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DemberPhotos In reply to MWRoach [2014-10-06 23:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Haha, well thank you ~ it was a surprise to see who was commenting on my photo, I didn't expect that. I've always been fond of you, it's nice to see you around here too. = )

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MWRoach In reply to DemberPhotos [2014-10-08 02:32:37 +0000 UTC]

lol thank you Good to see you here too. I've been a member here for 9 years

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DemberPhotos In reply to MWRoach [2014-10-08 11:52:38 +0000 UTC]

Oh, it would seem I've been here for nearly 11, as of next month! I didn't even realize it until I checked my first account, wow.
Then again, I didn't notice it had been over seven years since I made this account to show off pictures of my animals, haha~

On another topic, don't you just love this gorgeous little pup? My first mid-content! ;u; When I picked her up, one of the first things I actually said was that her coloring reminded me SO much of your handsome boy Tokalon - she looks like a lower-content version of him when he was little, doesn't she?

They grow so fast, too; I have to get new pictures of her soon - she's already getting so much bigger, and her colors are beginning to change. Her eyes are turning bright gold already, and that cute little black muzzle (which makes everyone think "pure GSD" ahaha, pups are so hard to estimate content on) is getting lighter-colored hairs all through it so it's more a grizzled dark agouti color now.
Oh boy if you lived closer, what a pair they would make! : P

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MWRoach In reply to DemberPhotos [2014-10-12 02:18:21 +0000 UTC]

She does look like a lower content version of Tokalon! Guess that's why I was drawn to her lol People always asked if Tokalon was GSD or had GSD mixed in and I had to explain that he doesn't have any GSD in the lines whatsoever. I bet Faedra look even more gorgeous now, can't wait to see updated pics! Who is her breeder? 

haha, I agree, they'd make gorgeous pups. I have a long list of people who would love to mate their females from this year to Tokalon, among them is an extreme high content and a pure  

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DemberPhotos In reply to MWRoach [2014-10-12 04:56:37 +0000 UTC]

I wish I could say, but I've been asked not to! She is from a private breeder who, at least for now, wishes to remain anonymous. : P
All I can say is that her mom was around lower-mid and her dad was HC Timber Wolf. = ) You can expect new photos very, very soon!

And I'm not at all surprised about you needing to beat the ladies off of Tokalon with a stick, haha. He's a handsome boy! I haven't heard of any legit "pure" 100% wolves any more these days though so I'm curious, who has that one?

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MWRoach In reply to DemberPhotos [2014-10-20 16:52:47 +0000 UTC]

Ah, gotcha. I thought she might have come from RBE but then I remembered that Cove is a mid, not a high (I believe). I do think it's interesting that her HC father was actually fertile that time of year.

The gal who owns the pure is in Washington. Beautiful pup named Atka. I love her because she looks like a lighter version of my boy. 

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DemberPhotos In reply to MWRoach [2014-10-20 21:48:35 +0000 UTC]

Yep, Cove is upper-mid at about "70%", with both of his parents from Southern Breeze. = )

This girl is unrelated to him. Her father is in the lower-high range. And yes, Cove is fertile all through the year, as are some true HCs that I know of, even such as extreme high-contents like those from Wolves USA - some of the old beliefs are not accurate 100% of the time when it comes to wolfdogs.
Sort of like how high-contents "CAN'T" have blue eyes, or "CAN'T" be born pure white, or have pink noses. It's extremely rare and sometimes takes special selective breeding practices to achieve it, but it does happen. You might be surprised how many HCs are born a month or more out of season.

Atka sounds very familiar, but I've never known anyone who claims to have real pure wolves. I'm not sure how it could be verified either. That's interesting, I'll have to keep an eye out next time I recognize that name! c:

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DemberPhotos In reply to Themystichusky [2014-10-03 23:17:00 +0000 UTC]

What you should disagree with is irresponsible, unprepared people owning wolfdogs when they shouldn't. They are amazing animals, and they can make wonderful companions for people who are devoted enough to provide their needs and care requirements.

Shunning the breed and wishing they would "stop being bred" is no different than hating any other type of dog because of what ignorant people have done with them - pit bulls, rottweilers, dobermans, german shepherds...where do you draw the line?

Do you realize that the once-hated and feared but now popular and well-loved family pet German Shepherd was a wolfdog just 100 years ago?

She's around the "60% - 65%" range or so; not much over half. Even upper-mid and high content wolfdogs can live very happy, fulfilling lives with knowledgeable, responsible, educated people who take the time to do their research, take the necessary precautions and go about it the right way.

Because she is only a mid, she is happy to be indoors. She has older siblings from previous litters who do great in the house; better than many pure huskies and malamutes for that matter.
That means she would not be very happy being treated "more like a wolf", which would need to be locked almost exclusively in a large outdoor enclosure - she cries when I leave her out for a moment just to take care of a few chores around the house, so I can't imagine how sad and lonely she would be living like a zoo animal in a cage when she is a pet. Her pack is with the rest of our dogs, in the house with us.

Frankly I don't give a shit if you approve of my dogs or not. You are a random person on the internet and all you can do is make the pixels on my screen light up in different colors.

That said, please take a moment to educate yourself before making ignorance-driven comments on wolfdogs; these are a few good sites to start with:

wolfdogproject.com/

www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/wo…

Thank you.

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Themystichusky In reply to DemberPhotos [2014-10-04 00:11:15 +0000 UTC]

Lol I didn't say I disagreed with your dogs but I know that wolf dogs because of a mix of both can be and most likely are a very confused animal who has mixed instincts and could act on either which is why you should be prepared to treat it more like a wolf then dog, and when I say you I don't just mean you I mean anyone with a wolf/dog hybrid. I know all about them and I love GSD and pitts ect im not saying that clearly you got me wrong on that i'm just saying a lot of people get one and treat it exactly like a dog. And yes those people are also to blame but I feel sorry for a dog so confused like a wolf hybrid that's why I said they shouldn't be bred. You have wolves and you have dogs mix them together and its once confused animal case and point. I'm not going to sit here and have a debate with you about it I was just making sure you knew your stuff and weren't one of those people who are daft and just go getting one because omg I got a pet wolfie! And knew nothing on how to care for one.

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DemberPhotos In reply to Themystichusky [2014-10-04 07:45:33 +0000 UTC]

First and foremost, wolves and dogs are the same species - they are two subspecies of the same exact animal: Canis Lupus, and Canis Lupus Familiaris.

That is why wolfdogs are not true "hybrids" and why they are not born sterile like real hybrids are. Secondly, wolves have been naturally cross-breeding with domestic dogs for thousands of years - that is why there are black wolves in the wild; black coloration is a mutation that arose in dogs, who passed it back to their wild wolf ancestors.
Do you think those animals are "confused"? They seem to be doing just fine living their lives as nature intended, without human intervention - even though they might actually be about 0.5% dog!

Wolves and dogs have the same instincts - virtually every "wolf" trait can be found in completely pure dogs. Wolves differ from dogs in intensity, not behaviors. Dogs are, essentially, a "toned down" version of a wolf. I once heard a very accurate quote: "Wolves and dogs speak the same language, they just have different accents."
When you mix them, the intensity is determined by wolf content - a wolfdog with less wolf in it will act more like a dog; a wolfdog with more wolf in it will act more like a wolf. That is common sense. This one is half and half, so she will be right in the middle in terms of intensity; she will not act like a wild wolf unless she was locked out in a cage, never socialized or interacted with and left to become feral. Guess what? Any pure dog would do the same - any shy, skittish, fearful dog acts like a typical wolf; and any well-socialized wolf can act more like a dog.

I have already worked with wolfdogs of all content levels in rescue, and with good friends who raise them, and I have owned huskies, nordic breed mixes and low-content wolfdogs for over a decade. Going for a mid-content is the next logical step; it is usually inadvisable to jump straight to a higher-content, which I plan to take on later.

Wolfdogs have as much of a right to be bred as any other dog produced by man. Wolfdogs should not be bred or sold irresponsibly - as is the case with any other dog; because most any properly-raised wolfdog born from parents of good health and temperament will be much more stable than any dog who was not.

I implore you, take just five minutes to read through this page before making assumptions based on ignorance. There are so many myths and misconceptions about these animals that unless you actually do research of your own, you will not know the truth; just whatever society and so-called "wolf experts" have led you to believe. Just humor me and read it - please.
www.wolfdogproject.com/myths.h…

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