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Description I'm reworking Talon with V4 because the limits of V3 are getting on my nerves. And this was NOT fun. Unfortunately my images are obsessions that i can't not work on so I must do their bidding.
So this is what I've come up with so far. I like the body much better, it bends and reacts alot better with less flaws, plus this one looks more athletic like she would look after jumping and fighting and doing all sorts of acrobatics. Anyway the thing I always hated about V4 was the face, it never looks real it seems, and this is no exception, this is as close to her face as I could get it, and it's still not quite right. No need to tell me what needs to be adjusted I already know what isn't right, the problem is the way the face is meshed I can't get it the same. It's close but not exact. So, the question is, does it looks enough like the old Talon the you all could get used to it, or should I just scrap it and be done with it? Let me know

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plagueisidious [2013-01-30 04:16:39 +0000 UTC]

Overall

Vision

Originality

Technique

Impact


the tattoos help illustrate that she is not just a pretty girl, but a sith. the force lightning helps illustrate that she is powerful. The fact that she is nude helps communicate that she considers herself to be perfect, and too great to be covered up. Her facial expression says that she is totally apathetic and disconnected with whatever pain or destruction that her force lightning is causing. Her posture says that there is no threat great enough to intimidate her, and that she is completely in control. She does not even need to fully extend her arm or fingers to deal with whatever she is casting lightning upon, which means it is so far beneath her as to be barely worth her attention. However, talon is also an alien, a twi'lek, but her head tails are not shown here to help light this additional fact. Although, there is a different picture by this artist of talon sitting in a chair with one of her head tails resting across her chest, which means the artist is fully aware of this and simply chose not to show her head tails in this picture. The artist obviously has an extremely high opinion of darth talon, because he has made her look like an arrogant goddess looking down upon ants. This high opinion of her is probably why the artist did so much work to make the picture look as incredibly realistic as it does.
vision, it is obvious that the artist is able to see her in more than just two dimensions, but as a realistic three dimensional creature. And the fact that there is nothing in the background helps draw the eye to the subtlety that lies in the character instead, and the subtlety of the facial expression and body posture shows that the picture is more sophisticated than just a naked female, even though there is nothing wrong with naked females.
originality, a nude female is not necessarily original, but a three dimensional looking one is.
technique, this is the highest of all, because the image is extremely realistic. There is more than just height and width, but depth to the picture, literally and metaphorically.
Impact, a beautiful naked female, even an alien one, is always going to have a huge impact, so i am forced to give a high rating. However, the bone structure to her face looks almost Brazilian, but there is nothing necessarily wrong with that, it just needed to be mentioned.

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Pyromania101 [2012-09-12 04:32:48 +0000 UTC]

Overall

Vision

Originality

Technique

Impact


Normally, I would simply make a quick review about how "excellent" a picture on this site is if it catches my attention, but this deserves more than a simple "awesome" and whatnot. The figure is flawlessly proportioned, and the fact that Talon is nude in this and that her crotch is not featured prominently is a relief. The addition of a small use of Force Lightning is also a nice touch, reminding the viewer that, while Darth Talon is very beautiful, her beauty is surpassed by her power and malevolence. This is truly a DeviantArt masterpiece, and is one of the best Darth Talon pictures I have ever seen, maybe the best. I sincerely thank the artist for giving this to us.

Respectfully,
Pyromania101

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LETMESEEBEUTY In reply to Pyromania101 [2015-02-07 02:17:03 +0000 UTC]

I wish I could retract that unfair statement

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ninjamasterc [2016-03-13 18:55:34 +0000 UTC]

She like doing it naked.

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darthhell In reply to ninjamasterc [2016-03-16 00:54:44 +0000 UTC]

Definitely

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LETMESEEBEUTY [2015-02-07 02:14:43 +0000 UTC]

Gorgeous and powerfully sexy artwork

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spartan494 [2014-12-26 23:40:11 +0000 UTC]

My opinion is that your work keeps getting better and better. Out of curiosity what kind of resolution would this picture need to be for a lifeΒ size poster? If it's possible do you have the ability to produce the poster? And most important how much would you want for it?

Keep the pics Talon coming bro, no one else captures her as well as you do.

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darthhell In reply to spartan494 [2014-12-27 05:24:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Well for a good quality print it should be at least 4000px on the short side.Β  But I never render the Talon images that big because due to copyright reasons I can't offer them as prints.Β  So these are the full size for her.

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Korteis [2013-10-30 00:28:17 +0000 UTC]

I suppose I am one of the only people who doesn't have nothing but praise for this. While I do admit the work is pretty well done(and yes I know this is an older image of your's and I have viewed your newer ones of her), there are noticeable differences between it and your older works such as Nice Try that personally cause me to dislike this new rendition.




First and foremost, the reason her face looks different, even in your newer images, is because of the 'liquid skin' shine you have going for her. The older Talon looked like she had actual skin that was rather healthy and had a decent degree of light reflection. This new method of your's makes it seem as if instead of skin she has a plastic polymer coating her body or she is made out of liquid metal. I remember reading a comment you replied to saying you liked it more because it adds a kind of 'fantasy' vibe to it, which I think is great, but sacrificing realism and organic feel for a 'fantasy' and more inorganic shininess, to me, is a detractor more than a benefactor.

Back to the face and why the skin is the reason it looks different from her older face. The older face had a more organic blend with the bridge of her nose into the rest of her face, where as her T-1000 skin in strip sabacc makes the narrow bridge of her nose really stand out and set apart from the rest of her face, that alone making a noticeable impact on how different the new face is from her old one.

The glowing robot shine skin also cancels out the shadows that used to sit under her cheekbones, making her face look a little more flat and angular, getting rid of the smooth and flowing look her face had in your older works. Honestly, Nice Try is an amazing example to use for facial comparison between your old and new Talon.


Getting passed the liquid, lighthouse spot-light illuminated skin, it is obvious that for the new Talon you decreased the size of the lower lip, which used to be the larger of the two, and significantly increased the size of her upper lip, making it the dominant one. It altered the kind of cute, condescending and smirking look she had, trading it instead for the more upset and stuck up look she has now. Her face in tattooing is the best and closest to her older face than any of your newest works, though that is probably because her face isn't shining like a cop is holding a flashlight right in her face.


Finally: the nipples..... Well, to be honest, they do not really look like nipples, as they did in Talon Slave Leia Pose, where the areola was slightly raised but still mostly level with the curve of the breast instead of protruding almost an inch upwards from the breast, ending in a tiny little nipple that points off of the tip of the huge, cone-like areola. Of your newest works, face of doom was the best in texture, even if it was the worst in how peaked of a snow cone cup it appears to be. They really changed her breasts from being a full and supple breast with a nipple to being banana boobs with big Hersey's Kisses on top of them.


Last but not least, the really vibrant and darker red tone used for her skin further compounded on making her look more T-1000-style and less like a living, organic creature.


In short, if you drop back to the older orange-red skin tone, significantly reduce the severely over-polished counter-top 'skin' she has, shift some of the sizing from her upper lip back into her lower lip and lower how much height her areolas have, I feel she should come out looking incredibly similar if not exactly like V3 Talon.

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darthhell In reply to Korteis [2013-10-30 03:23:41 +0000 UTC]

It's funny to me to read the different opinions.Β  I used to get a lot of complaints on the orange skin tone, people kept telling me it should be more red.Β  I'll have to check the lower lip thing, I know I have modified the face greatly since this image, but that might be the thing that still isn't quite right.Β  I still haven't got the face exactly the way I used to like it.Β  Interestingly enough though, the other things you suggest as fixes are things I never really liked about the old model.Β  Personally I love the shiny plastic look, that's why I made her that way, and I thought she needed a more athletic look which tightened everything up, and I love Hershey Kiss nipples .Β  That's another reason I switched to V4, V3's body just wouldn't do what I wanted, and now V4's face won't do what I want.Β  Ahhh well, such is life I suppose.

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YungJuni [2013-04-21 20:11:54 +0000 UTC]

I remember this pic from way back. I fell in love wit this render way before I knew you were the artists. I just have to say great job man and keep up the awesome work.

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darthhell In reply to YungJuni [2013-04-22 14:55:00 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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chrelle [2013-04-21 07:38:55 +0000 UTC]

Higher/wider forehead, lower eyebrow arch, slightly wider nose and mouth. I think that will get the evil back.
The new face looks slightly bemused or puzzled, more cheerleader-like.
I'm not an artist so I really don't know anything, it's just my impression from comparing old and new images.
The only really important thing here is, DON'T STOP MAKING TALON IMAGES!

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darthhell In reply to chrelle [2013-04-22 14:53:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, she's been fixed now

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plagueisidious [2013-01-30 03:42:59 +0000 UTC]

the tattoos help illustrate that she is not just a pretty girl, but a sith. the force lightning helps illustrate that she is powerful. The fact that she is nude helps illustrate that she considers herself to be perfect, and is too great to be covered up. However, she is also an alien, a twi'lek, but her head tails are not shown here to help light this additional fact. Although, there is a different picture by this artist of talon sitting in a chair with one of her head tails resting across her chest, which means the artist is fully aware of this and simply chose not to show her head tails in this picture.

Plagueisidious

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darthhell In reply to plagueisidious [2013-01-30 15:33:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the comments and critique, very nicely written. You pretty much nailed it on the way I perceive Talon. It's a funny thing about the Twi'leks and the head tails, since they are a distinguishing feature of the race we almost feel we have to show them all the time in some nice posing or position as though they are the focus or to make them obvious, but in reality they may be out of sight at certain angles. But there are times when I just drape them down the back and resist the urge to show them off.

Thank you

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Midway2009 [2013-01-06 04:23:26 +0000 UTC]

What a beautiful posture!

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darthhell In reply to Midway2009 [2013-01-07 16:49:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Midway2009 In reply to darthhell [2013-01-07 17:28:51 +0000 UTC]

your welcome

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femelushka [2012-12-29 20:03:02 +0000 UTC]

awesome

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EvilEliot [2012-11-23 02:37:08 +0000 UTC]

Magnificent work

realy great texture i like it a lot, are you interested to share, i have a lot of freebies made by me, you could download them on my blog take a look [link] , i have starwars clothes to, starkiller and light sabers.

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darthhell In reply to EvilEliot [2012-11-26 15:50:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you
I'll definitely check out your blog.

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EvilEliot In reply to darthhell [2012-12-03 05:06:04 +0000 UTC]

Thanx, im realy interested on your talon textures, keep in touch.

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spacezillazon [2012-10-29 18:56:48 +0000 UTC]

I think you have a so close face depiction of her face so I say keep this look of her face.so super hot and sexy well posed and body tattoos,nice refection too

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darthhell In reply to spacezillazon [2012-10-30 14:30:09 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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spacezillazon In reply to darthhell [2012-10-30 16:00:42 +0000 UTC]

your welcome

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jules1278 [2012-09-20 06:34:40 +0000 UTC]

As always, huge fan of yours... love this!! keep up the amazing work..

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darthhell In reply to jules1278 [2012-09-23 17:07:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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jancz89 [2012-08-24 20:15:49 +0000 UTC]

I think the muscles were more realistic in the old one O.o her skin is too shiny no? and the nipples too pointy.... please don't shoot me...

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jancz89 In reply to jancz89 [2012-08-26 09:08:32 +0000 UTC]

maybe she is just cold (pointy nipples) she needs a hug ....

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darthhell In reply to jancz89 [2012-08-26 03:28:24 +0000 UTC]

Nah I wouldn't shoot you I like the feedback. I usually go for a more shiny skin look, I think it gives it more a fantasy feel. And the pointy nipples, that was just a mood I was in I do that sometimes.

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CerebralAperture [2012-08-23 20:52:40 +0000 UTC]

I like the face of the old talon better but I certainly prefer the body of the new Talon. I agree that it works much better.

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darthhell In reply to CerebralAperture [2012-08-26 03:21:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Valerian12 [2012-08-11 15:47:33 +0000 UTC]

The best Talon-pic I have ever seen. Absolutely great.

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darthhell In reply to Valerian12 [2012-08-13 02:20:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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jules1278 [2012-06-20 00:39:13 +0000 UTC]

I absolutely think you are brilliant at creating the perfect "Darth Talon" photos. Well done.. Keep up the amazing work.

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darthhell In reply to jules1278 [2012-06-20 15:38:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you and I definitely will

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tankmasterp [2012-05-28 07:52:16 +0000 UTC]

I like the older Talon better she just seemed more seductive. However, this Talon is beautiful. I definately wouldn't scrap it but I would like to see more like the old pictures.

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darthhell In reply to tankmasterp [2012-05-29 02:34:58 +0000 UTC]

Well I've been tweaking here and there with the new Talon, I think she's looking more like her old self. I'll have to post some new ones soon

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j3f3rs0n [2012-05-21 04:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Hot and sexy girl!

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darthhell In reply to j3f3rs0n [2012-05-21 20:15:09 +0000 UTC]

Yes she is

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A3Kitsune [2012-05-20 08:49:14 +0000 UTC]

I like.

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TheChainmailChick [2012-04-27 05:09:35 +0000 UTC]

I know there was a question somewhere in here but NAKED TALON DEMANDS MY ATTENTION.

(I really love her muscle-y ness, it makes her look even more badass.)

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darthhell In reply to TheChainmailChick [2012-04-27 15:04:22 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Yeah the ripped tone look definitely works I think

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dejesusscott [2012-04-25 22:54:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes. It does look like da old Talon. Please don't scap it... It's looks real good and plus you really need to be bored if any one has any complaints yo... Please keep on working wit dis Talon if you can. Great works all da way around yo. Very detailed...

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darthhell In reply to dejesusscott [2012-04-26 14:31:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Yeah I'm keeping her, she's working out well

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dejesusscott In reply to darthhell [2012-04-27 08:46:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'm glad dat you're keeping her. Thanks for da great works you have done.... Have a great weekend yo.

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Belfar [2012-04-24 13:50:59 +0000 UTC]

Awesome as always and that from someone that doesn't like Star Wars lol.. Can't help but keep coming back just to see some more amazing pics of her

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darthhell In reply to Belfar [2012-04-24 15:45:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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xXKyngXx [2012-04-16 17:47:54 +0000 UTC]

Hey it looks good! I just think the right eye just seems out of perspective, other than that it looks just bout right.

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