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Published: 2006-12-14 12:39:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 300; Favourites: 0; Downloads: 4
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Description (Text design updated after great input from [link] Thanks!)

Finally, after several years without a corporate site, it is released.
[link] !
(the navigation won't work since the data to be loaded into the flash are elswhere than DA)

The "intro" are kept very short since I know its frustrating to wait for things to load etc. For the full experience - visit (www.dawnland.com) [link]

All for now.
/Daniel
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Comments: 23

kjell-bolme [2006-12-30 02:56:39 +0000 UTC]

Bravo!! and doesn't look like anything else out there
which is true originality!

We have had problems viewing sites with firefox browser but your's looks ok!, IE seems better for serious viewing even though ff is better security.

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dawnland In reply to kjell-bolme [2007-01-09 11:19:30 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

Have some probems with the logo so it is changing (on the real site) for some weeks.
Don't want to take down the site when it is finally up.

/D

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nico911 [2006-12-17 13:38:56 +0000 UTC]

Good, but u should made a version html.

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dawnland In reply to nico911 [2006-12-18 07:42:55 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps I will make a simple html version someday.
Priority has been to get the site launched to begin with, ha!

For the moment I am burried in work anyway...

Thanks for commenting thou!

/daniel

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nico911 In reply to dawnland [2006-12-18 18:42:03 +0000 UTC]

ok

Good work

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Allyekhrah [2006-12-15 04:47:47 +0000 UTC]

Nifty, congrats : D

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dawnland In reply to Allyekhrah [2006-12-15 07:50:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.
The downloadable fonts are dalayed to sometime during 2007 thou...

/D

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Allyekhrah In reply to dawnland [2006-12-15 10:35:49 +0000 UTC]

and I was already clicking on the squares like an idiot and wondering. xD

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dawnland In reply to Allyekhrah [2006-12-15 14:34:25 +0000 UTC]

(oh... sorry. perhaps I should state the fact that they are not coming right now more clearly... it says only if you hover over the second cirkle below the fonts... thnx for the input.)

thnx.

/daniel

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Allyekhrah In reply to dawnland [2006-12-15 16:52:56 +0000 UTC]

then firefox may be unmerciful :/

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shawkash [2006-12-14 13:14:00 +0000 UTC]

It is good site! I think you need to make the body text bigger in size a little, I don't have big problem in using arial as a body text for a site, as arial looks like helvitca in screens. But I have a big problem with the font of your logo, I am not sure but it looks like a black arial which is really a shitty font.

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2008-04-22 08:39:47 +0000 UTC]

december 14th 2006 you commented my website and logotype.
Have been busy working so I haven't posted anything here for very long.
Update made [link]
(www.dawnland.com)
In case you were interested.

All for now
/Daniel

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shawkash In reply to dawnland [2008-05-06 00:27:18 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I have reviewed it carefully, I like Your visual identity designs, and I think You just got some good clients which helps .. I personally try to build a good client base as well. It just takes time.

For Your site navigation, I recommend to not make any overlaps, or visual touches between the type and the black form at their backgroud. edges of that black graphical form are very sharp and they will likely make one take some time to recognize the word, and what he shall do with it.. make it smoother is my advice.

I like the 3 black icons at bottom right, which are BIG, and I guess bringing them smaller at left place in same line with contact, theme.. would balance it a bit.. cause to me they are bringing too much attention to the bottom right area.. It is right that bringing them in an empty place at bottom may not increase all that attention to it.. but it is true too that the contrast in size + the contrast in color and space against negative space are such 2 high values of contrast which may disturb the eye and give to them more attention than what they deserve.

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2008-05-12 15:25:27 +0000 UTC]

Greetings, and thank you once again for your opinions. Regarding my clients, I still look for good ones. Almost all of my clients are too small to make the work worth the effort and time, ha!

I have updated my site, having your words in mind. The black behind my navigation (which I originally took from my tshirt site (htto://dusk.dawnland.com) is gone, but I kept the vertical, bigger one to the left because I like the chaotic form, and since it's big, it's no real problem to read the word.

Regarding the 3 black icons. Yes - they were very big. I wanted to put them somewhere, but my solution wasn't very good. I followed your advice and put them in the same line and size as theme. And I moved the button contact to the other navigation too as it is where it belong. Will probably make a page with contactinformation etc later (right now the link only links to a [link]

And I added a short dawn intro (don't like long intros).

I like your Anti Global Warming Campaign by the way. Great concept and execution. So is your typographic work.

All for now, and thanks again!

/Daniel

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shawkash In reply to dawnland [2008-06-02 18:22:09 +0000 UTC]

You are doing great so far! I will excuse u to add to my friends. and i am glad u liked my stuff too

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2007-03-01 10:52:56 +0000 UTC]

Hi again. Made a new logo since, as you said, the one I had (heavy helvetica neue) did not get along with the design of my site.
[link]

Have had in mind to make a new one for quite some time, but your comment made me do it, ha!

Just wanted to tell you.

All for now

/Daniel

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shawkash In reply to dawnland [2007-03-02 17:30:41 +0000 UTC]

Hello mr.Daniel,
I have your message, and I would say I am glad that I am being any reason of help for some company like yours. As I would have here to thank you for being such gentleman with me a long the discussion

Ahmad

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2007-03-06 07:55:50 +0000 UTC]

Thanks again. And why shouldn't I be a gentleman when you helped me, ha!
All for now.
Nice to hear from you again.

/Daniel

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2006-12-14 14:44:28 +0000 UTC]

Hi, and thanks for the long and well formulated comment!

Regarding the size of the text, arial 11 pt is a bit small (and not very pretty), and my desire initially was to have a seriff font for the text. Used that on the first incarnation of the site which was designed for 1024 resolution, but when I realized that there still are people running 800x600 on rather small monitors I had to rethink, and use a "regular" web font (I don't like verdana, even thou its more adjusted to reading on the screen etc, so I chose arial).

Regarding the logotype - Well, its Helvetica Neue (which is a more good looking relative to arial), and even thou I respect your opinion I don't think that I will change it (the logo have had several fonts and looks since 99, but now I call it final. Perhaps it could need some kerning thou...)

And finally - thanks for the encouraging words "its a good site". Will stop my ranting now, ha!

/Daniel

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shawkash In reply to dawnland [2006-12-14 15:04:42 +0000 UTC]

sure it is a stylish site! i just like to give a good feedback for such one.

.and my desire initially was to have a seriff font for the text.

I see you use already Agaramond for buttons and the question would be why to not use it for text as well? I don't think that Agaramond - with my belive that it is one of the most prettiest serifs ever if not the most - can hold good mount of text on screens, normally those fonts which work for screens are not good for print and vice verca. I would here recommend gegorgia. It is just a suggestion.
For the logotype yes that make sense it is helvitca neu, the structure say it.. i just don't consider black forms of most helvitca alike fonts, and sometimes it is look similar on screen. But as you have to use it then there is no problem ofcours .. I am not sure why some logotypes prefer black fonts for their logos, it really doesn't reflect the fact that you have stylish designs. but it's my own opinion any way : )

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2006-12-15 14:32:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks again for the input and advice.

(and yes - adobe garamond is one of the most beautiful serifs, but with the amount of text on the "service" page it is not easy to control the outcome of it (since it is read from a database into flash). And agaramond is not very good in small size on screen either.)

But I did some quick testing with Georgia for the "service" text and it turned out very good, so I will see if I change it this weekend.
Will probably keep the non-anti-aliased arial text for the different projects thou. Time will tell.

Will give it some thought, regarding the black logo... Perhaps it should be more representative for the stylish design that are made. (All my other sketches were light, when I finally went back to the basic helvetica neue version (that has its origin in the Neverland logo (me and [link] years ago) but that's another story that I won't bore you with now, ha!)

Have a nice weekend!

/Daniel

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shawkash In reply to dawnland [2006-12-16 13:31:38 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome! Glad to talk with you.
FYI, Georgia works fine wit non-anti-aliased because it's hitting designed for screens as well

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dawnland In reply to shawkash [2006-12-22 21:19:08 +0000 UTC]

Yes. Very interesting to talk with you!
Changed the arial on the news-page to georgia and I think it looks alot better now. (but since I embedded the font, I could have used agaramond as well. will see if I will try it sometime)

Merry christmas!

/dew of dawnland

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