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Description I was getting suggestion withdrawal symptoms after so long away from them!



At present, the deviantART beta tester program pretty much runs off the forums - providing the only area for announcement, discussion and feedback on beta features. And to be quite honest... the system doesn't work all that well Bug reports get swamped in a sea of "OMG this is so cool!!!" comments and before you know it, the admins have to search through several thousand comments of assorted usefulness just to find the bugs people are talking about

This system is intended to replace both of the Beta Tester forums, and provide a much more structured approach to dA beta testing!

  • This dedicated page would take on the role of containing all the beta tester utilities in one place.

  • Each beta project has its own main heading, which is clickable to reveal further details (as shown above with "New Profile Pages").

  • The "beacons" in front of each main heading indicate the current status of that project:
    • Green - The project is in beta and the user has it turned on
    • Yellow - The project is in beta and the user does not have it turned on
    • Red - The project is on hold or is no longer in beta (but has only been recently released to the public)

  • Within each section there is a description and two further sub-sections, one for bug reports and one for suggestions. These work similarly to the forums, except now the reports and suggestions are kept apart from each other and a new voting system is in place.

  • Each bug report and suggestion has a number - the higher the number, the more positive votes it has recieved. But Dave, why have a voting system on bug reports?! If lots of people are experiencing the same bug, it's going to reach the top (and thus the attention of the developers) pretty quickly!

  • If a stupid suggestion, duplicate suggestion or already known bug is submitted, if a bug is fixed, or if a suggestion is implimented, the voting can be locked down and the suggestion/bug report removed from the list.

  • The number of votes is hidden until the suggestion/bug report has recieved more than 30 votes in total either way.

  • This shows the suggestions in collapsed overview form, but the same view options are available as are in the message centre for comments, using the buttons at the top right.

  • Additions and updates to this page would be sent to a new section of beta testers' message centres, to make them more noticable than posting a notice in the current forum (added by =eXoHeartbeat )


No more "Where do I turn on _________ beta feature?", no more "Where do I go to give my feedback?" and no more bug reports in the wrong place

How spiffingly marvellous! Now we just need work out a way to beta test the beta test page...

For those of you interested in the current system, check out:
FAQ #531: What is an Official deviantART Beta Tester? How do I become one?
FAQ #532: As an Official Beta Tester, how do I provide feedback?
FAQ #541: If I'm a beta tester, may I choose to opt-out of the program later?



Credit also to `electricjonny , who talked over some of the ideas with me in the forum
Concept ideas ©2009 =davecheesefish
Everything else © deviantART, Inc.
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Comments: 52

DextriuX [2009-12-22 00:06:00 +0000 UTC]

Deviant-ness at it's best.

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Davecheesefish In reply to DextriuX [2009-12-29 11:21:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Pyritie [2009-11-25 01:50:58 +0000 UTC]

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Davecheesefish In reply to Pyritie [2009-11-26 22:16:30 +0000 UTC]

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DEVlANT [2009-09-15 06:33:21 +0000 UTC]

i'm adding you to #devBUG so you can see (something like) this in action

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Davecheesefish In reply to DEVlANT [2009-09-15 09:48:00 +0000 UTC]

Ooh my, I've been invite-ificated

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chinaroses [2009-02-04 09:28:58 +0000 UTC]

i like this idea

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FunkyLilith [2009-01-26 15:31:25 +0000 UTC]

*chants* Build it, build it, build it!

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randomduck [2009-01-26 10:19:50 +0000 UTC]

good idea. parsing through forum info is time consuming for sure .. and it'd be nice to give feedback on bug status. out of all beta testers population - how big a slice would be interested in using it? of-the shelf bug tracker wont work and its not a trivial system to build .. and people are buzy

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Freesong In reply to randomduck [2009-05-07 02:18:34 +0000 UTC]

I'd use this system, too. I think it would make it much easier for everyone - tech and beta testers - to do their "job". Let's face it, as busy as you guys are, it's very easy for our comments to go unnoticed or at least without replies, and that can make us feel like we're being ignored. The lack of (noticable) updates also can make us feel like the bugs we report and our concerns for features are going unnoticed/ignored as well, which in turn can discourage us from providing feedback.

That's not any criticism against the tech team, it's just something that's going to happen when you have so many comments to sift through and a limited time to do it in.

I honestly think this would make it easier for both sides, and open up better communication. You wouldn't even have to make a reply (to bug reports, at least), simply check a bug report as "fixed" (maybe with options, though I can't think of alternates except "not actually a bug" XD), and all the beta testers who'd voted/reported that bug could be notified automatically with a simple messaged in their message centre that says something like "Bug Report "Title of Bug Report" Fixed".

Suggestions are obviously another kettle of fish, though, as I think those are more deserving and needing of tech-team responses (in some instances more than others), and I think commenting on suggestions would be great because deviants can often steamroller ideas and end up with something through collaborative brainstorming that's better than the original poster's. But, in many other instances, a simple "I agree!" could be done with the voting system suggested here by =davecheesefish .

I definitely think you'd get more feedback - and probably more useful feedback (cutting out the unnecessary comments) - with something like this. And, you know, people seem to like polls, so they're more likely to vote.

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chinaroses In reply to randomduck [2009-02-04 09:27:04 +0000 UTC]

I would definitely use this.

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Davecheesefish In reply to randomduck [2009-01-26 19:12:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your comments. I understand building this won't be easy by any stretch of the imagination, but I think that not only will it help current beta testers, but new members who join the OBT team as well. We've had a lot of questions throughout the forums asking how to turn on the new userpages lately (during the beta phase), which unfortunately shows that relying on people to check the beta forums regularly just doesn't work well, and isn't entirely intuitive for members who don't usually use the dA forums on a regular basis.

While it may not be entirely accurate for the general beta tester population, I have started a poll on the subject. As it stands at the moment, 12/14 people would rather use this system than the current forum-based one and the comments I have recieved both here on the deviation and on the poll have been extremely supportive.

I believe that a system like this could speed up the future release of beta features to the public, make them easier and more intuitive to find for new OBT team members, reduce duplication of bug reports, and almost autonomously seperate the useful reports from the one-off glitches. While I may be biased as the creator, I truly believe this could be a worthwhile upgrade to the OBT system.

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randomduck In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-30 08:48:34 +0000 UTC]

i really like the idea, and agree that it will make participating in beta program far more engaging and valuable. cant really promise anything, but when we revisit this section we'll keep it in mind for sure.

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Davecheesefish In reply to randomduck [2009-01-30 14:50:31 +0000 UTC]

I fully understand that you can't promise anything, but thanks loads for considering it - even if it doesn't get put into production

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ovengloves [2009-01-25 02:36:10 +0000 UTC]

THE FOOTER.

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Davecheesefish In reply to ovengloves [2009-01-25 02:37:20 +0000 UTC]

What about it?

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ovengloves In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-25 02:39:57 +0000 UTC]

IT'S HIDDEN.

omg.

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Davecheesefish In reply to ovengloves [2009-01-25 02:41:18 +0000 UTC]

Go to any dA userpage and look at the footer - chances are, it'll be like this one

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ovengloves In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-25 02:43:04 +0000 UTC]

I know, mine is too.

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Davecheesefish In reply to ovengloves [2009-01-25 02:44:05 +0000 UTC]

You can't have it expanded on userpages - this is how it looks for all users.

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ovengloves In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-25 02:46:13 +0000 UTC]

opsh.

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fudging [2009-01-23 20:49:18 +0000 UTC]


I'm surprised you didn't put a senior tick to any of your names

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Davecheesefish In reply to fudging [2009-01-23 21:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, I already had the GM ^ and the core admin $ - I didn't want to make it completely unbelievable by making me a senior

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fudging In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-23 21:12:59 +0000 UTC]

Because core admin is more likely?

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Davecheesefish In reply to fudging [2009-01-23 21:24:31 +0000 UTC]

More likely than me being a senior

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hhgm [2009-01-23 08:35:24 +0000 UTC]

great idea!

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Davecheesefish In reply to hhgm [2009-01-23 08:36:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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hhgm In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-23 08:37:59 +0000 UTC]

no problem! hopefully they will roll out with something similar.

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SamChapmanDraws [2009-01-22 21:57:15 +0000 UTC]

That an excellent idea!

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Davecheesefish In reply to SamChapmanDraws [2009-01-22 22:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much!

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parallellogic [2009-01-20 23:54:05 +0000 UTC]

$davecheesefish ftw

Seems like an ok idea, except that it's not as easy for other users to respond to what you have posted with ideas of their own (since the comments appear to be hidden)

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Davecheesefish In reply to parallellogic [2009-01-20 23:56:23 +0000 UTC]

The "__ comments" bit is supposed to be a link to a page where you could comment on it, but I didn't make it very obvious

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StudioHarajuku [2009-01-20 21:13:27 +0000 UTC]

This would be fantastic, I hate having to trawl through the posts in the forum to see if what I am writing hasn't been repeated 50,000 times.

I would love to see this implemented, especially if we can access it as easily as every everything else off our pages.

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kezbabybabe [2009-01-19 23:47:05 +0000 UTC]

It's just how it should be.

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Davecheesefish In reply to kezbabybabe [2009-01-19 23:56:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, it means a lot

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kezbabybabe In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-20 12:18:14 +0000 UTC]

I hope it gets implemented.

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eXoHeartbeat [2009-01-19 17:46:09 +0000 UTC]

I say yes! There should also be updates from the message centre as I hardly check the forum page.

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Davecheesefish In reply to eXoHeartbeat [2009-01-19 17:55:13 +0000 UTC]

I say thanks! I've added your suggestion to the list (with credit)

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eXoHeartbeat In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-19 18:05:31 +0000 UTC]

Hoorah!

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Cmotes [2009-01-19 14:06:37 +0000 UTC]

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Davecheesefish In reply to Cmotes [2009-01-19 16:10:39 +0000 UTC]

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coolmarvin [2009-01-19 11:46:13 +0000 UTC]

I think anything would be better than the current system and this is a fantastic way of dealing with it.

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cybergranny [2009-01-19 10:17:33 +0000 UTC]

Very interesting feature, I think this will help a lot, to know where and what the main bugs are, it will be more easy for the developers, instead of browsing through many comments.

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Davecheesefish In reply to cybergranny [2009-01-19 17:30:15 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comments

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Talescaper [2009-01-19 10:15:58 +0000 UTC]

I agree. This would be so much more effective then the current beta forum.

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chilipalmer [2009-01-19 06:05:54 +0000 UTC]

This is very cool

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Davecheesefish In reply to chilipalmer [2009-01-19 06:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much

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chilipalmer In reply to Davecheesefish [2009-01-19 06:09:41 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome, personally I hope its implemented

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electricjonny [2009-01-19 05:47:36 +0000 UTC]

This is great Would this be a new page you could access from the More Menu at the top of your userpage? Not in any forum I gather?

I sort of like the idea that all beta features and discussion be on one big main page, not in any forum thread. It keeps it more central so the staff can see it easily. Great job here

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Davecheesefish In reply to electricjonny [2009-01-19 05:53:52 +0000 UTC]

It's completely seperate from the forums, yes Acessible from the drop-down next to your username at the top of the screen and (as you said) from the userpage More menu

Thanks very much

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