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19mate98 In reply to ??? [2017-11-04 21:01:12 +0000 UTC]

They were real soulmates, but not in love. Their connection was like they were twins, or something like that. Revan's love was Bastila

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t-rex989 In reply to 19mate98 [2017-11-23 06:01:42 +0000 UTC]

So what was Meetra’s relationship with Malak like?

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DancinFox In reply to VoadorChama [2015-03-20 07:57:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!)

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Sparduck117 In reply to sp1218 [2013-03-29 04:59:28 +0000 UTC]

to bad swotor threw them under the bus

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sp1218 In reply to Sparduck117 [2013-04-01 01:53:21 +0000 UTC]

that's why i hate that game

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Sparduck117 In reply to sp1218 [2013-04-01 02:53:23 +0000 UTC]

Xenocide from earlier wasn't revan just like how HK-47 isn't HK -50 you just can't twist him like that

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RuslanLarin92 In reply to Sparduck117 [2013-09-06 23:09:42 +0000 UTC]

Pardon, I know it's an old comment, but still... What do you mean by twisting him? Whom, HK or Revan? 

As for HK-50, he's from KOTOR-2. TOR has HK-51 and he also has nothing to do with HK-47. If you mean that HK-47 is the best among them, I totally agree though.

As for Revan I personally think that him attempting a genocide of the Sith fits the character. I mean, it's the same person who ordered the destruction of Malachor V, which wiped out most Madalorians (in KOTOR-2 HK-47 refers to it as nearly genocidal) and sacrificed thousands of Republicans. In TOR he takes no pride in starting new genocide, but as before he believes that sometimes sacrifices have to be made (we are talking about Vitiate consuming entire galaxy and then moving for new ones. Basically the universe might be at stake).

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Sparduck117 In reply to RuslanLarin92 [2013-09-08 14:12:13 +0000 UTC]

By twisting genocide I mean asides from Malachor (primarily a conversion tool to his side) he wasn't going around bombing planets like Malak, revan was more of a tactical genius. Malak was brute force like genocide. Revan was more cunning he was leaving infer structure intact in his actions as so to rebuild quickly to fight the true Sith. And during the madalorian wars he was using gurreilla tactics to wear the mandalorians down. So Malachor V destruction still had a use besides victory. This revan seems hell bent on beating the emperor by what else wiping out his race. When an easy alternitave would be inform the Sith of the of his nature and suddenly the emperor has the full might of the republic and empire going against him

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RuslanLarin92 In reply to Sparduck117 [2013-09-16 02:08:45 +0000 UTC]

I see what you mean, but I still don't mind the way he is in TOR. The info on him in the game hints that he became even darker after the stasis. Just think about this: Revan just wanted to finish all this, this war that started over 1000 ago (when Vitiate became the immortal emperor), that was the cause of the Mandalorian Wars and Revan's turn into a Sith Lord (whether out of necessity or not), leaded to him losing some of best friends (Meetra, T3, Alek) made it so that he didn't even meet own son and beloved wife ever again; and he had to finish it before Vitiate proceeds with consuming more planets and becoming unstoppable. You know, if I was Revan, I'd be pretty pissed off about all this too. Plus, you say that he could tell the Sith about Vitiate, but remember that for the Sith Emperor was a god-like savior, who saved them from "bad Jedi" and now is doing justice, and those who knew about his plans also were blindly following their leader believing all the b.s. he was feeding them. Revan on the other hand was known to majority of Sith as a traitor, so convincing the Empire would at least take  A LOT of time, not something the Republic had. If Revan knew the real motives of Scourge then he might have followed the Hero of Tython, but since he didn't...

Bioware indeed have taken him aside to make a way for new characters, but I don't that the way they did it was that bad.

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Sparduck117 In reply to RuslanLarin92 [2013-09-16 03:30:27 +0000 UTC]

So your telling me they killed the exile who killed a planet eater before and changed revans morality to fight a planet eater who still has his will. In continuity with the incredibly weak writing of revan in this game. He still was a legendary leader. He should have had millions of followers the second he showed his face. He could have gotten a small republic stole fleet to attack the emperors station and sent it crashing from orbit. Then the fleets could send a Jedi strike force lead by revan to kill him. The hero could have even been at revans side fighting the emperor with him giving us kotor fans closure with what was once the greatest rpg character of all time and still have their mmo.

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RuslanLarin92 In reply to Sparduck117 [2013-09-22 16:54:02 +0000 UTC]

Nihilus is a diferent story, Force vacuum and all. Only the Exile could kill him because their connection is similar. But that's not the main point (she was backstabbed, has nothing to do with power. Darth Plageus was killed in sleep and all the power was useless). When I heard that Revan was in the TOR, I was hoping that we get to work with him as well. I thought that being a great leader i the past and now regaining the memories, he'd become a Republic general once again, maybe would be giving the Hero quest, knowing so much about Vitiate and "war business". So am I, as a KOTOR fan, disappointed in what Bioware did? Yes. I'd like Revan to play bigger role. But many people who never played KOTOR wouldn't, and games are business, you can't please fanboys too much because the rest will be going "huh? who's that dude? why all attention to him and not me?".  Were there ways to do all this better? Sure. Were there ways to make worse? Of course. With what we got, I try to be positive and say that I'd rather have Revan being the savior of the Republic for 300+ years and providing more plot development (with the Foundry, Revanites, Darth Malgus, etc), then getting killed of by Vitiate 300 years before TOR, achieving nothing (some people do). Karpyshyn said if they feel like he's needed back in TOR (for their story, not just for fanboys), they'll bring him back.

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Sparduck117 In reply to RuslanLarin92 [2013-09-25 20:31:47 +0000 UTC]

But spiting in the face of fans isn't good business either. TOR is just showing how far bioware quality has fallen in the last few years. They would have pleased everyone if when they brooke revan out he became a republic commander and an active ally for the protagonist. He would have been a great addition to the story. Steele shan could have had a great relationship plot with her great grandpa giving the players something to resolve with a quest. or my personal favorite situation with revan and the player, he gets revenge on the sith that killed the exile and you can choose to talk him out of it on aid him in it. I think it would have been perfect to have revan the the protagonist team up on the assault on the emperor's station.That action would have given proper closure to old fans and satisfaction to new fans. Bioware need to remember until the book revan came out and someone encountered revan in the game the fanboys were the ones most exited for the old republic.

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RuslanLarin92 In reply to Sparduck117 [2014-11-25 20:29:02 +0000 UTC]

Damn. It's been over a year (don't ask). So, um... Yeah, agree.

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Joshmoe93 In reply to Sparduck117 [2014-07-25 21:45:20 +0000 UTC]

Hopefully, Disney will do SOMETHING new for Revan, since they seemed to scrap everything that isn't the movies or the two animated TV series (Clone Wars and Rebels). I'm hoping at least they bring back Revan in a spin off movie, or even better, an HBO-like tv show, and they give him a better ending than they did in TOR. I know, farfetched and all, but what can a man do besides hope?

And I don't blame Bioware for all the things wrong with their newer works, I also blame EA for putting quantity over quality, and driving companies like DICE and Bioware into the ground.

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sp1218 In reply to Sparduck117 [2013-07-22 00:56:54 +0000 UTC]

agreed

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