix.
Anyways, Discord fell so much in love with his masterpiece, and humanity, he couldn't help but take a human form and join them. But his biggest sin of all was having children with a human (Lucian and Eron). His dalliance, and his violence to humanity later on, caused the earth phoenix to feel hurt at his own dad's betrayal. Betrayal not only to him, but to the natural order of the universe. Therefore, the earth phoenix created anti bodies. Basically he affected certain humans in such a way that caused them to have extraordinary abilities. Although they retain a human nature, they involuntarily sense dangers such as Discord and anyone affiliated with him, and immediately drop what they're doing and kill the danger. Even if they're not aware of it. It's almost as if they get possessed sometimes.
Lucian and Eron are major threats because of this: Phoenixes basically have the power to transfer and control energies, and/or materials necessary for sustaining the universe and life as we know it. And, Lucian and Eron are half blood phoenixes....meaning they each have half of a phoenix's full power. Even at half they could completely dominate whatever they feel like. Pretty much the path Eron took, but because of the presence of anti bodies, Eron was only able to dominate between 60-80% of the Earth, with his massive clone army.
Eron's half is responsible for converting his blood into materials, but he has almost no control over it. Once awakened (I guess, i dunno....once he was almost done with puberty? lol), his phoenix blood immediately went to work. The richness of material/minerals/metals within the blood becomes mass. But, since he's still half human, he's severely affected by it. If he couldn't clone, he'd die immediately from cancer and tumors. The blood is semi-sentient. The conversion process, or in this case, Eron's cloning, leaves him extremely vulnerable. It will often attack on its own if its exposed to air, and its kinda like how jellyfish stingers work, where once contact is made, the nematocysts immediately unleash their stinging threads.
Lucian's half, so far, lol.....is responsible for receiving and providing energy. He as well has little control over it, and it it will only totally affect him and everyone else if he or the environment is damaged. Same thing with him, puberty finished and his blood goes to work. However, he doesn't notice it.....everyone else does. Everyone always either becomes totally depressed or totally happy around him...or in the case of extremes, dead or alive. The way his powers works, is that his phoenix blood has a certain amount of gravity. He is constantly absorbing energy because of this gravity, but at the same time, if the amount of energy "outweighs" the gravity, it is released, like an explosion. If Lucian is suddenly killed, the energy he had behaves as an extreme implosion or explosion, and the actual effect really depends on the way he died or how much energy he had at the time. If he were suddenly killed, at first, the effect is like an explosion, where his energy suddenly leaves to the environment. But his physical body affects the process. So, once the energy leaves, his blood then begins to try and get it back. It will absorb a ton of energy, and if too much, will spit it back out into the environment. This weird undulation will continue until Lucian's blood/body is stable. Besides all of this, there are times where he temporarily contains massive energy, somewhat like critical mass. When he gets more control of himself, he is able to store energy and use it to blind people and give him the strength he needs to fight tough enemies. This idea is still a new work in progress.
So......yeah, lol.
I really can see that you have a passion for creating high schoolers! I think perhaps your dual focus on high school characters and epic characters will help give you ideas for each. For example, maybe drawing more schoolgoers will help you focus on the anatomy, and emotions, but drawing your epic characters will help you focus on design, and unique ideas for powers and such. You really don't need to guilt trip yourself since you have a good thing going on, the way I see it!
My sister sometimes knows, but she's sometimes very busy, and I don't always hear back from her when it comes to ideas and such, so I'll make a journal in the future, that way she can read it on her own time.
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Zekehimberry95 In reply to CrownedHarpia [2014-09-22 11:30:10 +0000 UTC]
Nice backstory of your universe, it sounds like some sort of traditional tale that people would believe back in ancient times. Really cool! So, some of this may be out of order lol but here it goes.
You mention he is called Discord because of the sins he committed, but by who? The people of the planet? Other Phoenixes? I'm interested to know, but at the same time like the mysteriousness of it.
Do the people of the planet know about the whole phoenix thing? About their planet being an egg? It would be interesting how they would even find that out, and would surely cause nutjob doomsday people to go on about their planet "hatching" at any moment lol.
The earth phoenix is saddened by the betrayal of Discord. So while in the egg, the phoenix is a sentient being? The antibody bit was really interesting as well. It could make for some creepy moments in the story.
With all this Phoenix stuff now, is it still called White Crow? (I'm hoping I am really remembering the title correctly lol)
Lucian reaching critical mass immediately made me think of him being able to release energy in blasts for attacking, can he do that?
Sorry for all the questions
I could see them helping each other out. I don't draw armored guys nearly as much, but I can definitely draw them a lot better now lol. I just can't help but to feel guilty for not doing stories, as it is ultimately what I want to do. I actually burned myself out from drawing this weekend...that never happened before! My brother wanted to keep going and I wanted to play videogames...we switched roles. It was really odd lol. I just can't bring myself to do the extra work of writing and doing panel work lately.
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CrownedHarpia In reply to Zekehimberry95 [2014-09-22 21:42:46 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I liked the old folklore feeling...but I'm going to take a different route since I don't want phoenixes to be too omnipotent. I'll keep most of the ideas though, but them being all the stars and planets seems too OP!
Discord is named this by phoenixes, originally, but all the anti-bodies called him this name too since they're affiliated with the earth phoenix. The earth phoenix can't tell them things directly but can make its antibodies feel or act a certain way. So eventually the name gets passed down to humanity. Fitting too, considering he made enemies on both sides...
Humanity doesn't actually know their planet contains a parasite, but they know about the antibodies. Every time Discord attacked, or when Eron did later on, the antibodies would automatically drop what they were doing and respond. People sorta knew something was going on but weren't sure what. So instead of getting too into it, most would either avoid antibodies (because every time they appeared it meant some danger was around), or believe they were deities sent by God to protect them. LOLOL!!!! OMG I so want to draw that....these psychos on the road saying "THE DAY OF THE HATCHING IS NIGH!!"
The phoenix is sentient, but not interactive, and mostly unaware. It received some of its intelligence from Discord but since it's still developing, it can't do anything on its own. Imagine your own body with its own immune system. When a disease or foreign body enters, you may not really even be aware, yet your immune system immediately responds. Earth and its people are like the immune system, and the real body supplying the earth with energy is the phoenix. The phoenix knows of Discord since Discord is its parent, but can't know everything that happens on its egg, so antibodies, humans with mild phoenix traits/powers, fight for it until its ready to hatch. The only way you can even begin to communicate with the earth phoenix is if you were part phoenix yourself. Otherwise, it doesn't even know you exist, and vice versa.
It is technically but I REEEEEALY wanna change it. My original ideas changed so much that White Crow hardly fits.
I think what matters is, you're definitely having fun drawing all these characters as I can see, so don't feel too guilty. I'm the opposite. I have all these ideas, and write them out, but I don't draw much. I definitely feel guilty but I think I'm having more fun now thinking of the potential. Maybe you can draw for your bro, if he has ideas. Kind of a joint project thing. So that you guys can continue doing what you love
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Zekehimberry95 In reply to CrownedHarpia [2014-09-23 12:23:31 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, well I would say it would depend on how you present the phoenixes. Of course they would seem OP if they were that story’s “gods” for example, but gods are supposed to be all powerful and stuff. It does make things seem helpless though when a phoenix could come by any day and destroy the planet lol. I have to say, I very much like the idea of intergalactic phoenixes. Instead of the classic firebird, I am picturing Discord as this black and white flowing being and it’s awesome.
I see, interesting. That picture would be funny though
Nice to see you putting all the knowledge to work! Now if only we could make things like algebra not feel so useless…lol. The cool part about the planet being an egg as well is how in reality we don’t know much about the earth’s core and how everything just so happens to be perfectly balanced. I will definitely keep an eye out on that journal to stay updated on what stays and what goes.
Just find a way to make White Crow work with the new story. It could have a symbolic meaning, or just be the name of the evil/good organization (I don’t know, just spit balling). A shameless plug example is how my brother and I have a story called Duskheart. It’s the name of a pretty glowing flower and it’s symbolic to the love and bond between the two main characters. We got tired of naming stories after the main characters . And after typing all that I just noticed you said you really want to change it, not keep it lol. I'm sure you'll come up with an appropriate title, or make the old one work.
We kind of did that for a while! The Katie comic was his idea and I helped ink and color it. I also sketched out six pages of a comic (using some of his characters) but we both wrote the script. A lot of it is a matter of motivation, which we both lack atm.
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Dask01 [2014-09-08 04:36:52 +0000 UTC]
He is adorable. xD Looking at him, without the name I thought it was Eron for a second, but they are twins after all. Though I should have known, he looks WAY too happy to be Eron. xD
I love how his hair makes it look like he has antenna!
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Dask01 In reply to CrownedHarpia [2014-09-09 23:08:03 +0000 UTC]
I think you did a good job.
Yeah that is a bit ironic, but when I think of Eron I always imagine an evil smirk or a sinister look where as thinking of Lucian I think of a more earnest look. To be honest I think this is the first time I've seen a drawing of yours were the character actually looks genuinely happy lol.
It's good that you left them down. It will act as a great identifying factor due to their twin-ness lol.
That would be fun xD
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SakuraNights [2014-09-07 05:46:34 +0000 UTC]
He kinda reminds me of a pokemon trainer! X) I like this!
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CrownedHarpia In reply to SakuraNights [2014-09-07 11:04:16 +0000 UTC]
LOL! I was thinking more college student/hipster/hippie but I can totally see that now!! With the gloves and messenger bag....
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