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UltraLiThematic [2015-12-23 03:13:45 +0000 UTC]
It's nice to see Loui again.
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DarkAsteria In reply to Quazar501 [2015-12-14 12:47:29 +0000 UTC]
Actually there are still vibrations inside the particle. I am on mobile, so I can't send you links now, but at zero Kelvin there is still energy left, so called Zero Point energy hence atoms will vibrate, though it's veeeery weak. Zero point energy is the minimum amount of energy matter can have (lowest energy state). It's got something to do with conversion of energy; I am sure you will find a lot of interesting things about that (google zero point motion). Didn't knew this myself until few months ago when I watched a vid about quantum cooling.
Those are the kind of things you learn in school in a simplified version, so I guess that phrase may sound very incorrect without better phrasing. I may expand on the physics shit once I have the first draft of the story completed. Which may take some time *cough*
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Quazar501 In reply to DarkAsteria [2015-12-14 17:39:05 +0000 UTC]
Fancy! *-*
I'm curious for more physics shit! ^-^
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DarkAsteria In reply to Quazar501 [2015-12-15 18:03:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, that's pretty much what magic in my story is :3 Hence Loui is both a magician and a scientist.
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Quazar501 In reply to DarkAsteria [2015-12-15 19:29:58 +0000 UTC]
But the fundamental principle of science is that anything can be described and repeatedly verified anywhere in the universe, while magic has to outcast those fundamental principles in some way, otherwhise it would be science too. I don't think magic and science can get along each other that well...
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DarkAsteria In reply to Quazar501 [2015-12-16 16:37:18 +0000 UTC]
you are contradicting yourself, since you quoted Clarke's third law in the first place (and that's what i was referring to with my comment).
Since we are disputing from the angle of fictional stories and not reality (where magic is no thing, unless we talk about the days when science was considered occultism, which have been long gone): I’d say it depends. In my story magic is definitely some kind of science/technology. The setting is an alternate universe of our own; history has taken different courses and there is a seemingly magical (because yet unexplainable) power that enables you to manipulate your surroundings.
I can understand where you are coming from, but I feel you are too fixated on over explaining things. To me, disputing whether or not something called magic is actually science in a work of fiction is nerdy cherry picking. In its most basic understanding both magic and technology are tools to manipulate matter for a certain purpose/outcome. Of course the difference is, that in regular technology we have a good understanding how it works. In magic we probably don’t. Plus: there are so many magic systems and ways to bend physical laws in fiction it's really hard to say where science and magic begin or end. So I think they can go along very well with each other (see science fantasy); it's a matter of your setting and how well you explain things. Also i never bought it that magic always has to be purely supernatural and unexplainable; in a post-industrialized world where magic exists someone must have at least thought of studying it. And as you say: everything can be explained. It's only a matter of whether or not we humans have the capacities to understand it (and that's what Clarke also meant with “advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
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DarkAsteria In reply to Quazar501 [2015-12-17 13:14:15 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, I didn't want to talk you down. Sometimes I get too much into writing walls of words, hups
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